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Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:26 pm
  • Chargers took away the deep ball and Wilson/Pete still haven't figured out a short passing game for when your run game is hurting. Rodgers, Brady, Brees all have elite short-medium passing strategies. Seahawks don't have one when they need to use it. Wilson still hasn't learned he can't hold onto the ball for as long as he thinks he can. Gus Bradley literally out coached Pete today.
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:45 pm
  • Crizilla wrote:Chargers took away the deep ball and Wilson/Pete still haven't figured out a short passing game for when your run game is hurting. Rodgers, Brady, Brees all have elite short-medium passing strategies. Seahawks don't have one when they need to use it. Wilson still hasn't learned he can't hold onto the ball for as long as he thinks he can. Gus Bradley literally out coached Pete today.

    I've been saying this for years now.

    This is the Seahawks game plan every week.

    1st down: run
    2nd down: run
    3rd: pass but run receivers 40 yards down the field and hope there isn't a offensive flag.

    The short underneath routes are always open but Carroll lives for these stupid "big plays" down the field.

    Smh.
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 8:55 pm
  • Wilson's height is the primary reason they don't have a quick passing game. It's probably the only part of being a QB where his height is a hindrance, but it's a big one.

    He cannot throw a quick pass in the middle of the field because the passing/viewing lanes aren't yet open. It's the reason amost every single time they're passing to pick up a short gain, it's an outward breaking route.

    NO/Brees gets over this limitation by having perfected the pick play routes when short gains are needed. Seattle/Wilson haven't gotten there, and I'm not sure they ever will.
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:01 pm
  • TheLegendOfBoom wrote:
    Crizilla wrote:Chargers took away the deep ball and Wilson/Pete still haven't figured out a short passing game for when your run game is hurting. Rodgers, Brady, Brees all have elite short-medium passing strategies. Seahawks don't have one when they need to use it. Wilson still hasn't learned he can't hold onto the ball for as long as he thinks he can. Gus Bradley literally out coached Pete today.

    I've been saying this for years now.

    This is the Seahawks game plan every week.

    1st down: run
    2nd down: run
    3rd: pass but run receivers 40 yards down the field and hope there isn't a offensive flag.

    The short underneath routes are always open but Carroll lives for these stupid "big plays" down the field.

    Smh.



    I hope the Rams think the very same thing :)
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:12 pm
  • Crizilla wrote:Chargers took away the deep ball and Wilson/Pete still haven't figured out a short passing game for when your run game is hurting. Rodgers, Brady, Brees all have elite short-medium passing strategies. Seahawks don't have one when they need to use it. Wilson still hasn't learned he can't hold onto the ball for as long as he thinks he can. Gus Bradley literally out coached Pete today.


    Agreed. Holding too long is one of Wilson's biggest flaws.

    Pete seems confused out there at times.

    Still, there's lots to like this season. They are outperforming expectations that's for sure.
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 9:23 pm
  • Definitely outcoached today, which is sad when facing a Gus Bradley softzone defense.
    Hawks should have had their way offensively today. Bad gameplanning (once they got away from the scripted plays), bad play calling, bad execution!
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 10:24 pm
  • semiahmoo wrote:
    Crizilla wrote:Chargers took away the deep ball and Wilson/Pete still haven't figured out a short passing game for when your run game is hurting. Rodgers, Brady, Brees all have elite short-medium passing strategies. Seahawks don't have one when they need to use it. Wilson still hasn't learned he can't hold onto the ball for as long as he thinks he can. Gus Bradley literally out coached Pete today.


    Agreed. Holding too long is one of Wilson's biggest flaws.

    Pete seems confused out there at times.

    Still, there's lots to like this season. They are outperforming expectations that's for sure.


    I don't think they are out performing expectations at all. I'd say 4-4 half way through was the expectation.
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Re: Outcoached
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:07 pm
  • drrew wrote:Wilson's height is the primary reason they don't have a quick passing game. It's probably the only part of being a QB where his height is a hindrance, but it's a big one.

    He cannot throw a quick pass in the middle of the field because the passing/viewing lanes aren't yet open. It's the reason amost every single time they're passing to pick up a short gain, it's an outward breaking route.

    NO/Brees gets over this limitation by having perfected the pick play routes when short gains are needed. Seattle/Wilson haven't gotten there, and I'm not sure they ever will.



    Not true, second to last drive they used them, they used them a lot before as well, Baldwin was used a lot in the quick game. It's scheming, Bradley took away the go routes pretty much and that left the Run and underneath stuff that requires patience, Pete doesn't have that many times in games.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:58 am
  • Outcoached was just one aspect of an uninspired performance...but the "touchdown skit was just darling".. :pukeface:
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:51 am
  • Let's not blow this out of proportion. The Seahawks first drive, they looked like they could do that with ease every drive (similar to DET). Unfortunately LA made some adjustments and Seattle didn't- yeah they got out coached, but it's not like Seattle gets out coached every game.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:57 am
  • Would you trade RW for Carr? Just curious ...
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:10 am
  • YES!!!
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:18 am
  • Please do not smoke crack, it's bad for you.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:07 am
  • The Pick Six was probably the one spot where the being outcoached clearly came into play. And why we probably let Schotty go at the end of the year. John Gilbert gives a good writeup in FG about it.

    It's a serious issue with Schotty's schemes. His 6 yd outs have a high risk of being picked for TD's and we've seen it twice this year already from Russell. Baldwin was supposed to drag the inside defender deep but any smart defender knows this is just a tactic to take him away from the out route, so he's got an easy pick if he buzzes underneath. Happened in Chicago. Happened against LAC.

    If Pete doesn't remove that route combination from the playbook today after Tell the Truth Monday then he's got some splaining to do. That route combination was the death of Mark Sanchez, Kellen Clemens, Austin Davis and Shaun Hill.

    The remedial nature of our passing attack continues to be an issue when the run game stalls. Schotty is not scheming guys open and Wilson gets blamed for holding on to the ball too long.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:13 am
  • I'm a little sick of Pete talking all the time about running the ball and then guess what all we do is run the ball. This is fine against a crap team like Oakland but to beat a good team we need to be balanced on offense and not tell everyone all week what we're going to do.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:19 am
  • drrew wrote:Wilson's height is the primary reason they don't have a quick passing game.


    You know that as fact?
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:21 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Please do not smoke crack, it's bad for you.


    Sadly it seems your warning came a bit too late.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:17 pm
  • LOL...I can visualize you guys wearing your Russell Wilson PJS with the attached footies ; holding up his poster with just one hand... busted.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:32 pm
  • Are you 10 years old? Just curious
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:09 pm
  • Nope retired...how bout you? you're in here all the time shouldn't you be looking for a real job.
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Re: Outcoached
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:12 pm
  • Let's stay on topic here. :141847_bnono:
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