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  • Which Seahawks player can fill ‘intimidation’ void left by Kam Chancellor?

    After Chancellor appeared to announce his retirement Sunday, 710 ESPN Seattle’s Brock Huard was asked which defensive player can help to fill the physical intimidation void left by the All-Pro safety. His answer?

    Defensive end Frank Clark.

    “Man, I have pointed to this guy an awful lot in a lot of these questions throughout the offseason. It’s Frank Clark,” Huard said. “Frank Clark has got to be the guy, from a physical intimidation standpoint, that whenever and wherever he lines up on the field … assumes some of that role. And frankly, he can. He has shown you in spurts over the last few years that he will absolutely flat-back offensive linemen. He will destroy tight ends. He’ll run through running backs and then he’ll knock the oxygen out of a quarterback’s lungs. He is capable of doing all of those things.

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  • ivotuk wrote:Which Seahawks player can fill ‘intimidation’ void left by Kam Chancellor?

    After Chancellor appeared to announce his retirement Sunday, 710 ESPN Seattle’s Brock Huard was asked which defensive player can help to fill the physical intimidation void left by the All-Pro safety. His answer?

    Defensive end Frank Clark.

    “Man, I have pointed to this guy an awful lot in a lot of these questions throughout the offseason. It’s Frank Clark,” Huard said. “Frank Clark has got to be the guy, from a physical intimidation standpoint, that whenever and wherever he lines up on the field … assumes some of that role. And frankly, he can. He has shown you in spurts over the last few years that he will absolutely flat-back offensive linemen. He will destroy tight ends. He’ll run through running backs and then he’ll knock the oxygen out of a quarterback’s lungs. He is capable of doing all of those things.

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    I do not see soul removal listed, we need that guy or guys in the LB group or secondary that will make WR's think while running routes of where is THAT GUY, when thier focus is on a guy that will remove their soul it's not 100 percent on the play and the ball. Thats a intimidator.
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    ivotuk wrote:Which Seahawks player can fill ‘intimidation’ void left by Kam Chancellor?

    After Chancellor appeared to announce his retirement Sunday, 710 ESPN Seattle’s Brock Huard was asked which defensive player can help to fill the physical intimidation void left by the All-Pro safety. His answer?

    Defensive end Frank Clark.

    “Man, I have pointed to this guy an awful lot in a lot of these questions throughout the offseason. It’s Frank Clark,” Huard said. “Frank Clark has got to be the guy, from a physical intimidation standpoint, that whenever and wherever he lines up on the field … assumes some of that role. And frankly, he can. He has shown you in spurts over the last few years that he will absolutely flat-back offensive linemen. He will destroy tight ends. He’ll run through running backs and then he’ll knock the oxygen out of a quarterback’s lungs. He is capable of doing all of those things.

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    I do not see soul removal listed, we need that guy or guys in the LB group or secondary that will make WR's think while running routes of where is THAT GUY, when thier focus is on a guy that will remove their soul it's not 100 percent on the play and the ball. Thats a intimidator.


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  • Add to that listing Jack Lambert, Bill Romanowski, Dick Butkus, Troy Polamalu, John Lynch, our own Mike Curtis but at the end of his career, Kenny Easley, Jack Tatum, George Atkinson, and their are others, but the listed players if you were on offense you wanted to know where these guys were all the time, if you didn't chances are you would be getting a dose of smelling salts, that's not even catching the ball, if you were blocking one of them or being a wall for a runner these guys would go thru you.
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  • chris98251 wrote:Add to that listing Jack Lambert, Bill Romanowski, Dick Butkus, Troy Polamalu, John Lynch, our own Mike Curtis but at the end of his career, Kenny Easley, Jack Tatum, George Atkinson, and their are others, but the listed players if you were on offense you wanted to know where these guys were all the time, if you didn't chances are you would be getting a dose of smelling salts, that's not even catching the ball, if you were blocking one of them or being a wall for a runner these guys would go thru you.


    Most of those guys played in an era where defenders got away with a lot of intimidation tactics. Head-slaps, clothes-lining, leading with the helmet were all perfectly legal. The amazing thing about Kam was he intimidated opponents within the confines of today's rule set. He was so good at it that he was flagged on plays because the ref didn't think it was possible to legally inflect that much pain. He is a once in a generation player at SS.
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    chris98251 wrote:Add to that listing Jack Lambert, Bill Romanowski, Dick Butkus, Troy Polamalu, John Lynch, our own Mike Curtis but at the end of his career, Kenny Easley, Jack Tatum, George Atkinson, and their are others, but the listed players if you were on offense you wanted to know where these guys were all the time, if you didn't chances are you would be getting a dose of smelling salts, that's not even catching the ball, if you were blocking one of them or being a wall for a runner these guys would go thru you.


    Most of those guys played in an era where defenders got away with a lot of intimidation tactics. Head-slaps, clothes-lining, leading with the helmet were all perfectly legal. The amazing thing about Kam was he intimidated opponents within the confines of today's rule set. He was so good at it that he was flagged on plays because the ref didn't think it was possible to legally inflect that much pain. He is a once in a generation player at SS.


    Does it matter what damn Era ? jesus some of you guys just want to tear shit down, THEY INTIMIDATED OTHER PLAYERS PERIOD. Maurice Lucas, Karl Malone, Moses Malone, Lonnie Shelton, Leonard Gray, Wes Unsuld, were all guys that intimidated as well but on the Basketball Court. The same concept applies, men that you didn't want to get into anything with physically and brought an attitude with it. Rules don't matter, these types of guys will find a way to make thier presence know any way they can within a rule book and skirting the edges. They sent a message about toughness and attitude for their teams.

    When you see a player hit the turf with these guys around it wasn't going to be seen a flop like in Soccer and this days NBA.
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  • Kam was a generational player.

    You do not replace that. At least not easily.

    Maybe we can find some physical specimen with elite skills and a fantastic attitude that we can mold into a new Kam. But since safeties are becoming more valuable, it is not something you can bank on.

    Many of our strategies and tactics were predicated on leveraging his strengths.

    So I think you have to look at what you are strong at and move on to new strategies & tactics that leverage those. You have to find other ways of winning, not cling to pathways that depend on people with abilities that are no longer there.
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  • Why I still think Shaq 2.0 could come into play, he has everything but experience, the attitude, size and speed. They have him set as the WSL and situation pass rusher now but that could all change, they say he was well ahead of the curve knowledge wise in the defense and had to reign him back in OTA's also. Just a thought.

    Especially if some of the other guys show they can play that roll he is playing. He is also Unique in his size and speed. Kam was called a SS but he was a much more in the box guy like another LB anyway.
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  • Honestly I don’t believe anyone on the current roster has a hope of matching Kam’s level of aggression mixed with decisiveness and sheer power. There have been maybe 20 players in league history who could be considered on his level.
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  • ivotuk wrote:Which Seahawks player can fill ‘intimidation’ void left by Kam Chancellor?

    After Chancellor appeared to announce his retirement Sunday, 710 ESPN Seattle’s Brock Huard was asked which defensive player can help to fill the physical intimidation void left by the All-Pro safety. His answer?

    Defensive end Frank Clark.

    “Man, I have pointed to this guy an awful lot in a lot of these questions throughout the offseason. It’s Frank Clark,” Huard said. “Frank Clark has got to be the guy, from a physical intimidation standpoint, that whenever and wherever he lines up on the field … assumes some of that role. And frankly, he can. He has shown you in spurts over the last few years that he will absolutely flat-back offensive linemen. He will destroy tight ends. He’ll run through running backs and then he’ll knock the oxygen out of a quarterback’s lungs. He is capable of doing all of those things.

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    Exactly, Frank Clark. His name popped in my head instantly after I read the question.
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  • The Hawks have a history of big time hitters:
    Easley, Darryl Williams, Ken Hamiln and BamBam.

    Here's the thing, I cannot think of anyone on any team who hits as hard as Kam. No one. No one on this roster will ever match him.

    He is a generational player.
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  • You don’t replace a Kam. Sorry.
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  • replacing kam's physicality is one thing, but replacing his pattern recognition abilities will be another thing altogether...
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  • I know he was only a big hitter on special teams, but this seems a good place to remember Ricardo Lockette. He was a missile who didn't pull up before impact.

    The main problem with big hitters is that the impact of them hitting someone has an equal and opposite force on them. Except while Kam may hit 20 different guys once or twice, he gets hit every single time. It's too easy for them to get injured.

    As another side note, Easley was special in that he not only intimidated receivers as a big hitter, but also intimidated QBs as a ball-hawk. He was Kam and Sherm combined.
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  • Kam intimidated O lineman.

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  • Kam is a once in a generation player and there is no one like him in the league let alone on the team.

    The league has been trying to phase that kind of play out.

    Kam's most vicious hit was given a flag, not because it was illegal, because it scared the shit out of the refs. It was a perfectly legal hit and it is a great example that football plays without hits to the head can cause concussions.

    Kam is also very intelligent and Earl relied on Kam to get lined up correctly. That will be missed as much as his intimidation. Kam is soft spoken but became a great leader and that will be missed. He was one of the best run defenders and that certainly will be missed.
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  • There is nobody I can think of who can fill the intimidation void left by Kam.

    Easley is a great example from the Seahawks past.

    Brandon Browner in his prime brought some of that. Browner stole Wes Welker's soul, but don't recall him doing that to TE's much. https://youtu.be/LjR7UhbTZkE?t=362[/youtube] Browner defeated Cam Newton on several key plays.

    Sam Huff and Dick Butkus would be a legendary examples from the past.

    If you ask Frank Gifford, then Chuck Bednarik would make that list.

    Who else in this league could make Vernon Davis piss himself every time he runs into Kam's zone?
    Who else could scare the 2013 Broncos SB48 receivers witless every time they run a pattern over the middle?
    What other safety can toss a 300-lb offensive lineman aside like a rag doll and make the tackle on a running play?
    All that is just the tip of the iceberg.

    I do love me some Frank Clark, but his intimidation factor on the field, in terms of affecting how players and teams play, and taking a whole set of plays out of the playbook, "for health reasons" does not compare to Kam's.

    There is no one who compares to Kam.
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  • chris98251 wrote:Kam intimidated O lineman.

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    The most impressive thing about that, he still made the tackle on the RB. That is one of my favorite Kam memories.
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  • Ronnie Lott and Kam, two of a kind.

    Easley was better tjan Lott.
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