Wilson to ProBowl

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Kind of silly he wasn't added in the first place, but it'll be more fun to watch with him in it
 

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Was told that Matty Ice is also an alternate. Maybe he could get chosen too? THeir board does not say he was chosen yet and wonder the choosing process. Does anyone know how that process works? How do they choose the first or second alternate for the Pro Bowl?
 

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Wilson say no to a chance to play his favorite game?

Yeah, right.

:rofl: :laugh:
 

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The Pro Bowl is proof that you can get voted in simply based off of what you have done in the past (Rodgers) and not so much what you did in the current season (Wilson). It's terribly flawed and needs to be restructured if the NFL wishes for it to hold any real integrity.
 

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Aros":1g8w9irl said:
The Pro Bowl is proof that you can get voted in simply based off of what you have done in the past (Rodgers) and not so much what you did in the current season (Wilson). It's terribly flawed and needs to be restructured if the NFL wishes for it to hold any real integrity.

Why the real status for a player is All Pro, Coaches and peers rate you.
 

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chris98251":1v6pkkrn said:
Aros":1v6pkkrn said:
The Pro Bowl is proof that you can get voted in simply based off of what you have done in the past (Rodgers) and not so much what you did in the current season (Wilson). It's terribly flawed and needs to be restructured if the NFL wishes for it to hold any real integrity.

Why the real status for a player is All Pro, Coaches and peers rate you.


It has been this way for decades....nor is it likely to change.
 

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chris98251":aaqac9rq said:
Aros":aaqac9rq said:
The Pro Bowl is proof that you can get voted in simply based off of what you have done in the past (Rodgers) and not so much what you did in the current season (Wilson). It's terribly flawed and needs to be restructured if the NFL wishes for it to hold any real integrity.

Why the real status for a player is All Pro, Coaches and peers rate you.

Disagree.

First off they are not all that different in voting. 2nd, the "players" don't have the time to know the top players at every position much beyond the teams they come across playing them (they don't keep up on all player stats at all positions during the season they are playing in)

Pro Bowl voting is very similar to all pro just that an additional 1/3 goes to the fans.

Currently, players are voted into the Pro Bowl by the coaches, the players themselves, and the fans. Each group's ballots count for one third of the votes. The fans vote online at the NFL's official website. There are also replacements that go to the game should any selected player be unable to play due to injuries.
 

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Seymour":13n7o5kl said:
chris98251":13n7o5kl said:
Aros":13n7o5kl said:
The Pro Bowl is proof that you can get voted in simply based off of what you have done in the past (Rodgers) and not so much what you did in the current season (Wilson). It's terribly flawed and needs to be restructured if the NFL wishes for it to hold any real integrity.

Why the real status for a player is All Pro, Coaches and peers rate you.

Disagree.

First off they are not all that different in voting. 2nd, the "players" don't have the time to know the top players at every position much beyond the teams they come across playing them (they don't keep up on all player stats at all positions during the season they are playing in)

Pro Bowl voting is very similar to all pro just that an additional 1/3 goes to the fans.

Currently, players are voted into the Pro Bowl by the coaches, the players themselves, and the fans. Each group's ballots count for one third of the votes. The fans vote online at the NFL's official website. There are also replacements that go to the game should any selected player be unable to play due to injuries.

Fans know squat, all you have to do is look at the posts here from many, fire Pete, Fire Schotty, cut Wilson, All Pro is guys you play against, they also watch tape as do Coaches, I highly doubt you see a player that has been on IR all season as All Pro, happens all the time in the Pro Bowl, the numbers get pumped for the Fan experience obviously.
 

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Overstated. The fans can only effect 33.3% of the vote....period.

Sherman voted for Flacko his first year in top 100.....that is a fact. :roll:
 

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Seymour":35v7r1hd said:
Overstated. The fans can only effect 33.3% of the vote....period.

Prove it, the results show otherwise.

Why they have the Pro Bowl for Fans and the All Pro for Players and Coaches, why have two different ones if as you say they are just about the same.
 

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chris98251":27ha2vh6 said:
Seymour":27ha2vh6 said:
Overstated. The fans can only effect 33.3% of the vote....period.

Prove it, the results show otherwise.

Why they have the Pro Bowl for Fans and the All Pro for Players and Coaches, why have two different ones if as you say they are just about the same.

I already proved it with the quote on how voting is taken.
 

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Seymour":1xsulv5r said:
chris98251":1xsulv5r said:
Seymour":1xsulv5r said:
Overstated. The fans can only effect 33.3% of the vote....period.

Prove it, the results show otherwise.

Why they have the Pro Bowl for Fans and the All Pro for Players and Coaches, why have two different ones if as you say they are just about the same.

I already proved it with the quote on how voting is taken. Try reading much? :roll:

This is the problem.

Fan voting has increased criticism of the Pro Bowl. Voting by fans makes up 1/3 of the vote for Pro Bowl players. Some teams earn more selections of their players because fans often vote for their favorite team and not necessarily the best player. In the 2008 Pro Bowl, the Dallas Cowboys had thirteen players on the NFC roster, an NFL record. "If you're in a small market, no one really gets to see you play", said Minnesota Vikings cornerback Antoine Winfield, who spent much of his early career with the small-market Buffalo Bills. "If you're a quiet guy, it's hard to get the attention. You just have to work hard and play." Winfield made the Pro Bowl in 2008 after ten seasons of being shut out.[45]

The player voting has also been subject to significant criticism. It is not uncommon for players to pick the same players over and over again; former offensive lineman (and Sports Illustrated analyst) Ross Tucker has cited politics, incumbency, personal vendettas, and compensation for injury in previous years as primary factors in players' choices. Thus, players who have seen their play decline with age can still be perennially elected to the Pro Bowl due to their popularity among other players, something particularly common among positions such as the offensive line, where few statistics are available.[46] For example, in 2010, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs admitted voting for Ryan Fitzpatrick (then the backup quarterback of the Buffalo Bills) over eventual league most valuable player Tom Brady not because he thought Fitzpatrick was the better player but as a vote of disrespect toward Brady's team, the New England Patriots.[47]

Some players have had a surprisingly small number of Pro Bowl selections despite distinguished careers. Hall of Fame running back John Riggins was selected only once in his career from 1971 to 1985. He was not selected in the year after which he set the record for rushing touchdowns in a season and his team made it to the Super Bowl (although he did make the All-Pro team). Hall of Fame linebacker Ray Nitschke only made the Pro Bowl once, despite being named All-Pro seven times and being the MVP of the 1962 NFL Championship Game. Defensive back Ken Riley never made the Pro Bowl in his 15 seasons, even though he recorded 65 interceptions, the fourth-highest total in NFL history at the time of his retirement. Former Jacksonville Jaguars halfback Fred Taylor, who is 15th in all-time rushing yards, was elected to his only Pro Bowl in 2007, despite averaging 4.6 yards per carry for his career, better than all but five running backs ranked in the top 30 in all-time rushing. Aaron Smith made it to the Pro Bowl once in 13 years (2004) despite winning two Super Bowl rings with the Pittsburgh Steelers and being named to the Sports Illustrated 2000s All Decade Team, despite defensive teammates such as Troy Polamalu, Casey Hampton, and James Harrison being named to multiple Pro Bowls during his career; Smith would often be ranked as one of the NFL's most underrated players during his career.[48]

Long snappers are picked by the coaches and not voted on at all. They are not allowed to play on their own coach's team.
 

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Thanks for proving the fans can only effect 33.3% of the vote then. :roll:
 

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Seymour":2e74o42d said:
Thanks for proving the fans can only effect 33.3% of the vote then. :roll:


You win the Booby PRIZE, the point is the fans vote and skew it, when you have a online voting machine and 10 million vote and 300 coaches vote which weighs more? The popularity contest of 10 million or the difference of the 300 coaches and 1200 players?
 
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