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  • He is going to be super successful here. So much so he is going to replace Pete when Pete is done. Pete’s contract ends at the end of the 2019 season paving the way for coach Schotty.

    Now that I’m on record I feel much better.
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  • Your confidence is refreshing.

    What if we cant run the football?
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  • :shock: :shock: :shock:
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  • Oh heck that other guy that was slated to be head coach isn't going to come back from Oakland to take over now ? Hope Schottenheimer is that successful because that means the team is. For now I am Just going to be estatic if they improve on offense to the point of scoring in the first half.
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  • We will see, I hope it is true but way to early to tell.
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  • Actually kind of fits a league-wide "norm" where a defensive oriented HC (Pete) gets replaced with an offensive oriented HC (Schotty) when the time comes. It doesn't always work that way, but I've seen it a lot.

    I'm not so sure Pete will retire in 3 years, he still looks pretty energized and motivated. But as they say, we'll see.

    There's always the chance, of course, that if Schotty does well, he'll be recruited by some team as a HC, for which we may not be able to protect him.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:He is going to be super successful here. So much so he is going to replace Pete when Pete is done. Pete’s contract ends at the end of the 2019 season paving the way for coach Schotty.

    Now that I’m on record I feel much better.


    Your last prediction I remember was Lacy was a BEAST and would hit it big here last year IIRC.

    Hope you didn't just doom Shotty..... :shock:
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  • sutz wrote:Actually kind of fits a league-wide "norm" where a defensive oriented HC (Pete) gets replaced with an offensive oriented HC (Schotty) when the time comes. It doesn't always work that way, but I've seen it a lot.

    I'm not so sure Pete will retire in 3 years, he still looks pretty energized and motivated. But as they say, we'll see.

    There's always the chance, of course, that if Schotty does well, he'll be recruited by some team as a HC, for which we may not be able to protect him.


    In general I agree but there were times last season that Pete looked absolutely exhausted and at wits end about WTH was happening around him. Never seen him so stressed myself. Hence the reason Cabevell is gone now IMO.
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  • Atradees wrote:Your confidence is refreshing.

    What if we cant run the football?


    No worries, that is why we have an 80 yard punter now....Pete thinks of everything! :irishdrinkers:
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  • Unless he does a legit 180 I hope not. I'm hoping we can somehow poach DQ back from the Falcons
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  • Seymour wrote:
    sutz wrote:Actually kind of fits a league-wide "norm" where a defensive oriented HC (Pete) gets replaced with an offensive oriented HC (Schotty) when the time comes. It doesn't always work that way, but I've seen it a lot.

    I'm not so sure Pete will retire in 3 years, he still looks pretty energized and motivated. But as they say, we'll see.

    There's always the chance, of course, that if Schotty does well, he'll be recruited by some team as a HC, for which we may not be able to protect him.


    In general I agree but there were times last season that Pete looked absolutely exhausted and at wits end about WTH was happening around him. Never seen him so stressed myself. Hence the reason Cabevell is gone now IMO.

    True, and maybe if this year goes like last he may do something. But from what I've seen from recent pressers, the infusion of new coaches and young players has re-energized him. I think there is something to the idea that he prefers working with young guys to vets. Some of the guys that have left did seem to get jaded and lose the "compete" philosophy. Certainly, we lost a bit of the full buy in team mantra.

    IAE, I look for Pete to be his energetic, gum chewing self this year. :179422:
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  • sutz wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
    sutz wrote:Actually kind of fits a league-wide "norm" where a defensive oriented HC (Pete) gets replaced with an offensive oriented HC (Schotty) when the time comes. It doesn't always work that way, but I've seen it a lot.

    I'm not so sure Pete will retire in 3 years, he still looks pretty energized and motivated. But as they say, we'll see.

    There's always the chance, of course, that if Schotty does well, he'll be recruited by some team as a HC, for which we may not be able to protect him.


    In general I agree but there were times last season that Pete looked absolutely exhausted and at wits end about WTH was happening around him. Never seen him so stressed myself. Hence the reason Cabevell is gone now IMO.

    True, and maybe if this year goes like last he may do something. But from what I've seen from recent pressers, the infusion of new coaches and young players has re-energized him. I think there is something to the idea that he prefers working with young guys to vets. Some of the guys that have left did seem to get jaded and lose the "compete" philosophy. Certainly, we lost a bit of the full buy in team mantra.

    IAE, I look for Pete to be his energetic, gum chewing self this year. :179422:


    Well that is a good point and you are probably right about that now that I give it more thought. I think he is indeed more in his realm or wheelhouse working with younger players. I also think that is in part why Earl has had no know offer from the team even though the guy can still play.
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  • The names rumored earlier this year were Gruden, Saban and Harbaugh. Gruden is obviously out. The other two depends on how much Paul wants to pay. It seemed Harbaugh was Pete's choice and Saban was Paul's.

    If someone wants to search, I'm sure the article could be found. I don't think Gruden was actually mentioned by name. But it was rumored to be down to three at the time. And he would have been a safe bet at the time.

    Of course it's a little moot at the moment. A lot can change between now and when the time comes.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:The names rumored earlier this year were Gruden, Saban and Harbaugh. Gruden is obviously out. The other two depends on how much Paul wants to pay. It seemed Harbaugh was Pete's choice and Saban was Paul's.
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    If someone wants to search, I'm sure the article could be found. I don't think Gruden was actually mentioned by name. But it was rumored to be down to three at the time. And he would have been a safe bet at the time.

    Of course it's a little moot at the moment. A lot can change between now and when the time comes.


    Huh?? I don't understand how "whats your deal" would be Pete's choice??
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  • Based on what he has actually done, I dislike this idea a lot. I like the optimism though. I hope he is so successful that we feel that way after this season or next.
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  • Oh Cable is going to be the Next Head Coach, Then Bevell, the Richard, now Schotty who has yet to call one play for the Seahawks.
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  • Wasn't there a poster who always said Bevell would be the next head coach?
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  • HawkGA wrote:Wasn't there a poster who always said Bevell would be the next head coach?


    Yeah he left when Bevell did. Talk about a serious Bevell fetish guy could see nothing wrong ever.
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  • homerun1970 wrote:
    HawkGA wrote:Wasn't there a poster who always said Bevell would be the next head coach?


    Yeah he left when Bevell did. Talk about a serious Bevell fetish guy could see nothing wrong ever.

    Sioux Hawk. He believed Jackson was a legit starting QB, and he worshiped the ground Bevell walked on. I have my suspicions that he was Bevell himself. Viking fans are not too fond of the guy either.
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  • Spin Doctor wrote:
    homerun1970 wrote:
    HawkGA wrote:Wasn't there a poster who always said Bevell would be the next head coach?


    Yeah he left when Bevell did. Talk about a serious Bevell fetish guy could see nothing wrong ever.

    Sioux Hawk. He believed Jackson was a legit starting QB, and he worshiped the ground Bevell walked on. I have my suspicions that he was Bevell himself. Viking fans are not too fond of the guy either.


    Mentioning his name got me a warning here because everyone is suppose to magically know he was banned and cannot "defend himself". :roll: :pukeface: :141847_bnono:
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  • Funny if you don’t think Perry will be an automatic HOF player and our new OC so successful that he becomes HC then you are a pessimist....

    So guess I won’t counter the OP. Just say IF we are successful then yes he would be one of the candidates
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  • Unless Pete develops a "health challenge", I see him staying until the end of the 2019 year. Brian's future here depends on this year's performance.
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  • Seymour wrote:
    Spin Doctor wrote:
    homerun1970 wrote:
    HawkGA wrote:Wasn't there a poster who always said Bevell would be the next head coach?


    Yeah he left when Bevell did. Talk about a serious Bevell fetish guy could see nothing wrong ever.

    Sioux Hawk. He believed Jackson was a legit starting QB, and he worshiped the ground Bevell walked on. I have my suspicions that he was Bevell himself. Viking fans are not too fond of the guy either.


    Mentioning his name got me a warning here because everyone is suppose to magically know he was banned and cannot "defend himself". :roll: :pukeface: :141847_bnono:


    He was banned? Had no idea lol
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  • adeltaY wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
    Spin Doctor wrote:
    homerun1970 wrote:
    Yeah he left when Bevell did. Talk about a serious Bevell fetish guy could see nothing wrong ever.

    Sioux Hawk. He believed Jackson was a legit starting QB, and he worshiped the ground Bevell walked on. I have my suspicions that he was Bevell himself. Viking fans are not too fond of the guy either.


    Mentioning his name got me a warning here because everyone is suppose to magically know he was banned and cannot "defend himself". :roll: :pukeface: :141847_bnono:


    He was banned? Had no idea lol


    Exactly...but don't say his name! It would make no sense that he would leave on his own since his superhero was fired....riiiiight. :roll:
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  • Seymour wrote:
    Spin Doctor wrote:
    homerun1970 wrote:
    HawkGA wrote:Wasn't there a poster who always said Bevell would be the next head coach?


    Yeah he left when Bevell did. Talk about a serious Bevell fetish guy could see nothing wrong ever.

    Sioux Hawk. He believed Jackson was a legit starting QB, and he worshiped the ground Bevell walked on. I have my suspicions that he was Bevell himself. Viking fans are not too fond of the guy either.


    Mentioning his name got me a warning here because everyone is suppose to magically know he was banned and cannot "defend himself". :roll: :pukeface: :141847_bnono:

    So, what you're saying is that Siouxhawk is the .net equivalent of Voldemort? He who shall not be named.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:He is going to be super successful here. So much so he is going to replace Pete when Pete is done. Pete’s contract ends at the end of the 2019 season paving the way for coach Schotty.

    Now that I’m on record I feel much better.


    Maybe Eddie Lacy and him will be in the same HOF class one day.
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  • Scientist,

    For him to be successful enough to be a Head Coach, he would have to be pretty successful here.

    That would only happen by him making us successful.

    If he helps the Seahawks find success again I would be ecstatic.

    Let's hope you are right.
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  • TwistedHusky wrote:Scientist,

    For him to be successful enough to be a Head Coach, he would have to be pretty successful here.

    That would only happen by him making us successful.

    If he helps the Seahawks find success again I would be ecstatic.

    Let's hope you are right.


    They'd have to have a historically good offense for him to be HC-worthy IMO. I think Shanahan is a good example of a guy who had some success in a few places that culminated in him creating a top 10 all time offense in the 2016 Falcons, which led to him getting a HC job. If Schotty can do that, good on him. I don't think he's the same kind of OC as Shanahan though.
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  • I would guarantee this much:

    If Shotty failed to impress as Seahawks’ OC, he will never become a HC in NFL. No doubt about it.

    If he would to be super successful, ie top 3 offense in year 3, he would be under consideration for HC by Paul and other owners.

    I am hoping that he turn our offense around, I felt like we have two great pieces: Wilson and Baldwin; an unproven but potential game changer in Penny; and two nice change of pace RBs, so we have some asset in skilled position. Two good blocking TEs and an OL stocked with two pro bowlers and an all-rookie team guard.

    If Shotty could improve points per game from our 22.9 (#11th ranked) to 26.1 (#5th Jacksonville) in this season and to 28 (#3rd Philly) in next season. Hawks could go really really deep in playoffs.

    Are we better this season on offense? We lost a capable but incomplete TE, a speedy WR, a LOL LG. We gained one of the best college RB, return of Carson. A faulted but top notch run blocking RG, and a pair of top notch BLOCKING TEs. I like our chance to be better than last year.

    Guys, 3 points or a field goal per game separate us from league’s #5 offense!


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  • I would say there is a 99% chance he won't be the Head Coach of the Seahawks.

    Here is why.

    If he is awesome he will be poached after 1 yr. NFL Teams are desperate for QB guru type Head Coaches. So he will be an NFL Head Coach, just for another team.

    -or-

    More than likely he will be just okay and not be deemed Head Coach material. In that case he definitely won't get the Seahawks job. Paul Allen likes to hire big.

    Just throw him on the pile along with Cable, Bevell, & Richard who were supposed to be the Seahawks next Head Coach according to some around here.
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  • ImTheScientist wrote:He is going to be super successful here. So much so he is going to replace Pete when Pete is done. Pete’s contract ends at the end of the 2019 season paving the way for coach Schotty.

    Now that I’m on record I feel much better.

    Nothing about this man says he is going to be successful. He runs an archaic form of offense from a bygone era. It is complicated, and it takes teams at least a year to get a full grasp of it. He is on his forth rodeo, and from the footage I've watched of him I can see why. He is a lot like Bevell, only he runs a tighter ship and is slower to adjust to what teams are throwing at him. He is the kind of guy that will either sink or swim with the gameplan. I love the guy from a QB, and discipline prospective, but his offenses are frustrating to watch.

    Here are some fan prospectives on the guy: https://www.turfshowtimes.com/2015/1/7/ ... ms-georgia

    He is going to look better than he ever has because of Russell Wilson, but I expect a lot of frustration, and offensive stagnation. The same kind of things we saw under Bevell.
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  • How's Eddie Lacy doing?
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:How's Eddie Lacy doing?


    Gotten smaller?
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  • toffee wrote:I would guarantee this much:

    If Shotty failed to impress as Seahawks’ OC, he will never become a HC in NFL. No doubt about it.

    If he would to be super successful, ie top 3 offense in year 3, he would be under consideration for HC by Paul and other owners.

    I am hoping that he turn our offense around, I felt like we have two great pieces: Wilson and Baldwin; an unproven but potential game changer in Penny; and two nice change of pace RBs, so we have some asset in skilled position. Two good blocking TEs and an OL stocked with two pro bowlers and an all-rookie team guard.

    If Shotty could improve points per game from our 22.9 (#11th ranked) to 26.1 (#5th Jacksonville) in this season and to 28 (#3rd Philly) in next season. Hawks could go really really deep in playoffs.

    Are we better this season on offense? We lost a capable but incomplete TE, a speedy WR, a LOL LG. We gained one of the best college RB, return of Carson. A faulted but top notch run blocking RG, and a pair of top notch BLOCKING TEs. I like our chance to be better than last year.

    Guys, 3 points or a field goal per game separate us from league’s #5 offense!


    And how many missed field goals this last season??? Maybe the kicking game really matters for our overall offense.

    This was a good post, and I'm with you, toffee, on the potential of the season. I'm also hopeful that our line is more cohesive, with better technique, and provides lanes for our RBs. That would help our offense in every way. Russ will have a cleaner pocket because play-action will actually mean something, and we may even see the return of Russ keeping it on RO plays.
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  • Seymour wrote:
    Atradees wrote:Your confidence is refreshing.

    What if we cant run the football?


    No worries, that is why we have an 80 yard punter now....Pete thinks of everything! :irishdrinkers:


    Pete Does! :irishdrinkers: :rumble: :irishdrinkers: (Except we have no kicker)
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  • He's extremely lucky to be the OC after failing at his last 3 and only 3 stops at the position, but if he can find a way to be successful then why not.
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  • Fade wrote:I would say there is a 99% chance he won't be the Head Coach of the Seahawks.

    Here is why.

    If he is awesome he will be poached after 1 yr. NFL Teams are desperate for QB guru type Head Coaches. So he will be an NFL Head Coach, just for another team.

    -or-

    More than likely he will be just okay and not be deemed Head Coach material. In that case he definitely won't get the Seahawks job. Paul Allen likes to hire big.

    Just throw him on the pile along with Cable, Bevell, & Richard who were supposed to be the Seahawks next Head Coach according to some around here.



    Whenever Pete hangs em up, and it will most likely be his decision because of what he has brought this team, Paul Allen will hire big. Just look at his most successful hires in Holmgren and PC. No more Jim Moras. Whenever the next coaching search happens I fully expect to see an outside hire.
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  • oldhawkfan wrote:
    Fade wrote:I would say there is a 99% chance he won't be the Head Coach of the Seahawks.

    Here is why.

    If he is awesome he will be poached after 1 yr. NFL Teams are desperate for QB guru type Head Coaches. So he will be an NFL Head Coach, just for another team.

    -or-

    More than likely he will be just okay and not be deemed Head Coach material. In that case he definitely won't get the Seahawks job. Paul Allen likes to hire big.

    Just throw him on the pile along with Cable, Bevell, & Richard who were supposed to be the Seahawks next Head Coach according to some around here.



    Whenever Pete hangs em up, and it will most likely be his decision because of what he has brought this team, Paul Allen will hire big. Just look at his most successful hires in Holmgren and PC. No more Jim Moras. Whenever the next coaching search happens I fully expect to see an outside hire.


    Pederson may be enticed to come across the lake, he won't have to move his family. That is if Pederson thinks he has accomplished what he sought after coming to the UW, his system has proven able to transfer from a lower tier league now to a top tier league.

    The next step would have to be the NFL if he has that itch to scratch.
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  • Petersen would be an amazing hire. Coach Pete seems like he doesn't have any interest in the NFL, but if he does, Paul Allen should pursue aggressively.
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  • chris98251 wrote:
    oldhawkfan wrote:
    Fade wrote:I would say there is a 99% chance he won't be the Head Coach of the Seahawks.

    Here is why.

    If he is awesome he will be poached after 1 yr. NFL Teams are desperate for QB guru type Head Coaches. So he will be an NFL Head Coach, just for another team.

    -or-

    More than likely he will be just okay and not be deemed Head Coach material. In that case he definitely won't get the Seahawks job. Paul Allen likes to hire big.

    Just throw him on the pile along with Cable, Bevell, & Richard who were supposed to be the Seahawks next Head Coach according to some around here.



    Whenever Pete hangs em up, and it will most likely be his decision because of what he has brought this team, Paul Allen will hire big. Just look at his most successful hires in Holmgren and PC. No more Jim Moras. Whenever the next coaching search happens I fully expect to see an outside hire.


    Pederson may be enticed to come across the lake, he won't have to move his family. That is if Pederson thinks he has accomplished what he sought after coming to the UW, his system has proven able to transfer from a lower tier league now to a top tier league.

    The next step would have to be the NFL if he has that itch to scratch.



    I thought you were talking about Doug Pederson and I got hella excited. Not like it would happen anyway, guy just won a SB and could be Philly coach for a long time.
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  • adeltaY wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    oldhawkfan wrote:
    Fade wrote:I would say there is a 99% chance he won't be the Head Coach of the Seahawks.

    Here is why.

    If he is awesome he will be poached after 1 yr. NFL Teams are desperate for QB guru type Head Coaches. So he will be an NFL Head Coach, just for another team.

    -or-

    More than likely he will be just okay and not be deemed Head Coach material. In that case he definitely won't get the Seahawks job. Paul Allen likes to hire big.

    Just throw him on the pile along with Cable, Bevell, & Richard who were supposed to be the Seahawks next Head Coach according to some around here.



    Whenever Pete hangs em up, and it will most likely be his decision because of what he has brought this team, Paul Allen will hire big. Just look at his most successful hires in Holmgren and PC. No more Jim Moras. Whenever the next coaching search happens I fully expect to see an outside hire.


    Pederson may be enticed to come across the lake, he won't have to move his family. That is if Pederson thinks he has accomplished what he sought after coming to the UW, his system has proven able to transfer from a lower tier league now to a top tier league.

    The next step would have to be the NFL if he has that itch to scratch.



    I thought you were talking about Doug Pederson and I got hella excited. Not like it would happen anyway, guy just won a SB and could be Philly coach for a long time.



    Well Philly has little patience and if they have a down year anything could happen, he is from Waashington also so that move would not be to far fetched either.


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  • Ah yes, he is a local boy. Maybe things don't work out in Philly but I'd imagine he's earned at least a three year leash.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:How's Eddie Lacy doing?

    I’ll stand on my pre-draft Russell Wilson prediction. Funny thing is I got a week ban for saying he would be this franchises best QB. Was told to stop trolling.
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  • You got called a troll for saying Russ would be the best in team history? wow
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:You got called a troll for saying Russ would be the best in team history? wow


    He isn't though, Hasselbeck was twice the QB. :0190l:
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  • For those who are talking about Brian's last 3 stints go back and look at their QB situations.

    He always had a subpar QB or his star QB hurt all the time
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  • adeltaY wrote:Unless he does a legit 180 I hope not. I'm hoping we can somehow poach DQ back from the Falcons


    If we’re able to poach DQ it probably means he’s not doing very well anymore
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  • kthebestwayw wrote:For those who are talking about Brian's last 3 stints go back and look at their QB situations.

    He always had a subpar QB or his star QB hurt all the time


    Pretty sure they said that about Greg Knapp, too, when they needed to feel better about hiring him.
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  • therealjohncarlson wrote:
    adeltaY wrote:Unless he does a legit 180 I hope not. I'm hoping we can somehow poach DQ back from the Falcons


    If we’re able to poach DQ it probably means he’s not doing very well anymore


    That would be true about any current HC... Its not like Andy Reid was a bad hire for KC because he was doing bad in Philly at the time.
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