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We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:36 am
  • We are, what the record says we are.

    Looking more like the 2011 team, minus making the playoffs.

    The fact is, the league is made up of a lot of mediocre teams. Only 6 out of 16 NFC teams has a winning record and I only consider the Ram, Saints, and Panthers elite.

    Not going to throw in the towel yet, but it only gets tougher as we have to play teams with winning records later this year.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:51 am
  • This is exactly true

    I was really hoping we could win 2 out of the 4 tough games against the Chargers, Packers, Rams, and Panthers and now i'm wondering if we'll even win 1 of those. We can beat the Packers maybe, but that Chargers game was the one I was kind of counting on being at home and with the whole Paul Allen thing, but it didnt happen. Now we're banged up and weaker than we were. We are not a good team, we are an average team just as the record states.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:03 am
  • When you only score a single TD in the first half, you have very little room for complaint.

    Though....we did get screwed on that pick pay. We probably score on that early drive. But it wasn't as if we were that motivated.

    Again, on our 3rd and longs we just called draws. Our opponent at least tried to convert. Some of them they did. Anything over 3rd and 15 for us, and it seemed like we were just running draws up the middle with Davis instead. Just essentially conceding the punt was coming. Very frustrating.

    This style of football shows what the team is. This is a team that will win a lot of games beating up on weaker teams. We can probably count on 8 wins every season. We won't be bottom feeders. But it isn't going to beat the better teams. Which is fine, we've had our run.

    Again, our best players are on offense. It would be nice to see what a coach with offense as the emphasis could do with this roster. We have a decent defense, but the roster on the defense is pretty much average players. Clark, Wagner and KJ aside - our horses and biggest difference makers are on offense.

    The thing is we have a coach that can eke good to decent defense from a collection of average athletes (for the NFL). So we probably shouldn't expect much more than what we have (which exceeded expectations so far) than what we have now. We still have games against the 49ers and Cards. Green Bay looks surprisingly mortal. We should have a decent record. This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:08 am
  • TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:11 am
  • Yup. Agreed.

    I've told my coworker at the beginning of the year that the Seahawks will finish this year at 8-8. He argues they are 10-6.

    My how right I look.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:16 am
  • It gets worse...Rams..then the Packers...then the Panthers...they probably lose those too.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:18 am
  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.


    Still hold it as a good possibility
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:20 am
  • I choose to believe, and that's just how I go about it. I don't expect playoffs, and haven't really expected playoffs all year. Forever optimistic sure, but reality is that this team is still trying to gel etc. That being said, people have written this team off many times over the years, only to see them rally and start getting wins. Plenty of games over the years that people thought they had no chance in. Shoot, they can beat the paper champion Rams. If they play up to their capability, they can beat the Rams and shred that farce of a defense. Someone asked me this morning what I am thinking for the next 2 games. I said we lose a close one at LA, and knock off the Pack next Thursday and are sitting at 5-5, with 4 home games in December. Not bad at all considering.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:24 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.


    Still hold it as a good possibility


    Its possible Si, but we are going to need a lot of help I think.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:41 am
  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.


    Still hold it as a good possibility


    Its possible Si, but we are going to need a lot of help I think.


    There are a lot of average nfc teams at the moment.

    Win 2 of 4 against packers, vikings, panthers, chiefs and the chance is there.

    Tough loss though.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:44 am
  • So if we beat the Rams and the Packers, are 6-4, will we suddenly be a 10-6 team again?

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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:45 am
  • Surprising for sure, but if they split these next 2, and are sitting at 5-5 with 4 home games in December. It could happen. Not saying it will, but they are capable of doing some good things this year. But, health will be huge, this team isn't deep enough to lose more guys to injury.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:55 am
  • You can run on the Rams. With Carson, we could probably beat them if we stop our idiotic approach to how we use Wilson.
    But without Carson? No. Chance.
    (Davis is not a starting caliber back. He is a guy that can occasionally get good yards and can generally get positive yardage if he gets a hole. He is a decent to good alternate.)

    But the other teams?

    The Packers and Vikings are beatable. Not easy but absolutely mortal. The 49ers and Cards should be locks.

    Chiefs and Panthers likely shell us. But that is still a decent record in total.

    I don't care if people expect the playoffs. Good on them. It would suck to go into the season with literally zero possibility of the playoffs. But most people expected between 7-9 and 9-7. The team is meeting those expectations.

    I am disappointed because I think we have it in this team to do better. But not when I acknowledge what our roster actually looks like.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:58 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.


    Still hold it as a good possibility


    Its possible Si, but we are going to need a lot of help I think.


    There are a lot of average nfc teams at the moment.

    Win 2 of 4 against packers, vikings, panthers, chiefs and the chance is there.

    Tough loss though.


    Your right. One of the areas I struggle seeing and understanding is how inconsistent the NFC is when talking about the playoffs. I always put all of the burden on the shoulders of Seattle and overlook what everybody else is doing.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:05 am
  • I see 8-8 to 9-7. I think 9-7 possibly gets us in via a tie breaker. Itd be nice to get 10 wins and i thought we might but chargers i thought was a win. Now if we beat rams, is sb bac back on?
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:08 am
  • xray wrote:It gets worse...Rams..then the Packers...then the Panthers...they probably lose those too.


    1-2 at best but yes the Packers game will be a must win for them we probably lose all three.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:33 am
  • The fact that is more disturbing then poor play and the loss is that ; Rivers and the Chargers had an off day too ; but still won @ the Hawks home.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 8:47 am
  • Guys how dare you.... have tempered expectations or your not welcome on this page
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:34 pm
  • We CAN beat any one of those teams with a healthy Carson. Without Carson those games are much more in doubt. I sort of expect Russ to have a handful of ish the bed games per year, but I had previously thought that Davis was good enough to keep it afloat. No longer. Davis left a ton of yards on the field acting too pretty and was flat out BAD in pass protection.

    I don't rule out that the light comes on for Penny later in the year...maybe about week 13 and stops playing so hesitant, but it is obvious that Carson is the straw that stirs the drink. Not unlike another freak athlete before him.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:37 pm
  • xray wrote:The fact that is more disturbing then poor play and the loss is that ; Rivers and the Chargers had an off day too ; but still won @ the Hawks home.


    The Chargers didn't have an off day. They've played well all year and still are.

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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:46 pm
  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.



    True. And those same people unfortunately have a habit of attacking those who are simply explaining the team's many deficiencies.

    I still think we have an outside chance at the playoffs which starting out I thought no way.

    That said, yes, this is not a legit playoff threat team and we haven't been for some time.

    Just hope the ownership situation is squared away before too long and we can turn to really hitting the rest button.

    It's overdue.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:08 pm
  • semiahmoo wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.



    True. And those same people unfortunately have a habit of attacking those who are simply explaining the team's many deficiencies.


    "Simply explaining the team's deficiencies" isn't the same as "using the team's deficiencies to make absolute conclusions about the future of the team's coaching staff", FYI.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:10 pm
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    semiahmoo wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    TwistedHusky wrote: This was never a contender, likely isn't a playoff team, and there were few expectations for that at the start of the year.


    Unfortunately, there were expectations of that from some people right up until the yesterdays game.



    True. And those same people unfortunately have a habit of attacking those who are simply explaining the team's many deficiencies.


    "Simply explaining the team's deficiencies" isn't the same as "using the team's deficiencies to make absolute conclusions about the future of the team's coaching staff", FYI.



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Re: We are a .500 team
Mon Nov 05, 2018 2:14 pm
  • xray wrote:The fact that is more disturbing then poor play and the loss is that ; Rivers and the Chargers had an off day too ; but still won @ the Hawks home.


    Well, the Hawks had a very poor showing. Hoping it was a one-off kind of deal but worried it could multiply.

    If we finish anything over .500 this season given the many changes I'll count that as exceeding expectations.

    We'll see.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:54 pm
  • Wished I would of seen this post before I posted. 8-8 will be exceeding my expectations look at the start of the season to where we are now we have improved a heck of a lot IMO on both sides of the ball. I expect a team with a good QB to take advantage of the D I think next year watch out. The O has improved IMO 100% better then the last 2 seasons and will probably keep improving as Russ gets more in tune with Shotty and his receivers. How about the OL I for one was saying Ifedi needs to go he doesn't look that bad now. Raiders OL needs some help though looks like ours last year lol.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:50 pm
  • xray wrote:The fact that is more disturbing then poor play and the loss is that ; Rivers and the Chargers had an off day too ; but still won @ the Hawks home.


    However, you failed to take in the help given to the Chargers by the Referees.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:27 pm
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Re: We are a .500 team
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:15 am
  • Bigpumpkin wrote:
    xray wrote:The fact that is more disturbing then poor play and the loss is that ; Rivers and the Chargers had an off day too ; but still won @ the Hawks home.


    However, you failed to take in the help given to the Chargers by the Referees.

    There are random events that happen in every game that can change the tide and flow of the game. This is why I've always despised the "you win in the 4th Quarter mantra" that Pete Carroll has always held. We have a ton of comeback victories, but we've also lost some games we should have won because we leave zero room for error. The adjustments are always slow on offense, or flat out non-existent. We tend to try to square peg a round hole on the offensive side of the ball, and that is the way it has always been.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:23 am
  • I think anywhere from 7-9 to 9-7 is possible with this team. Our depth isn't particularly good, and there are certain positions that we are razor thin at. We have a lot of holes, and inexperience on this team right now. The good news is development has been pretty good on guys like Flowers, Griffin, and our two safeties. We have also found a coach is able to make a world beater line just by adding two journeyman and a scheme that makes sense. On offense we have a good runningback in Carson and DJ Moore also shows some promise. We may end 8-8, but it's not the worst place this team could be.
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Re: We are a .500 team
Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:34 am
  • If they can stay healthy, which is looking iffy right now, 9 wins is doable. If they start losing guys like Mcdougald, Carson and Fluker? 7 wins is more likely. It's just reality for a team that is not deep at all.
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