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Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:32 pm
  • With Suh/Donald likely trying to destroy Wilson this year there is a good chance we will need a back up qb to play at some point. Austin Davis is still available or we go after someone like Krapper?
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:41 pm
  • I think we'll go back to the late round or undrafted well to find another QB to develop, and we'll probably sign a veteran backup before camp like we did last year.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:00 pm
  • Maybe Manziel gets a chance??
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:03 pm
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:04 pm
  • Cyrus12 wrote:Maybe Manziel gets a chance??


    After the last 2-3 years of drama? No way in hell we sign a backup QB that's going to bring even an ounce of drama to the team, that includes Manziel or Kaepernick.

    Go get a late round QB that you think you can develop, and then go sign a cheap Davis type backup for 1M or less.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:08 pm
  • Kaep would immediately be the best backup in the league. I'm pulling for a signing.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:10 pm
  • The time is meow to start a Pats type plan. Ironically, I hear the Pats are interested in this one.

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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:10 pm
  • Davis will be back, you need to look at the developmental crop.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:11 pm
  • I'm happy if it is Davis I think the guy is better than he gets credit for.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:21 pm
  • IndyHawk wrote:I'm happy if it is Davis I think the guy is better than he gets credit for.

    :ditto: I could live with him. Thankfully, Russ has been super durable, but that's tough to count on year after year. The law of averages kicks in, and we can't count on Russ beating Favre's record. I'm pretty sure we'll have at least 3 QB in camp and maybe 4. Kind of a shame if we have to burn a pick on a backup QB.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:21 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:Davis will be back, you need to look at the developmental crop.


    This. ^^^^

    Also, what are the chances of this even mattering?
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:23 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:Davis will be back, you need to look at the developmental crop.


    This. ^^^^

    Also, what are the chances of this even mattering?

    Hopefully, not at all.

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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:24 pm
  • Why would we sign a QB who took our owner to court? CK7 is no longer an option. Also, you want him to face Sherm?
    The Cards have new QBs ... maybe we can get one of their former QB. I know they all stink ... but at least, they have some experience. Or we can even get Scott Tolzien ... or Derek Anderson, Geno Smith, the GB backup who will soon be released?
    There is plenty of options available ... The league is full of backups ... you hope never see the field. EVER ...
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:27 pm
  • sutz wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:Davis will be back, you need to look at the developmental crop.


    This. ^^^^

    Also, what are the chances of this even mattering?

    Hopefully, not at all.

    :pray:


    Well Google says 14.9% over 16 games. But our QB is going to be way under that "average" anyway.


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    Position Games Injuries/Game Snap % Avg Inj Length (G) Games Available of 16
    All 21493 4.1% 49% 3.1 14.2
    CB 2219 4.4% 54% 2.9 14.2
    DE 2117 3.9% 46% 3.0 14.3
    DT 1271 4.3% 43% 2.9 14.2
    FB 394 1.5% 21% 1.8 15.6
    LB 3331 4.3% 44% 3.0 14.2
    OL 3851 3.4% 62% 3.3 14.4
    QB 1137 2.5% 42% 3.1 14.9
    RB 1487 5.2% 31% 3.9 13.3
    S 1954 4.7% 53% 3.0 14.0
    TE 1351 4.9% 45% 2.6 14.2
    WR 2381 4.5% 50% 3.2 14.0

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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:34 pm
  • How about Matt Moore (Fish) or Sean Manion (Rams) ... or even E.J. Manuel ?
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:39 pm
  • Kyle L looked GREAT in the Senior Bowl.

    I would have no problem with at least that pickup.

    Austin Davis makes me pine for Rick Mirer. He is terrible.

    Worse than terrible, he uses a roster spot and so we have to cut someone that isn't terrible to keep him.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:51 pm
  • saroos wrote:Colin Kaepernick
    I am all for getting Kaepernick, let him backup Russ. They have a lot in common, just Wilson's more accurate, and more poise under pressure.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:54 pm
  • TwistedHusky wrote:Kyle L looked GREAT in the Senior Bowl.

    I would have no problem with at least that pickup.

    Austin Davis makes me pine for Rick Mirer. He is terrible.

    Worse than terrible, he uses a roster spot and so we have to cut someone that isn't terrible to keep him.

    Yeah that senior bowl is where I found out about him. They say he doesn't have an NFL arm and I think that's arguable, but basically every other trait is there.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:17 pm
  • How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:49 pm
  • vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?


    Such as?
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:52 pm
  • Chapow wrote:
    vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?


    Such as?


    Kaepernick! Hoping our ownership will grow a pair and sign him.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:00 pm
  • vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?

    Are you willing to trade up to get one of the first QBs or what is your plan on that? Russell is so good that it is unlikely that we will find someone who is better. So our best bet imo is to get someone in the later rounds and just hope luck strikes again and that if not he at least develops into a decent backup.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:03 pm
  • toffee wrote:
    Chapow wrote:
    vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?


    Such as?


    Kaepernick! Hoping our ownership will grow a pair and sign him.

    Why would the release of Boykin all of a sudden cause our front office to sign Kaep? As if Boykin was a lock as our backup so there was no point to sign a legit option? If Kaep wasn’t an option before the release of Boykin, the release of him is not going to suddenly change that. Isn’t Paul Allen one of the owners in the lawsuit brought on by Kaep? He will never be a Seahawk if that is the case.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:11 pm
  • Our Man in Chicago wrote:Kaep would immediately be the best backup in the league. I'm pulling for a signing.


    Did you just black out during the month of January and first week of February?

    Anyway our backup will be Kellen Clemens IMO.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:37 pm
  • Colin Kaepernick should be the back-up. We should hold off on drafting a QB. We need to be ready in case Russ goes down.

    RFA for the PS - Chris Streveler, South Dakota. I saw him play last year.

    Cheap alternative - I always though Geno Smith had something, just not sure what.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:09 pm
  • crosfam wrote:Colin Kaepernick should be the back-up. We should hold off on drafting a QB. We need to be ready in case Russ goes down.

    RFA for the PS - Chris Streveler, South Dakota. I saw him play last year.

    Cheap alternative - I always though Geno Smith had something, just not sure what.


    Russ is our team's single point of failure, kaepernick isn't as good as Russ, but he sure is a poor men's Russ.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:07 pm
  • pcbball12 wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    Chapow wrote:
    vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?


    Such as?


    Kaepernick! Hoping our ownership will grow a pair and sign him.

    Why would the release of Boykin all of a sudden cause our front office to sign Kaep? As if Boykin was a lock as our backup so there was no point to sign a legit option? If Kaep wasn’t an option before the release of Boykin, the release of him is not going to suddenly change that. Isn’t Paul Allen one of the owners in the lawsuit brought on by Kaep? He will never be a Seahawk if that is the case.


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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:19 pm
  • Kaepernick the most overrated QB in NFL history.

    -Stares down receivers.
    -Predetermines where he is throwing the ball pre-snap, thus missing wide open uncovered receivers.
    -Horrible pocket presence, has no feel from where the rush is coming.
    -Terrible footwork in the pocket, has no ability to slide and move to deliver the football while evading pressure.
    -Awkward arm motion which disallows him to throw with touch.
    -Despite mobility has low accuracy while throwing on the run, which goes back to his mechanics.
    -Showed no ability to get better, and work on his mechanics & footwork in multiple off-seasons.
    -Coaches have to gameplan extra hard for him to consistently get his 1st read open.
    -Entitled, thinks he is better than he really is, and it is everyone elses fault, lack of leadership.
    -$$$$$$ too much.
    -Brings off field baggage, and a media circus something you do not want from a backup QB.
    -Been out of the game for a while now, how much have his skills deteriorated?

    +When he takes off and runs he is pretty amazing, but really only as a runner.
    +When his first read is open he can laser it in there.
    +Does a good job of not throwing interceptions, despite all his flaws he doesn't throw it to the other team.



    Austin Davis worked with Schotty in the past. He is the backup currently. A prospect will be added from the upcoming rookie class to add competition.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:06 pm
  • vin.couve12 wrote:The time is meow to start a Pats type plan. Ironically, I hear the Pats are interested in this one.




    This is the guy I was going to mention. We'd be able to trade him for a day 1 pick in a few years.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:06 pm
  • I want Johnny "Football" Manziel!!!!
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:14 pm
  • Let's get J-money and sacrifice him to Suh and Donald.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:28 pm
  • Kaep would be great. Worst case, he sucks balls and we don't have to play him unless in a major emergency. Best case, he learns from Russ and the coaches, proves himself as a reliable QB again, and we can trade him off in a couple years for something/someone good.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:41 pm
  • I take the stance that I honesty don't care who the backup is.

    If Russ goes down the season would be over anyway. If it happened early on we'd be looking at a top 10 draft pick in 201 I'd imagine.
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Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:44 pm
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:01 am
  • I think it would be awesome to have Kap backup Russel Wilson. Same scrambling and good running quarterback.
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Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:18 am
  • Would anyone here genuinely entertain the idea of employing Mr Buttfumble? Other fan bases are already enjoying the 'Re-Tooling' or whatever it's been christened. This would make it open season, and rightly so.

    I'd rather see Kaepernick signed, given the choice of what's currently available. If Russ goes out (and yes, it would mean bigger things later) I'd want someone with some experience to steady the rest of the players in the huddle. He's got more experience than most, and he would at least be able to ride out an offense built around Wilson's skill set.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:23 am
  • Cyrus12 wrote:Maybe Manziel gets a chance??


    no.

    next....
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:57 am
  • pcbball12 wrote: Isn’t Paul Allen one of the owners in the lawsuit brought on by Kap? He will never be a Seahawk if that is the case.


    I don't think they will, but the Seahawks have every reason in the world to sign Kaepernick as a backup.

    (1) He fits the Hawks' scheme and what they're doing. You want your backup QB to be an inferior mirror of your starting QB, and that's exactly what Kap is to Wilson. He's mobile, can throw intermediate and deep both inside and outside the numbers, and he doesn't turn the ball over (he even has a lower career turnover rate than Wilson, and not turning the ball over is very necessary in the type of offense Carroll wants to run, and is one of Wilson's strengths).

    (2) People can nitpick Kaepernick's game all they want, but when doing so you have to remember that you are comparing him to other backup quarterbacks.. Yes, his game has holes, but most starting QB's games have holes, and every backup QB's game has holes.

    Simply put, if you want to say Kap sucks you have to be arguing that he's significantly worse than some of the best backups in the NFL: guys like Trevor Siemian, Colt McCoy, or Chad Henne. It's incredibly hard to make a case that he's not significantly better than these guys, and remember, they're regarded as some of the top backups in the NFL.

    Maybe you want to evoke Nick Foles, fine, I don't think Foles is better than him but if you want to evoke Foles your argument is then that Kaepernick would be the second best backup QB in the NFL instead of the first. :lol:

    (3) It is in all of the owners' best interests for Kaepernick to be on an NFL roster this year. To be honest as a collective I think the owners are too prideful, dumb, [and other things] to realize this, but the damage of the collusion case isn't just that it's possible Kaepernick might win (if he wins the NFL will have to give 15-30 million bucks or something, that's not really much for the NFL), the real damage is anything that leaks out from the depositions or the process of discovery. 15-30 million is a friggin bargain for the NFL in trade for not having to deal with the news cycles around this.

    Long story short, if someone signed Kap the collusion case likely gets dropped and goes away, which is what every NFL owner should want. If the Hawks brought in Kap he'd be doing his 31 other billionaire buddies a huge solid, and dramatically improving his depth at the QB spot in the process.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:02 am
  • Seriously? Have we unloaded enough drama and distraction that we can afford to bring in the soap opera that is Kaep? Some of you really advocate for that? Out of the options listed in this thread I would guess Sanchez because when in doubt Pete goes with his former players.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:23 am
  • Tbh, yes, I think the team can cope with it.

    They coped with a few years of Bennett taking his stands, players kneeling and Doug Baldwin seeking a different path to the same goal at the same time. They coped with Sherman's outspokenness and Marshawn's evasiveness in the face of the sports press. They coped with Percy Harvin punching out Golden Tate (or whichever story you believe), after which they won a Super Bowl. Pete brushes this stuff off and preaches to his players to do the same - and when they stop listening, as has been evidenced on many occasions, they're out.

    Minor point worth noting: Kaepernick may also prove to be a solid investment in the light of the Rams putting Suh next to Aaron Donald on their D line, given what each of those has done to Wilson on their own...
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:55 am
  • I can see both sides of it. Certainly it comes with some drama. But he's likely better than most QB's that are still available. Not that our opinions matter, but I'm cool with it either way.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:28 am
  • toffee wrote:
    Chapow wrote:
    vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?


    Such as?


    Kaepernick! Hoping our ownership will grow a pair and sign him.


    I don't want that clown within 5 miles of this team. Old, bad news; I don't care what he "brings to the table". Friggin cancer.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:32 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote: Certainly it comes with some drama.


    I think this is true obviously, but I also think that the type of drama Kap comes with isn't the type of drama that the Seahawks have been trying to shed.

    The drama Kap comes with purely about reporters wanting to talk to your backup QB, which no team wants. To be honest though, I'd bet money on Kap nipping this in the bud, and it basically being a non-story by the end of the offseason.

    My sense is that the drama the Seahawks have been trying to shed is of a different type: discord in the locker room, players feeling emboldened to chew out coaches on the sideline and second guess coaching decisions, players doing and saying crazy stuff off the field and to the media, and so on.

    Beyond having knelt Kap had a couple of those instances very early in his career, but really grew out of them in the past few years, and all of his teammates really liked him.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:41 am
  • How does it come with drama?

    More drama comes from the fact that he is unsigned, when he is clearly better than most backups.

    And considering how we like to use our QB, he is absolutely the best option for us.

    Finally, he destroys GB regularly. We need him just for that.

    Now, what he would cost is a different issue and maybe the salary demand does not match the option - but to dismiss it out of hand is weird. And this is Seattle, we are smarter, more well off, healthier and progressive if not more left of center than most of the country - as is much of the West Coast. So his brand of politics would hardly rub 80% of the fan base the wrong way.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:06 am
  • Like I said, I don't mind him being signed here. If he wants big $, nope. But if he's willing to come be backup for a decent price, it's worth it. He's a lot better than some of the crap backups. Including Davis and Boykin, it's not even close.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:31 am
  • Kaep would cause a QB controversy at some point mid season. Many players would rally behind him and when we struggle, they'll look to a stronger, more genuine personality regardless if it's warranted or not. RW kind of needs a kids glove team that can grow with him and he may have that now.

    Otherwise I'd be all for signing Kaep of we didn't draft a sleeper like Lauletta. Kaep could kneel, do the worm, cartwheels with pompoms, sacrifice a goat and make gyros, etc for all I care. The NFL asked for trouble when they took money like whores for the players to take part in a pregame ritual. Hell, sign Eric Reid while your at it after you draft his brother.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:40 am
  • if it's truly about competition, they will sign Kaep.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:47 am
  • I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to get Colin Kaepernick.

    He is a good fit with the Seahawks scheme, and a goof fit with the city of Seattle, at least compared to that of most other cities in America.

    The biggest issue with Kaep is whether he would accept backup money to play here. My guess is that he would at this point, given that no other team is likely to offer him squat because he is controversial. As we know, Pete encourages players to be themselves, and Pete can manage conflict far better than most coaches.

    Yes, some fans won't like it. Screw them. I want the Seahawks to field the best possible team and Kaep is the best backup QB on the market. By far. Most of the other names being floated make me want to puke.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:53 am
  • You dont sign a guy like kaep he would bring all the cameras and hes not the type to be content to be a backup.
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Re: Who will our back up be?
Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:53 am
  • toffee wrote:
    Chapow wrote:
    vigilantgrrl wrote:How about someone who can actually compete with and/or push Wilson?


    Such as?


    Kaepernick! Hoping our ownership will grow a pair and sign him.


    You guys must not have a very high opinion of Russell if you think one of the most inaccurate passers in the history of the league, who hasn't played in over a year can come into camp and challenge Russell.
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