ET III interesting twist.

Amari Cooper to Cowboys for a 1st.

This speaks volumes too me.

What y’all think?


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsspo ... -move/amp/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/277 ... round-pick

Jerruh loves offense.

One guy is 24yo the other is 29yo. Could be the difference between a 1 or 2nd rounder.

Rookie deal vs 3rd contract. One on the rise, the other peaked and will be on the decline.

Also....obviously completely different positions and need. I'd venture to say they are really hurting for consistent targets in Dallas more than at FS position.

Ahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Apples and oranges if you're comparing Earl vs. Cooper's trade value. Different position, different age.

The most drastic comparison is Gordon vs. Cooper. The Brown only got a 5th rounder for Gordon. IMO the Cowboys way overpaid for Cooper, 1st is crazy.

Guess it goes to show you why some organizations stay on top (Patriots), and some never get it (Browns and Cowboys).

One of the players mentioned is really good at football, the other isnt.
I still can't believe Dallas gave up a possible top 15 pick for Amari Cooper (and they will be giving him a nice new huge contract too.)

Sgt. Largent":34i2rlf8 said:

Apples and oranges if you're comparing Earl vs. Cooper's trade value. Different position, different age.

The most drastic comparison is Gordon vs. Cooper. The Brown only got a 5th rounder for Gordon. IMO the Cowboys way overpaid for Cooper, 1st is crazy.

Guess it goes to show you why some organizations stay on top (Patriots), and some never get it (Browns and Cowboys).

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So much this. Assuming ET didnt get hurt he would have made that team better over Cooper.
After yesterday’s loss, Crazy uncle Jerruh is desperate.

Definitely overpaid, but is also a position they desperately need improve. They don't need a safety the way they need a receiver so Jerry let the need override his brain.

Sgt. Largent":gqsogpq6 said:

Apples and oranges if you're comparing Earl vs. Cooper's trade value. Different position, different age.

The most drastic comparison is Gordon vs. Cooper. The Brown only got a 5th rounder for Gordon. IMO the Cowboys way overpaid for Cooper, 1st is crazy.

Guess it goes to show you why some organizations stay on top (Patriots), and some never get it (Browns and Cowboys).

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And they were lucky to get that. Gordon is one misstep away from a permanent ban by the NFL.

Cooper has no off the field issues that I know of. Dallas will get much more long term production out of Amari Cooper than Josh Gordon will provide for the Patriots.

All that said, a 1st was too much to give up for a mediocre WR with a concussion. I would think maybe a 2nd since it's a rookie contract with a 5th year option. That saves a lot of money.


Earl won't be getting traded. His contract will end in December, and he will sign with whoever he wants to. But he's going to be severely disappointed about the offers he will receive.

It seems that Amari's concussion transferred over to Jerry Jones. Cowboys gave up too much for a #2 or 3 WR at best.

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Sgt. Largent":3546259v said:

Apples and oranges if you're comparing Earl vs. Cooper's trade value. Different position, different age.

The most drastic comparison is Gordon vs. Cooper. The Brown only got a 5th rounder for Gordon. IMO the Cowboys way overpaid for Cooper, 1st is crazy.

Guess it goes to show you why some organizations stay on top (Patriots), and some never get it (Browns and Cowboys).

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And they were lucky to get that. Gordon is one misstep away from a permanent ban by the NFL.

Cooper has no off the field issues that I know of. Dallas will get much more long term production out of Amari Cooper than Josh Gordon will provide for the Patriots.

All that said, a 1st was too much to give up for a mediocre WR with a concussion. I would think maybe a 2nd since it's a rookie contract with a 5th year option. That saves a lot of money.

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For sure it's not EXACTLY the same, Gordon obviously has some baggage that dropped his value. But IMO a 5th was right for Gordon, and a 1st is WAY too much for Cooper, who's underperformed now for two straight years........and btw is an UFA after next season.

Especially for an offense like the Cowboys that want to run the ball over 50% of the time behind their line and Zeke, makes no sense.

Jerry Jones is like most pundits that believe offense is the key to today's NFL and that bolstering a defense is foolish. So WR's are overvalued over defensive players in general.

But come winter and playoff time, you'll see a good number of top defensive teams in the hunt and several offensive teams suddenly fall by the wayside. Happens every year seemingly.

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Mad Dog":2i1berru said:

Jerry Jones is like most pundits that believe offense is the key to today's NFL and that bolstering a defense is foolish. So WR's are overvalued over defensive players in general.

But come winter and playoff time, you'll see a good number of top defensive teams in the hunt and several offensive teams suddenly fall by the wayside. Happens every year seemingly.

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Jones thinks that bolstering a defense is "foolish"?? Where does that come from?

Sorry, but that sounds foolish to me. Just because he hasn't made it a priority doesn't mean he believes it's foolish to invest in defense.

Seems shortsighted but then again Jerrah has always done things his way and hasn't won the big games for a very long time.

Earl is unlikely to be paid by them and probably won't get the deal he wants regardless of the team that decides they are prepared to sign him.

Foolish yes, but not as foolish as our GM trading a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder for an injury-prone Percy Harvin and giving him a 67 million dollar contract. Weird how NFL GMs fall in love with wide receivers from other teams.

The Cowboys were supposed to be a very good offense and a porous defense.

The reverse has happened.

The Cowboys, being used to having a good offense, are panicking. So the obvious simplistic answer is that the offense is failing because their lost their best WR. But they cannot get him because giving in to Dez is not going to go over well. They got Cooper, hoping he can be another Dez without the drama.

They are hoping that turns the offense back into what it was. But the problem is their line, not the loss of the WR.

This has nothing to do with Earl, this is the panicked trading of a #1 for a WR to fix an offense that is failing miserably.

Funny thing is they probably could've got Brandon Marshall for a 5th round pick and received equal production as Amari Cooper will give them. Both players drop a lot of passes.

Part of this just may be Gruden wanting to re-make the roster.....so it becomes more of 'his' team? Just sayin' :mrgreen:

Mad Dog":3c9onlro said:

Jerry Jones is like most pundits that believe offense is the key to today's NFL and that bolstering a defense is foolish. So WR's are overvalued over defensive players in general.

But come winter and playoff time, you'll see a good number of top defensive teams in the hunt and several offensive teams suddenly fall by the wayside. Happens every year seemingly.

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Kind of like that time that we traded away our first and third round pick for a wide receiver that we never used, or that time we traded a first, and our best offensive lineman for a tight end that we didn't use properly. Or what about that time before that where we tried to trade for Brandon Marshall. Any of those moves seem to ring any bells?

We can criticize the Cowboys all we want, but the Seahawks have made similar moves that have ended in epic disasters.