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Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:47 pm
  • Anytime these two teams play each other, especially in Seattle, it's a fist fight. We couldn't have started off worse. Russell looked tight in the first half, just couldn't really get into a solid rhythm...They just came out and looked a bit stiff as if this was a must win game or something...Oh wait...

    There were frustrating moments for sure. I wanted to slap Russell when he ran for that big first down only to have it negated (and out of FG range) because he decided to get cute and lateral it (illegally forward). Oh I was ticked. 3 points against Aaron Rodgers is BIG before the half.

    The running game eventually did what it does and ended above our league-leading 152 yards-per-game average. It was great to see Dickson get that TD...Russell needs to trust the big man more. He's a solid TE with great hands and can be a deadly weapon. Defense really stepped up in the second half...Loved the pressure, sacking Rodgers 5 times.

    You don't apologize for these wins. This WAS a MUST WIN game, make no mistake, and they did what they had to do.

    Ultimately, warts and all due to a young team still finding their way, this was a great team win.

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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:06 pm

Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:08 pm
  • A must win for both teams, and we won in the end, in a game Russ didn't play his best .... but good enough, Defense came up big, despite secondary didn't play their best. So happy to see your DL sacked Aaron 5 times, that basically won the game for us.

    The pass three games showed that we could hang with the best teams, not bad for a rebuilding year.

    If this team somehow sneak into the playoff, we could surprise lots of folks. Young and motivated.

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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:10 pm
  • What surprised me were the 5 sacks...That's exactly what they need to do. I loved the D in the second half!!

    They finished today and angry Doug should have had 3 tds...All in all a good building block Game with no serious injuries... clutch performance...

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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:11 pm
  • It was good to get a win vs GB. They kind of pushed us around the last 3 times we played them (including a 38-10 shellacking in Lambeau).

    Including the playoffs, we have now won our last 4 at C Link vs the Pack.

    Really happy to see Russ not have any picks/lost fumbles. He has been a turnover machine against them.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:46 pm
  • But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:53 pm
  • Considering the rotten start with the fumble, the missed throws and short fields for the Packers, I thought it was a nice win.

    A lot of things weren't clicking, but defense stepped up repeatedly and the offense made some great drives.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:54 pm
  • Didn't expect a Carson fumble from jump, but yeah, it's always an odd game with them. Defense buckled down in the second half and they were able to chip away at it collectively.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:38 pm
  • I shared many of your feelings. Plenty of cursing at Russ, Carson for giving up an easy 7, etc. That said in games like these I’d rather make mistakes early than late. Our youth definitely showed, especially for such a big game

    As for sacking Rodgers 5 times, I don’t know if that says much about our pass rush. They played a solid game but Rodgers held the ball longer than arguably Wilson has at times. And took some silly sacks
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:10 am
  • This is the kind of win that can turn a season around. With all the talk of moral victories the last couple of weeks, this one really was. With everything that happened in that first quarter, the team fighting to get back in it and finally converting on a game winning drive.

    I wouldnt say it's Rams in 2004 or Bears in 2012. But it's probably the most galvanizing win since Steelers in 2015.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:23 am
  • chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)



    I was puzzled that he kept bringing that up. To me, he had control all the way through and it looked like it only bobbled around from hitting the ground, so obviously protected by the new rule.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:28 am
  • niveky wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)



    I was puzzled that he kept bringing that up. To me, he had control all the way through and it looked like it only bobbled around from hitting the ground, so obviously protected by the new rule.


    100% agree. Not sure why this is much of a debate. Given the nature of the new rule in regards to what constitutes a catch, that was a catch. I believe Mike's people told him as much from the booth, hence why it wasn't challenged.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:29 am
  • JGreen79 wrote:This is the kind of win that can turn a season around.
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    I wouldnt say it's Rams in 2004 or Bears in 2012. But it's probably the most galvanizing win since Steelers in 2015.


    Why not say it's as good as the Bears win in 2012? THAT was a galvanizing win. Led by Russell the rookie. THIS was a galvanizing win. Our defense led this one, with the power running game sealing the deal and creating time and space for Russell to complete key passes.

    We have such a TOUGH schedule this year. Still have KC and Carolina to cope with. The young guys are "getting it". What a great win. In hindsight we might well look back at this as a galvanizing win in a playoff season. Let's see how things go against KC and Carolina.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:31 am
  • Scorpion05 wrote:As for sacking Rodgers 5 times, I don’t know if that says much about our pass rush. They played a solid game but Rodgers held the ball longer than arguably Wilson has at times. And took some silly sacks


    Well... probably he was just trying to protect his passer rating (according to someone here that's why Russ takes sacks)
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:36 am
  • Refs trying to gift one to Erin (no offensive holds on GB? Really???), "those posters" showing up in droves here on Dot Net when we got behind, an asshole cheesewhizhead muscle bound server at the bar/restaurant where I tried to watch the game until I left at halftime (no tip for the food and beer), and an eventual epic win as predicted by me. Yup, just exactly what I expected. Oh, and 100 threads about how RW isn't worth all the money we aren't even paying him. Yup, those too.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:46 am
  • Watching Good Morning Football.

    I know this is a yuk it up show, but one of these knuckleheads said something that offered a little perspective. Instead of looking at this from a micro, nitpicking kind of way, he just took a big picture look at the Hawks.

    Instead of asking what the went wrong with the Packers, he focused on what went right with the Hawks. Instead of talking about the false starts, Carson’s fumble or RW being off, this team made clutch plays, ran the ball well, and just won the game.

    In fact, this should tell you how good this team is....because we still won DESPITE all those mistakes.

    And, let’s level set this with a reality check. I don’t care who the GM is, you don’t lose 6 pro bowl players on defense and not say it’s not a rebuild year. No one from the East coast expected this from Seattle this year because we were predicted to end up as a 3rd place team behind the Rams and “Jimmy GQ” led Niners team. The defense should be awful, yet this is a Top 10 defense, statistically. What running game? We’ve been lost for 2 years and we lead the league in rushing.

    This is a rebuild year yet we are still in the playoff hunt. He joked the NY Jets have been saying rebuilding year for decades and some are complaining about a 5-5, still in the playoff hunt rebuilding year?

    Haters will still hate, because, they don’t look at this from a glass half full or glass half empty perspective. No, they look at this as the glass is empty.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:17 am
  • chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)



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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:23 am
  • chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)


    It might not have been a catch. If the tables had turned, I would have wanted to challenge it. I think there was a good argument for both sides.

    McCarthy gave another good lesson on why you don't waste your timeouts early in the second half. Some things are really tough to see live and you need those challenges. Even if we got away with something, I'm not apologizing for it.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:29 am
  • Rat wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)


    It might not have been a catch. If the tables had turned, I would have wanted to challenge it. I think there was a good argument for both sides.

    McCarthy gave another good lesson on why you don't waste your timeouts early in the second half. Some things are really tough to see live and you need those challenges. Even if we got away with something, I'm not apologizing for it.


    The guys in Green Bay chat said the exact same thing about Time outs. Just another wasted timeout pretty much a couple of times and then the inability to challenge as you may actually need the TO at the end of the game. Interesting how things change but stay the same.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:33 am
  • We certainly got all the calls. It was weird. Kudos to the offensive line. Shutting the game down with the run like that is so great to see.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:08 am
  • Seahawkfan80 wrote:
    Rat wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)


    It might not have been a catch. If the tables had turned, I would have wanted to challenge it. I think there was a good argument for both sides.

    McCarthy gave another good lesson on why you don't waste your timeouts early in the second half. Some things are really tough to see live and you need those challenges. Even if we got away with something, I'm not apologizing for it.


    The guys in Green Bay chat said the exact same thing about Time outs. Just another wasted timeout pretty much a couple of times and then the inability to challenge as you may actually need the TO at the end of the game. Interesting how things change but stay the same.


    They showed one angle where you could see the ball touch the ground and move. But it would have been a close call. With the new rules, where you don't have to maintain control going to the ground, would they say he had possession when he hit the ground and was therefore down a that moment? If so, it was a catch. It didn't move until after he hit the ground. Also in light of the David Moore catch being called complete, which I really thought was going to be called incomplete, challenging the Locket catch would have been very risky, especially with one time out.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:34 am
  • olyfan63 wrote:
    JGreen79 wrote:This is the kind of win that can turn a season around.
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    I wouldnt say it's Rams in 2004 or Bears in 2012. But it's probably the most galvanizing win since Steelers in 2015.


    Why not say it's as good as the Bears win in 2012? THAT was a galvanizing win. Led by Russell the rookie. THIS was a galvanizing win. Our defense led this one, with the power running game sealing the deal and creating time and space for Russell to complete key passes.

    We have such a TOUGH schedule this year. Still have KC and Carolina to cope with. The young guys are "getting it". What a great win. In hindsight we might well look back at this as a galvanizing win in a playoff season. Let's see how things go against KC and Carolina.


    The Bears game was on the road against an 8-3 team with a Seattle team that was 0-6 on the road at the time. I look at those Bears and Rams games as franchise changing wins.

    I really hope this win will go that route, but I think its more of just a season changer. Once this team does it on the road against a solid team, everything will change.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:38 am
  • nanomoz wrote:We certainly got all the calls. It was weird. Kudos to the offensive line. Shutting the game down with the run like that is so great to see.


    Meh, refs missed some blatant holds from their offensive line
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:06 am
  • Speaking of calls, anyone think the Packers should have been flagged for false start on the Jones TD catch. On the Moore play that was over-turned and ruled a catch, if he hangs into it he only had 1 guy to beat didn't he to turn that into a 93 yard TD?
    As for the d-line calling out our cadence leading to the false starts, is that no illegal? Or one of those things it's never caught and it's up to our line to figure it out.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:52 pm
  • olyfan63 wrote:
    JGreen79 wrote:This is the kind of win that can turn a season around.
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    I wouldnt say it's Rams in 2004 or Bears in 2012. But it's probably the most galvanizing win since Steelers in 2015.


    Why not say it's as good as the Bears win in 2012? THAT was a galvanizing win. Led by Russell the rookie. THIS was a galvanizing win. Our defense led this one, with the power running game sealing the deal and creating time and space for Russell to complete key passes.

    We have such a TOUGH schedule this year. Still have KC and Carolina to cope with. The young guys are "getting it". What a great win. In hindsight we might well look back at this as a galvanizing win in a playoff season. Let's see how things go against KC and Carolina.



    I hope you are right about being a galvanizing win. It very well could be. Beating Aaron is never an easy thing to do regardless of their schedule.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:46 am
  • Aros wrote:
    niveky wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)



    I was puzzled that he kept bringing that up. To me, he had control all the way through and it looked like it only bobbled around from hitting the ground, so obviously protected by the new rule.


    100% agree. Not sure why this is much of a debate. Given the nature of the new rule in regards to what constitutes a catch, that was a catch. I believe Mike's people told him as much from the booth, hence why it wasn't challenged.

    It was clearly a catch without a doubt..He cradled it to the ground and yes it moved
    above his arm without ever touching the ground.The only thing I got from watching it is
    Buck needs to put his glasses on and shut the hell up instead of trying to create some
    drama sounding like the Hawks got lucky again.I cannot stand to listen to the guy who
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:56 am
  • Absolutely as expected, a close tough fought game. The team is better than some think and as well not yet as good as we’d like it to be. For a rebuilding team they looked pretty good at times and like a rebuilding team at others.

    Watching early game Russell, and then late game Russell were two different stories and the DBs certainly didn’t have a great game as when he had any time to throw Rodgers picked them apart and made them look weak. In the second half the D was winning at the LOS and not giving that time to an incredibly talented QB. The pass rush was fun to watch, in the 2nd half the DBs were also better too, several of the 5 sacks were coverage sacks. Wilson is talented, but he’s not Rodgers yet, but close at times without a doubt. If we could get 2nd half Wilson all game he’d be the best in the NFL.

    It is hard to remember they aren’t the former DB crew at times but Rodgers would have caused the LOB fits too. In the end I was pleased with the 2nd half play of the whole team. Wilson got his act together and our running game was simply special.

    I hope this win which was fought for mightily and deserved is a watershed moment for the team to now go on a multi-game tear beating Carolina, Minnie, and even KC. I truly expect the final three divisional games, tough as they always are, to all be Ws.

    A couple of Ws in a row now will make the season, especially Ws against Carolina and against Minnesota. Most of the games to go are now all must win contests.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:04 am
  • Up and down all year, exactly what many of us expected. Although, the running game success and how good this team is becoming is a surprise. Especially the running game, did not see that coming at all.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:10 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)

    Made up for the uncalled blatant hold on GB’s second TD.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Mon Nov 19, 2018 12:29 pm
  • sc85sis wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:But what about the Non Catch to Lockett, I am sure Buck is still trying to get that reviewed :)

    Made up for the uncalled blatant hold on GB’s second TD.


    In any game, there are going to be calls made and missed. Many of them. Most of the time they don't seem to matter much. Except in close games.

    And even then, fans of either side will cite missed calls on their team and not consider missed ones for the other.

    There were plenty of missed holds on Seattle on some of our bigger runs. And let's not forget that crappy hold call on GB on that 50 yard kickoff return. We'd have come unglued if that call was on us negating a big Lockett return.

    I didn't think Lockett's catch would have stood up to review. However it was plain to see how in real time that would have been ruled a catch. That was on GB for coaching scared. Something that has become an all too familiar hallmark of McCarthy's tenure there.

    You know Pete would have challenged that in a heartbeat if the situation was reversed.

    This game was exactly as expected. Two very close competitors familiar with one another. And deliciously dramatic -- complete with referee drama.
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Re: Pretty Much What We Expected, No?
Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:48 pm
  • FlyingGreg wrote:It was good to get a win vs GB. They kind of pushed us around the last 3 times we played them (including a 38-10 shellacking in Lambeau).

    Including the playoffs, we have now won our last 4 at C Link vs the Pack.

    Really happy to see Russ not have any picks/lost fumbles. He has been a turnover machine against them.


    Exactly. Russ has been great except when the games have mattered late this year. Two pick 6 and two strip sacks in the 4th.. lost em all.

    C'mon Russ.. ove you man.. 30m gotta get 1/2 those.
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