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Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:28 pm


  • Disrespectful.
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  • Legitimate DMVP candidates go higher than that. Disrespectful indeed.
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  • It's so frustrating. He should've been #15 or better this year IMO. This tells me he will never win DPOY. He'd have to have like 5 picks, 5 sacks, 150 tackles, etc. to have a shot which is so unfair
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  • Yeah, well, we need to win more games if we want to place higher on that list. :229031_shrug:

    I'm not arguing that Bobby doesn't have the talent, but it's just reality that non-playoff teams have trouble making all-star lists.
    Talent can get you to the playoffs.
    It takes character to win when you get there.

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  • There's not a single linebacker that is better. I literally wouldnt take any other LB. Kuechly? Pah, he's one hit away from counting to potato.
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  • Meh, it's just a list, means nothing really. Plus, 21 is pretty damn good. His peers have mad respect for him.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:04 am
  • This year is going to be a big one for Bwagz... This is the first year our defense isn't supposed to be special. If he has a monster year and leads this defense well they can't ignore him. Question is, can he? I'm sure he'll get his no matter what, but can he successfuly lead to victory a team defense with little to no "stars" on it?

    I think he can but time will tell.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 20188
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:10 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Meh, it's just a list, means nothing really. Plus, 21 is pretty damn good. His peers have mad respect for him.


    Russ disagrees!! He says it means a lot to the players. Are you trolling Russ now?? :twisted: :twisted: :stirthepot:

    Seriously though. Wags deserves higher, but little by little he is getting the attention he deserves. He was just overshadowed by other loudmouth teammates IMO.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:01 am
  • Yeah, but it's just a list. 21 is still mad respect. Can't take any list serious that has Goff that high.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:58 pm
  • I guess you're right Soulfish, #21 is really good. I wonder how high Russ will be.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:42 am
  • Very disrespectful, especially if he isn’t the highest rated MLB on the list.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:44 am
  • adeltaY wrote:I guess you're right Soulfish, #21 is really good. I wonder how high Russ will be.


    Since this is voted on by the players, I imagine definitely inside the Top 10. He has the players complete respect and admiration.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:44 am
  • 21st best player in the entire league is disrespect?
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:56 pm
  • Steve2222 wrote:Very disrespectful, especially if he isn’t the highest rated MLB on the list.


    Kuechly will be above him. I don't think he was better last year, but he is better overall. Unreal instincts in the passing game and he's great against the run. I'd take Wagz because he doesn't have concussion issues and is damn near as good.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:46 am
  • Bobby Wagner has outperformed Kuechley the past two years now.

    Yes, Wagner is better than Kuechley.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Sat Jun 16, 2018 6:47 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:21st best player in the entire league is disrespect?


    When you’re a Top 15 player in the league, yes.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:07 am
  • Wagner was easily the 2nd best defensive player in the NFL last season.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Sun Jun 17, 2018 8:12 am
  • "Not satisfied."

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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:44 pm
  • Wagner is the best Mike in the league now easily and ha been among the elite of the elite of all football players for a while now. I really like Kuechly as a WLB where his pass coverage ability is maximized and his weakness at the point of attack is minimized. Dude is 6'2/6'3 238. He's light and undersized with an average center of gravity. On top of that he has 30 inch arms, which is almost an oddity among LBs. I still remember his rookie game against the Hawks. Mike Rob literally put him on his back. Paul McCuistan launched him a legitimate 3 yards in the air(5 yards overall). And he got layed out a 3rd time as well.

    I think Kuechly is a brillant football player. He's a really nice athlete in most regards to boot, but I would expect that he had high grades in mathematics and geometry. His use of angles is probably unmatched. However, the use of angles is a byproduct of a weakness against the Point Of Attack.

    The single, lone area that Kuechly has an edge on Wagner is pass coverage, but Kuechly isn't even second in any other category. Many LBs are better than him in basically ever other category other than pass coverage. Obviously not understated, but whatever. Wagner is by far the top overall LB in the entire league.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:44 am
  • It's a list, it means squat. Look at where Goff was, that immediately makes the list weak. Not even worth the effort of a yawn.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:40 am
  • There's many factors why people inadvertently think Kuech is the best MLB in the NFL.

    - Top 10 pick
    - Plays on the east coast
    - Not overshadowed by any other player on his defense

    There's many factors why Bobby Wagner is probably the most underrated rated player in the NFL.

    - Plays on a geographically isolated team with majority of games played at the 4pm EST time block.
    - Went to a small school, second round draft pick
    - Overshadowed by the LOB secondary. Sherman, ET, and Kam got all the pub.

    Bobby Wagner is better than Luke Kuechley. He has separated himself from the pack the past two years.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:43 am
  • We know that, he knows that, good enough. :2thumbs:
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:18 pm
  • Wagner is an amazing talent and a class act as a person. Hope he has a long career in Seattle.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 18, 2018 12:44 pm
  • The league could use a lot more Bobby Wagner's
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:04 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:The league could use a lot more Bobby Wagner's


    I disagree, unless they also play for the Seahawks! :mrgreen:

    Kuechly came in at #12...the gap is too big IMO but it is what it is.
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Re: Bobby Wagner #21 on NFL Top 100 2018
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:11 am
  • Good point, only more Wagner's on the Hawks :irishdrinkers:
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