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Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:20 am

Per Shefter and Marshall!!!

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:24 am

I like it. Probably low $ w/incentives. He's pretty damn good in the red zone. Vet presence, IF he doesn't whine and moan, could be a nice addition. If he doesn't buy in, PC will send him packin.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:24 am

I'm okay with it. Knows the system.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:25 am

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjXuwg0B5Lm ... =bmarshall

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:25 am

Interesting.............

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:26 am

Worth a shot, low risk

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:28 am

This moves my needle from 1/4 to 5/32.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:29 am

I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not thrilled by this. We have been burned too many times by free agent receivers in the past.

I do hope I'm proven wrong though.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:30 am

Well, we needed another receiver to compete with Darboh and Brown. Marshall gives them more physicality, red zone potential, and veteran savvy. This is a good thing if he's healthy.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:31 am

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:31 am

Max value of $2million with incentives. One year deal

Will be interesting to see with breakdown but guessing more like $1million base salary and playing and result incentives

Totally fine with that

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:31 am

Give the guy a chance. A MAX of 2 mil w/incentives.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:32 am

OkieHawk wrote:I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not thrilled by this. We have been burned too many times by free agent receivers in the past.

I do hope I'm proven wrong though.

Contracts in the $2million area are totally fine to me. Just don't see it moving the needle on "getting burned"

$8million for unknowns / former good players worries me a whole lot more

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:34 am

We’re becoming UCF West! Love it!!!

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:35 am

He's had a hell of a career for a 4th rounder. He can be a big strong body in the red zone too.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:36 am

KitsapGuy wrote:

Low risk, too. Happy with the added competition, which was needed at WR.

If Marshall is healthy . . .
Baldwin (X/Y)
Lockett (X/Y/Z)
Marshall (Z)
Brown (X/Z)
Darboh (Z)
Potential 6th WR (Johnson, Moore, Stringfellow, McEvoy, Grayson, Reynolds, or Scott)

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:40 am

mikeak wrote:
Contracts in the $2million area are totally fine to me. Just don't see it moving the needle on "getting burned"

$8million for unknowns / former good players worries me a whole lot more

Good point, and I had commented before knowing the contact details.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:40 am

hawknation2018 wrote:
KitsapGuy wrote:

Low risk, too. Happy with the added competition, which was needed at WR.

If Marshall is healthy . . .
Baldwin (X/Y)
Lockett (X/Y/Z)
Marshall (Z)
Brown (X/Z)
Darboh (Z)
Potential 6th WR (Moore, Stringfellow, McEvoy, Grayson, Reynolds, or Scott)

That actually doesn’t look bad on paper.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:41 am

...and the crowd goes mild.

In all seriousness, not thrilled but another potentially decent body in the mix. As long as his name value doesn't impede the progress of the likes of Darboh etc I'm fine with it.

Glad it's not Bryant also.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:42 am

I like this signing. Guy still knows how to use his size to box out in the red zone. No damage done if he doesn't work out.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:42 am

suppaball wrote:
hawknation2018 wrote:
KitsapGuy wrote:

Low risk, too. Happy with the added competition, which was needed at WR.

If Marshall is healthy . . .
Baldwin (X/Y)
Lockett (X/Y/Z)
Marshall (Z)
Brown (X/Z)
Darboh (Z)
Potential 6th WR (Moore, Stringfellow, McEvoy, Grayson, Reynolds, or Scott)

That actually doesn’t look bad on paper.

I forgot about Marcus Johnson, who they traded a 7th round pick for in the Michael Bennett trade. Though I'm not confident he makes the roster.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:44 am

KitsapGuy wrote:

Was waiting to hear the contract numbers before commenting. I think it's definitely a fair deal for both parties. It allows us to bring him in and evaluate him in our system without doing too much damage to our cap if he doesn't work out, while giving him the opportunity to prove himself worthy of more money if he were to have a good year again.

Odds are more likely that things will work out somewhere in the middle of those two scenarios, but I like the potential vs. the cost of this deal.
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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:44 am

hawknation2018 wrote:
suppaball wrote:
hawknation2018 wrote:
KitsapGuy wrote:

Low risk, too. Happy with the added competition, which was needed at WR.

If Marshall is healthy . . .
Baldwin (X/Y)
Lockett (X/Y/Z)
Marshall (Z)
Brown (X/Z)
Darboh (Z)
Potential 6th WR (Moore, Stringfellow, McEvoy, Grayson, Reynolds, or Scott)

That actually doesn’t look bad on paper.

I forgot about Marcus Johnson, who they traded a 7th round pick for in the Michael Bennett trade. Though I'm not confident he makes the roster.

That’s right I forgot about him as well. He’s a speedy guy if memory serves.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:48 am

Marshall didn't do much last season with the Giants due to a high ankle sprain. Reportedly healthy now.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjXuKUoBqrc ... =bmarshall

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:48 am

To be honest, I'm not expecting much from Marshall and I won't be surprised if he doesn't make the final roster. That being said, for $2 mil max if he meets incentives, it's worth a shot.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:49 am

Fair deal to give to a vet like Marshall. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't make the roster. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being our #1 or #2 receiver. Kinda crazy to think he signed a 2 year/$12MM contract just a year ago with NYG and now he's signing a 1 year that maxes out at $2MM.

Let's hope that ankle of his is right and he can be a contributor.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:52 am

59 catches for 788 yards (13.4ypc) and 3 TDs in 2016 with the horrible Jets.
109 catches for 1,502 yards (13.8 ypc) and 14 TDs in 2015 with the horrible Jets.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:52 am

I would have rather paid a little more for Maclin or Bryant if we're going to add a veteran WR.

But maybe this is good for both sides. Marshall is cheap and knows he has to behave and perform if he wants to make any more money playing football.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:52 am

For a max of $2m? Hell yes.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:56 am

Hopefully he is coming to ball out and not to convalesce? Maybe this signing will help motivate the younger kids like Darboh?

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 10:56 am

And if one of the young guys beat him out, so be it. Let them all figure it out on the field. If he earns a spot, even better because it's not going to just be handed to him. Not on this team.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:01 am

Old, yes.

But still a big target with good hands that can get separation. Not seeing any down side to this.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:02 am

OkieHawk wrote:I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not thrilled by this. We have been burned too many times by free agent receivers in the past.

I do hope I'm proven wrong though.

Did we lose anything? Whats the problem? He provides leadership, experience, size and I think he still has a couple of good years left.

I just don't see any issue to this signing.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:02 am

Rocket wrote:For a max of $2m? Hell yes.

That is about what we saved by not signing Hauschka last year. That $2M cost us a bunch of jobs and blowing up key members of the team.

Thank you again Blair Walsh.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:03 am

uncle fester wrote:Old, yes.

But still a big target with good hands that can get separation. Not seeing any down side to this.

I agree. Even if they use Marshall solely in short yardage and red zone, he is worth $2 million if healthy. His size, physicality, jump balls, blocking, clutch plays, experience are all things the WR corps was missing. Question marks: age, injuries, dropped balls (10% in his career).

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:10 am

hawknation2018 wrote:59 catches for 788 yards (13.4ypc) and 3 TDs in 2016 with the horrible Jets.
109 catches for 1,502 yards (13.8 ypc) and 14 TDs in 2015 with the horrible Jets.

I think anything like those 2015 numbers are in his rear view mirror for good. I'd be pleasantly surprised if we saw something in the neighborhood of those 2016 numbers, but he's another injury and another year older than when he put up those numbers. But again, for the contract the Seahawks gave him, it's worth a shot.

FYI, the Jets actually had a pretty good passing offense in 2015. Marshall had a monster year and Eric Decker also had 80 catches for 1000+ yards and 12 TDs.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:12 am

Chapow wrote:
hawknation2018 wrote:59 catches for 788 yards (13.4ypc) and 3 TDs in 2016 with the horrible Jets.
109 catches for 1,502 yards (13.8 ypc) and 14 TDs in 2015 with the horrible Jets.

I think anything like those 2015 numbers are in his rear view mirror for good. I'd be pleasantly surprised if we saw something in the neighborhood of those 2016 numbers, but he's another injury and another year older than when he put up those numbers. But again, for the contract the Seahawks gave him, it's worth a shot.

FYI, the Jets actually had a pretty good passing offense in 2015. Marshall had a monster year and Eric Decker also had 80 catches for 1000+ yards and 12 TDs.

Only 66 passes thrown to Marshall in 2016 were labelled "catchable." He was also the 11th ranked run blocker among WRs.

If he ends up with 500+ yards and/or 5+ TDs, this was a steal.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:15 am

Great signing. Marshall keeps himself in great shape and we're getting him for next to nothing. He's not making enough money for our coaches to feel compelled to keep the younger guys on the sidelines.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:19 am

Hyper-competitive/temperamental/nasty - Check (will challenge other receivers and our qb)

+ Run Blocking - Check: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2224556-chicago-bears-wide-receiver-brandon-marshall-is-an-elite-run-blocker

Red Zone target/toughness/hands/body position/saviness - Check

He'll be limited but help with specific packages, and will raise the competition bar that much more

pretty low risk, shrewd

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:22 am

This is an interesting addition which may or may not work out. Bob Condotta believes from what he is hearing that Marshall's contract allows him to be cut after camp with little or no cost to the team if he proves unable to earn a spot on the team.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:24 am

hawknation2018 wrote:

Like to see more of that against Sherman this year....

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:30 am

Bobblehead wrote:
OkieHawk wrote:I'm probably in the minority, but I'm not thrilled by this. We have been burned too many times by free agent receivers in the past.

I do hope I'm proven wrong though.

Did we lose anything? Whats the problem? He provides leadership, experience, size and I think he still has a couple of good years left.

I just don't see any issue to this signing.

I also amended my statement a bit later on. I commented before seeing the contract details, which was my bad. In my OP, I did also state that I would be in the minority, and that I hoped I was proven wrong, not sure why that was kind of glossed over...

Regardless, we'll see in the coming months how this plays out.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:48 am

hawknation2018 wrote:If he ends up with 500+ yards and/or 5+ TDs, this was a steal.

That seems a lot more like somewhere in the range of decent to good value than a steal to me.

jammerhawk wrote:This is an interesting addition which may or may not work out. Bob Condotta believes from what he is hearing that Marshall's contract allows him to be cut after camp with little or no cost to the team if he proves unable to earn a spot on the team.

I would certainly think that would be expected in a contract like this.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:49 am

The Knighthawks has a nice ring to it!

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:58 am

I'm not too sure I like this move. I was hoping to see Darboh and Moore step up, maybe they aren't ready too. That is disappointing.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 11:59 am

i'm totally okay with this because several of our younger guys like Darboh, Moore, Jaron Brown and Marcus Johnson should learn from watching Marshall use his body to protect the ball.

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Re: Brandon Marshall signing

Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 pm

Love it. Welcome Brandon!
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