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  • "“With stable leadership and ownership — and a similar kind of quarterback (Russell Wilson) already firmly in place as the starter — this is a comfortable, low-pressure situation for everyone involved. Should Wilson go down, Manziel is available to plug right into the scheme."

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    I hope not, our lockerroom doesn't need this.




    Mods, I couln't find another thread on this, but if there is one please accept my appolgies and delete this thread.
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  • Yeah, i think this is likely better for a different forum and title .
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  • We have no money so this makes sense.
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  • lukerguy wrote:Yeah, i think this is likely better for a different forum and title .


    I agree, I changed the title, thanks. Thought it could go here as it is Seahawks related.
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  • Who better as a leader and mentor for Manziel than Russ?

    Who better to emulate Wilson than Manziel, the kid who was suppose to be the next Russell Wilson but with a big time electric personality?

    It’s a low risk/moderate reward?

    With Manziel the talent is there, mentally he was still a teenager when he came into the NFL, let’s see if he’s matured because the potential is there for decent Wilsonesque backup in the least.

    If it fails, I’m sure Austin Davis will be on speed dial.

    Could be they like someone in the draft later on and a hungry Manziel throws in a more competitive factor to the mix.
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  • King Dog wrote:We have no money so this makes sense.


    I hope this doesn't happen, but you have faulty logic. They need a back up and he'll be cheap.
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  • I’d rather have an NFL caliber quarterback instead.
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  • Manziel is garbage. Please no.
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  • Good idea. Let's bring in another drug addict wife beater. Mr silver spoon should of went to the Ti Cats....
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  • The elimination of Bennett and Sherman was done to remove distractions and bringing in Mansfield and associated media circus that comes along with Johnny Football would replace one set of distractions with another without a gain of talent. So, I vote no. Besides that he needs to go somewhere and actually play football b/c it’s been 2 years since he last played.

    I beleve the team will find a suitable backup even if it is a player that a few here don’t think can play.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • But Colin Kaepernick should be welcomed here? The delusion is confusing sometimes.
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  • MO Hawk wrote:
    lukerguy wrote:Yeah, i think this is likely better for a different forum and title .


    I agree, I changed the title, thanks. Thought it could go here as it is Seahawks related.

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  • Carroll does reclamation projects, but he doesn't do stupid. Manziel's career has been hobbled by mental meltdowns. I seriously doubt there is anything to this speculation.
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  • Neither Manziel or Kaepernick works for me.

    Sanchez, or Klemens as steady and experienced players; Davis or another young player eliminated from his original team before the league really knew how capable they could be are the directions the team could take. Who are the backups that have played for Scotty recently?
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  • He would have fit in well when Bev was here. In college he was great at the "run around and make magic happen" offensive system.
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  • seahawkfreak wrote:But Colin Kaepernick should be welcomed here? The delusion is confusing sometimes.


    No he should not and won't...first off he would want a lot of cash...second his play has diminished to the point that he is not worth it...third he is suing the hawks owner. He's not worth the money or distraction.
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  • seahawkfreak wrote:But Colin Kaepernick should be welcomed here? The delusion is confusing sometimes.


    If you don't like Kaepernick's completion percentage, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's average yards per attempt, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's TD rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's INT rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's QB Rating or QBR, Manziel's is worse.
    If you like Manziel's running ability, Kaepernick's is better.
    If you think Kaepernick is a distraction, he kneeled during games, whereas Manziel has been arrested numerous times, has beaten up his girlfriend, has been in and out of rehab, has been suspended by the league, and in between getting arrested has been a general distraction to every team he has played for.

    I get that you don't want a backup QB to be a news item, but if Johnny Manziel gets a job before Kaepernick does, any complaints about backup QB and media fascination are instantly null and void.
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  • Pete and John said no women beaters.

    Not happening, regardless if one believes in second chances or not.

    They just got rid of another woman beater for crying out loud.
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  • What cracks me up is that someone throws out a name on an article or Twitter etc. People jump all over it, and act angry at Pete and John, as if they actually are considering something that a writer just throws out there to get clicks. :roll:
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  • zero chance this happens. ZERO.
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  • If you're okay with having Manziel here but not Kaepernick, Sherman, or Bennett I'm gonna look at you with extreme suspicion.

    If you want none of them here then at least you're consistent. Also, Manziel was never going to be the next Russ. He doesn't have Russ's intelligence or size. Part of Russell's success is that his hands are HUGE
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  • Seymour wrote:Pete and John said no women beaters.


    They just got rid of another woman beater for crying out loud.


    Bennett ?
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  • I literally do not care what someone does off the field.

    Hell, if Scott M came back and he had a needle literally sticking out of his arm - as long he drafted HOF players and All Pros enough, I would not have a problem with it at all.

    But Manziel was not good as an NFL QB. So yeah. no.
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  • A week ago I would have been a no way on Manziel. But I recently saw an interview with him, then did some reading. He kind of won me over a little bit.

    Seems he's been sober for awhile now, and is in shape. Physically and emotionally. I think he just wants to keep his head down and work.

    Will he stay that way if/when he makes a team and things get stressful? Don't know. But I wouldn't be that upset if they decide to give him a shot in training camp.
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  • Pete loves reclamation projects, so it makes sense Manziel would be on his radar to kick the tires on.

    But I don't really understand it from Manziel's side, why wouldn't he try to go start in the CFL first before resigning himself to holding a clipboard in the NFL?

    If I'm his agent, I'm telling him to go bust his ass in Canada if he thinks he can still play the game, not be a backup in the NFL.
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:A week ago I would have been a no way on Manziel. But I recently saw an interview with him, then did some reading. He kind of won me over a little bit.

    Seems he's been sober for awhile now, and is in shape. Physically and emotionally. I think he just wants to keep his head down and work.

    Will he stay that way if/when he makes a team and things get stressful? Don't know. But I wouldn't be that upset if they decide to give him a shot in training camp.

    That's fine and all but Twitter and sports news would erupt if he's given a shot anywhere before Kap and prove a huge talking point to be correct.
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  • The Breh wrote:
    Seymour wrote:Pete and John said no women beaters.


    They just got rid of another woman beater for crying out loud.


    Bennett ?
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    No.....at QB. Boykin!

    And prior to that TJack that threatened his ex with a gun.
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  • Seymour wrote:
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    Seymour wrote:Pete and John said no women beaters.


    They just got rid of another woman beater for crying out loud.


    Bennett ?
    :stirthepot:


    No.....at QB. Boykin!

    And prior to that TJack that threatened his ex with a gun.

    I'm completely aware of Boykin, and what they're trying to paint Bennett as now after manufacturing an incident.
    Some folks need to see the official sarcasm smiley, you however, I didn't assume to fall in that category.
    I figured :stirthepot: may have tipped you off tho.
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  • Is Manziel really even THAT notable anymore? He'd bring a little extra attention, but I don't think it would be a circus atmosphere.

    He seems to have humbled some, and I think he has an excellent skillset for this offense. I'd give him a shot.
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  • The Breh wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
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    Seymour wrote:Pete and John said no women beaters.


    They just got rid of another woman beater for crying out loud.


    Bennett ?
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    No.....at QB. Boykin!

    And prior to that TJack that threatened his ex with a gun.

    I'm completely aware of Boykin, and what they're trying to paint Bennett as now after manufacturing an incident.
    Some folks need to see the official sarcasm smiley, you however, I didn't assume to fall in that category.
    I figured :stirthepot: may have tipped you off tho.


    You did. And I got it at 99% certain. Others here could could read that and make their own assumptions though. I prefer to avoid that mess when possible. :2thumbs:
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  • What I don't get is why people will pull hard for someone like Johnny Football, but will not even consider RG3 as a possible backup? Weird to me. I get Kaep, he was the enemy / douche and stepped over the line by many's standards.
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  • No doubt, what the heck ever happened to RG3-13? He doesn't so much as get mentioned now. Injuries just killed his career, along w/some other stuff. Sounds like he wasn't the most coachable guy etc. But he clearly had some talent, especially as a rookie. Seems odd that no team is even giving him a look.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:No doubt, what the heck ever happened to RG3-13? He doesn't so much as get mentioned now. Injuries just killed his career, along w/some other stuff. Sounds like he wasn't the most coachable guy etc. But he clearly had some talent, especially as a rookie. Seems odd that no team is even giving him a look.


    Yep, dropped out of the conversations completely and for sometime now, yet he is an unsigned free agent also. As a backup, hell I'd give him a look see.
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  • mrt144 wrote:
    Pandion Haliaetus wrote:Who better as a leader and mentor for Manziel than Russ?

    Who better to emulate Wilson than Manziel, the kid who was suppose to be the next Russell Wilson but with a big time electric personality?

    It’s a low risk/moderate reward?

    With Manziel the talent is there, mentally he was still a teenager when he came into the NFL, let’s see if he’s matured because the potential is there for decent Wilsonesque backup in the least.

    If it fails, I’m sure Austin Davis will be on speed dial.

    Could be they like someone in the draft later on and a hungry Manziel throws in a more competitive factor to the mix.


    Mode edit. that charity headcase.


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  • Sorry, I am just done with rehabilitation projects for clowns and this particular one is curse inducing. Does this cat remind people of their screw up brothers?
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  • It's yet another article throwing a name out. Yet people get worked up. Awesome. Until he comes to town for a visit, with we have no idea if something would even happen, meh.
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  • I’m ok with Manziel in camp competing with Austin Davis or another worthy QB candidate. Make him earn a roster spot on the 53.


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  • Popeyejones wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:But Colin Kaepernick should be welcomed here? The delusion is confusing sometimes.


    If you don't like Kaepernick's completion percentage, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's average yards per attempt, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's TD rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's INT rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's QB Rating or QBR, Manziel's is worse.
    If you like Manziel's running ability, Kaepernick's is better.
    If you think Kaepernick is a distraction, he kneeled during games, whereas Manziel has been arrested numerous times, has beaten up his girlfriend, has been in and out of rehab, has been suspended by the league, and in between getting arrested has been a general distraction to every team he has played for.

    I get that you don't want a backup QB to be a news item, but if Johnny Manziel gets a job before Kaepernick does, any complaints about backup QB and media fascination are instantly null and void.


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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:It's yet another article throwing a name out. Yet people get worked up. Awesome.


    Yes, I'm pointing out in a caustic way that this kind of article and speculation is junk food for your intellect.
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:A week ago I would have been a no way on Manziel. But I recently saw an interview with him, then did some reading. He kind of won me over a little bit.

    Seems he's been sober for awhile now, and is in shape. Physically and emotionally. I think he just wants to keep his head down and work.

    Will he stay that way if/when he makes a team and things get stressful? Don't know. But I wouldn't be that upset if they decide to give him a shot in training camp.



    But to some extent that’s kind of the point. As human beings we kind of see the good or bad in others depending on our personal point of view

    To some people Manziel May deserve another shot. Despite being a perpetual drunk and a woman beater. To others not so much

    To some people Kaepernick deserves another shot because at worse he had an unpopular political opinion (depending on who you ask) and no domestic abuse/drugs/alcoholism. To others, he crossed a line

    To some, RG3 doesn’t deserve another chance because he sucks but then again, so do many backup Qbs


    I’ve always felt we deserved a solid backup QB. We’ve rarely ever had one. Manziel sucks though, and if he’s going to be taken back I don’t blame some for crying BS. From an objective standpoint, comparisons aside....Russell would be a GREAT role model for Manziel. And I believe in second chances
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  • Pete used to stand up for Manziel quite often prior to that draft. Then the week prior to the browns hawks game, he talked him up a lot as well. He played a good game verse us too. But honestly, who cares?
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  • Our Man in Chicago wrote:
    Popeyejones wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:But Colin Kaepernick should be welcomed here? The delusion is confusing sometimes.


    If you don't like Kaepernick's completion percentage, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's average yards per attempt, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's TD rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's INT rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's QB Rating or QBR, Manziel's is worse.
    If you like Manziel's running ability, Kaepernick's is better.
    If you think Kaepernick is a distraction, he kneeled during games, whereas Manziel has been arrested numerous times, has beaten up his girlfriend, has been in and out of rehab, has been suspended by the league, and in between getting arrested has been a general distraction to every team he has played for.

    I get that you don't want a backup QB to be a news item, but if Johnny Manziel gets a job before Kaepernick does, any complaints about backup QB and media fascination are instantly null and void.


    Yes.


    For the record, I don't want either one of these tools here.
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  • mrt144 wrote:Sorry, I am just done with rehabilitation projects for clowns and this particular one is curse inducing. Does this cat remind people of their screw up brothers?


    That doesn’t give you a free pass on the rules.
    Ball is in your court.
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  • No.

    There are QB prospects that will be selected day 3 of the draft that have far brighter futures in the NFL than Manziel.

    The team would also have 4 yrs of team control if they select one of these prospects, while Manziel would just be a rental. A distracting rental at that.

    Prospects I like.

    Kyle Lauletta in the 4th rd.
    Logan Woodside in the 5th rd.
    Quinton Flowers in the 7th rd / UDFA
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:No doubt, what the heck ever happened to RG3-13? He doesn't so much as get mentioned now. Injuries just killed his career, along w/some other stuff. Sounds like he wasn't the most coachable guy etc. But he clearly had some talent, especially as a rookie. Seems odd that no team is even giving him a look.


    LOL....yep, nobody talking about him, yet he is the first of "this group" to sign. Ravens just gave him a 1 year today. Clearly this article is more solid proof that the subject speculation is based on what gets more clicks.
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  • I was rollin when I saw it on the "breaking news" line yesterday. Funny, the day after we were talking about it on here. Shoot, why not? I'm sure they got him on the very cheap.....
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  • Popeyejones wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:But Colin Kaepernick should be welcomed here? The delusion is confusing sometimes.


    If you don't like Kaepernick's completion percentage, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's average yards per attempt, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's TD rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's INT rate, Manziel's is worse.
    If you don't like Kaepernick's QB Rating or QBR, Manziel's is worse.
    If you like Manziel's running ability, Kaepernick's is better.
    If you think Kaepernick is a distraction, he kneeled during games, whereas Manziel has been arrested numerous times, has beaten up his girlfriend, has been in and out of rehab, has been suspended by the league, and in between getting arrested has been a general distraction to every team he has played for.

    I get that you don't want a backup QB to be a news item, but if Johnny Manziel gets a job before Kaepernick does, any complaints about backup QB and media fascination are instantly null and void.


    Hardly a fair comparison. One played for the Browns while the other played on talented 49er clubs for the majority of his career.
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  • Yeah, the teams that Klapperslack had on the field were much much better than anything Cleveland has thrown out there.
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