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  • MrThortan wrote: What were the chances of this guy being drafted in the 5th by any other team?


    110%
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  • hawk45 wrote:Just seems weird that this board is all about what belichick would do when talking about being okay with a second for Earl but still likes this pick.

    If we hit on a bunch of low round picks then I won't care about this sort of thing but it sure doesn't seem like a belichick move.


    Gostkowski was a 4th round pick.

    When you need a kicker or punter and an excellent one is there to be had.. you get them.

    Dickson is seriously one of the best punter prospects of all-time. That’s no exaggeration. He changed games for Texas on his own.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    MrThortan wrote: What were the chances of this guy being drafted in the 5th by any other team?


    110%


    Lol yeah that made me look the fool didn't it. Turned out 3 punters and a kicker. JS/PC have a crystal ball
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  • As an old timer, I remember a guy named....well Ray Guy. Raiders drafted him in the 1st round. Yes, look it up.

    Not sure how many games he won for the Raiders over the years, but it was a lot. He has awards named after him. That was before we had Thunderfoot in the Dome. Guy could get 10 yards or more of field position everytime they swapped punts on 3 and outs.

    Not saying Dickson is a pro-bowler or anything, but just last year we tried to go cheap on the kicking game and the results weren't good. ;)

    Tough times, though. Jon Ryan was just getting his endorsement career started. :)
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  • Chapow wrote:
    Grahamhawker wrote:You want to pick at the head of the run, not at the end. P&J pulled it off with P and RB.


    And yet some people can't do anything except whine about value and supposed reaches even though the more information that comes out, the more clear it becomes that Penny was not a reach. Anyone that threw a tantrum proclaiming Penny would have easily been available in the 3rd round has proven that they have no idea what they are talking about.



    We got arguably the best RB right before all the good RB's went off the board.

    We got the undisputed best punter, right before the other teams went crazy on punters and took them all of the board.

    That's GREAT drafting.

    These people complaining, man, it's completely out there, what's being said - utter nonsense... I think maybe the state of Washington ought to reconsider it's outlook on weed.
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  • The_Z_Man wrote:We got arguably the best RB right before all the good RB's went off the board.

    We got the undisputed best punter, right before the other teams went crazy on punters and took them all of the board.

    That's GREAT drafting.

    These people complaining, man, it's completely out there, what's being said - utter nonsense... I think maybe the state of Washington ought to reconsider it's outlook on weed.


    Agreed, on all counts, Z_Man.
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  • Pete Carroll mentioned Micheal Dickson's Rugby background. Mentioned Rugby background in relation to unusual/unique spin he can put on the ball. That's something intriguing to remember and look forward to seeing. Rugby influences seem to resurface from time to time. Looking forward to seeing him punt.
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  • The_Z_Man wrote:We got arguably the best RB right before all the good RB's went off the board.

    We got the undisputed best punter, right before the other teams went crazy on punters and took them all of the board.

    That's GREAT drafting.

    These people complaining, man, it's completely out there, what's being said - utter nonsense... I think maybe the state of Washington ought to reconsider it's outlook on weed.


    I think, perchance, they need MORE of the local crop...too much stress. :D
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:06 pm
  • Great to hear that he is from my old High School here in the Sutherland Shire, Sydney
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:09 pm
  • MrThortan wrote:Much like the running back situation, there was a run on punters after the Seahawks picked Dickson in the 5th. Vikings picked a kicker at 30, then Green Bay and the Raiders picked punters at 35, 36. Pretty unanimous we got the best one. JS working that crystal ball.


    Not to mention Steelers taking an FB also in that 5th.

    That’s 4 other low-snap specialists. Steelers’ and Packers’ FOs are pretty established and generally great at drafting. Vikings’ and Raiders’ FOs have seem to have been rising the last 2-3 years getting quality prospects that helped fuel play-off runs.

    Those teams don’t seem like franchises that don’t know what they’re doing and wasting draft ammo ( I mean, other than the Raiders giving Gruden that contract).

    It’s not like the rest of the draft was all that great, there were some pretty lauded prospects still on the board and many of them didn’t end up getting picked. That’s the draft. Teams are competing for football players, teams have to react to what they are feeling, to what they’re hearing, and to what they’re seeing down to the ticking seconds or they might miss out.

    It’s also not that uncommon for the best punters, kickers, or even FBs to generally get picked in R5, sometimes R4 (I don’t think the Patriots regret drafting Gostkowski with a 4th Round pick like a decade ago, IIRC).

    Using 1 of 4 5th Round picks on a possibly great Punter is not as asinine as trading up in the 2nd Round for a possibly great K like the bucs did a couple years ago.

    I don’t think it’s a wasted pick, not if the guy can be great because he might be a staple for 10-12 years when it’s all said and done.

    This is the NFL... there’s a very slim chance that a rare 2nd or 3rd Rounder might not make a roster but typically a lot of those 4th and 5th round picks won’t ever see the field.

    So yeah again getting a possibly great P for a 5th Round pick isn’t horrible value especially if he sticks around for 8+ years.

    I will say the temperament here is a little more understanding of the pick than some of the reactions I’ve seen elsewhere.
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Sat Apr 28, 2018 10:22 pm
  • Also to recycle a joke.

    While grabbing a bunch of Johnsons (Tom, Marcus, Dontae) to replace their departed Dicks (Kris, Sherm, Paul, Sheldon, Bennett), Seahawks also added two sons of a Dick (Ed and now Mike) to their team.











    That joke was so funny you probably phallus down and now can’t get up.
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  • Can he hold place kicks?
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  • Seems like an awesome pick, even with Tim Settle still on the board.
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  • Field position is critical in the NFL.

    Seahawks now have a prospect with the chance to be one of the best young punters in the league, pinning offenses back near their own goal line.

    They have a future HOFer in K Sebastian Janikowski.

    And they have added a very big/fast kick returner in first rounder Rashaad Penny with seven career kickoff return TDs to pair with former All-Pro returner Tyler Lockett, who will be a year removed from leg surgery and should be much more explosive this coming season.

    Shaquem Griffin's speed and play making will be felt on the coverage units.

    Very excited about how special teams are shaping up.
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  • It's not a waste when Ryan has not been very good for couple of years now.
    His time in Seattle is done and it's time to bring in this kid who will be here
    for the next 4-5 seasons.
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Michael Dickson Video
Sun Apr 29, 2018 4:57 am
  • Here's a great video about MIchael Dickson. He's a beast of a punter!!!! I've been begging for Rugby kickers for years, Aussie rules football is a close second. Heck yeah. Stoked about this pick.


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Re: Michael Dickson Video
Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:18 am
  • Thanks for posting! Makes me happy we didn't sign Marquette King.
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Re: Michael Dickson Video
Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:36 am
  • Great video. Kudos to his stepfather for putting him in a position to succeed, encouraging him, loving him. So, so great.
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  • hawknation2018 wrote:


    Kyle Basler from WSU was named MVP of the 2003 Holiday Bowl against Texas, so there's been at least a few.
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  • fenderbender123 wrote:
    hawknation2018 wrote:


    Kyle Basler from WSU was named MVP of the 2003 Holiday Bowl against Texas, so there's been at least a few.


    Stupid twitter.
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Re: Michael Dickson Video
Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:17 pm
  • What a great father son story. Thanks for posting the video. :2thumbs:
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  • I'm excited as hell for this pick. Between Penny returning kicks, Dickson punting, and Griffin in coverage, we've really bolstered out special teams. Winning the field position battle makes work easier for both sides of the ball. This could be a huge improvement for us this year that no one's talking about.
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  • Dickson will be busy, that's for sure.
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  • Coolest thing about this pick is if he remains as good as he's been, he got another hall of famer in 5th round
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  • WindCityHawk wrote:Nobody think you need a good punter until you really need one. I love this pick. I love this draft.


    Or nobody thinks you need one until they watched our 1st half offense. :mrgreen: I think this should be a solid pick though.
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  • TransGenderHawkFan wrote:Insufferable


    What is insufferable?
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:35 am
  • I love this pick even though I'm a huge Jon Ryan fan and hate seeing him go. We got the best punter in the NCAA. His punting has not been great and it was time to save some money. I ended up loving this draft. I was skeptical about Penny initially but very happy now and want Griffin very badly. My only disappointment was not getting Hercules Mata Afa!
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:58 am
  • We got considerably cheaper, considerably better and considerably younger at the most undervalued position in football.

    I bloody love this selection.
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  • Not only a great pick, but soon after a couple more punters were taken. Saves a couple mil on the cap as well.
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Re: Michael Dickson Video
Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:24 am
  • Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Here's a great video about MIchael Dickson. He's a beast of a punter!!!! I've been begging for Rugby kickers for years, Aussie rules football is a close second. Heck yeah. Stoked about this pick.




    Thanks for the vid. But I don’t see any rugby background in it. Only see him playing Aussie rules football
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  • Being someone who grew up in Sask and watched Jon Ryan play since he was punter / placekicker / receiver in college I feel like a traitor for saying the punting game was not good last year. Add age and cap money and this move makes sense. Sorry Jon. (you're financially set. End your football career in your hometown!)
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  • UK_Seahawk wrote:Can he hold place kicks?


    Excellent question. Ryan was great at getting the ball down with laces out on kicks.

    It may sound silly, but with the game on the line, never underestimate the importance of the holder.
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  • When I see what Dickson can do, I get reminded of that 2009 Chargers-Colts playoff game where Mike Scifres just went completely insane. I can't remember a punter balling out so much in one game. It'd be great to have that kind of advantage.
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  • original poster wrote:We got considerably cheaper, considerably better and considerably younger at the most undervalued position in football.

    I bloody love this selection.


    Yeah, I feel like this is some of that fifth round magic re-emerging. Watching some of this highlights, this is the first time I got the sense that a punter was "aiming" at one of his teammates running downfield, versus just booting it in a general direction and hoping for a good bounce. This guy can be a field position demon who's going to frustrate other teams.

    One of my football pet peeves is the talking heads consistently and incessantly making fun of kickers. Maybe it's not a physically taxing position, but it's a mentally taxing one that frequently decides games that your team spent the whole week preparing for and 60 minutes giving every last ounce of effort in.
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  • Well, the kicking game is extremely important. Not only can a kicker lose it for you (cough cough Walsh cough cough) but a great punter flat out flips the field. Field position is huge in the outcome of many games.
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  • I need to see him kick against NFL speed, he has a unique drop and curious if that is going to be slower and easier to block.
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  • He's been called the best punter since Ray Guy, shoot if he's 80 percent of what Ray Guy was we are in good hands.
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Re: Michael Dickson Video
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:46 am
  • AlciG wrote:
    Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Here's a great video about MIchael Dickson. He's a beast of a punter!!!! I've been begging for Rugby kickers for years, Aussie rules football is a close second. Heck yeah. Stoked about this pick.




    Thanks for the vid. But I don’t see any rugby background in it. Only see him playing Aussie rules football


    That’s what I said. Aussie Rules is a close second.
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:17 am
  • I like the pick, but I'm going to miss this crazy guy. :|

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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:13 am
  • Not to derail, but watching his punting at Texas, a #29 is downfield on every kick! Can we get that guy next year? A speedy Texas DB that wears 29 and is all over punt returners? I'll take it :)

    Josh Thompson Superfast 6'0" DB at 200# to go with our punter. Yes please :2thumbs:

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/pl ... h-thompson

    I'm glad Pete is finally recognizing the importance of the kicking game. I"m sure Brian Schneider is too :179417:
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:57 am
  • chris98251 wrote:I need to see him kick against NFL speed, he has a unique drop and curious if that is going to be slower and easier to block.


    I thought i read a scouting report on Sat that said he was quick at getting rid of the ball. Regarding another post, I thought I read he can hold too.
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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:01 pm


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Re: #PICK 149 MICHEAL DICKSON PUNTER TEXAS
Sun May 06, 2018 12:53 am
  • He blasted an 80 yard punt in mini-camp yesterday. Can't wait to watch in preseason.
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  • I don’t know if he ever held for place kicks at UT. I know he wasn’t the primary holder going into last season. That was Trey Holtz.

    If McGough makes the 53, I assume he will get the nod. He held in college. I would rather trust someone with at least some experience.
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  • The_Z_Man wrote:
    Chapow wrote:
    Grahamhawker wrote:You want to pick at the head of the run, not at the end. P&J pulled it off with P and RB.


    And yet some people can't do anything except whine about value and supposed reaches even though the more information that comes out, the more clear it becomes that Penny was not a reach. Anyone that threw a tantrum proclaiming Penny would have easily been available in the 3rd round has proven that they have no idea what they are talking about.



    We got arguably the best RB right before all the good RB's went off the board.

    We got the undisputed best punter, right before the other teams went crazy on punters and took them all of the board.

    That's GREAT drafting.

    These people complaining, man, it's completely out there, what's being said - utter nonsense... I think maybe the state of Washington ought to reconsider it's outlook on weed.


    We also got the top #1 blocking TE in the entire draft. No complaints from me here.
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  • Some of you are upset that we drafted a punter. I’m upset we didn’t also get a great place kicker! This guy will be a weapon for us especially if Pete continues to hold the offense back.
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  • Dickson is a weapon and he is ours!
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  • I'd rather not have Dickson holding if McGough makes the roster and can do the job. Having a QB as a holder provides one more look that opposing special teams must be ready for.

    Dickson can focus on improving or maintaining his already talented punting abilities.
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