Jacob Martin has potential

ivotuk · Jul 9, 2019

Dave Wyman said he can "bend the corner at a 45 kind of like Rufus Porter."

Pete said his "pressure ratio" was very good. He didn't play a lot, only had 9 tackles, but had 3 sacks. That may seem like a low number, but Pete requires disciplined play, which means some people don't get that much opportunity to make the tackle, but if they do their job, they funnel the play in to the people who do make all the tackles.

Here's some links to past Seahawks that have played well in this system, and how they started out. Plus Rufus Porter.

Jacob Martin 4 years at Temple 44 solo tackles, 80 Total Tackles, 18 TFL, 11.5 Sacks.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/pl ... tin-1.html

Jacob Martin 1st year 9/3

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... rtJa02.htm

Rufus Porter 1st year 17/0 2nd year 49/10.5

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... rtRu00.htm

Cliff Avril 1st year 22 combined tackles, 5 sacks

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... riCl99.htm

Michael Bennett 1st year 3 combined tackles, 1 sack
2nd year 15/1

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... nnMi99.htm

Frank Clark 1st year 16 Combined tackles, 3 sacks

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... arFr01.htm

ivotuk · Jul 9, 2019

BROCK AND SALK - July 8, 2019 - Hour 2

W/Jake Heaps

Jake and Salk review the Mariners as they reach the All-Star break: what are the best and worst thing about this season so far?

Most Intriguing Seahawks: #13 Jacob Martin is discussed. Is he a legitimate part of the solution to replace Frank Clark?

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ApnaHawk · Jul 9, 2019

Potential : the most over rated word in the English dictionary.

McGruff · Jul 9, 2019

ApnaHawk":3a6kby3k said:
Potential : the most over rated word in the English dictionary.

Yeah, I get it.

But every great person had potential for greatness that was unrealized.

Martin showed some things late in the season that pointed towards an upward trajectory. There are reasons for optimism.

Uncle Si · Jul 9, 2019

McGruff":4r4q92ck said:
ApnaHawk":4r4q92ck said:

Potential : the most over rated word in the English dictionary.

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Yeah, I get it.

But every great person had potential for greatness that was unrealized.

Martin showed some things late in the season that pointed towards an upward trajectory. There are reasons for optimism.

Still not liking the depth anywhere outside linebacker on the defensive side of the ball.

Potential in lots of places but thought some of the extra cap space would lead to vet adds

McGruff · Jul 9, 2019

Uncle Si":4dsa7sdy said:
McGruff":4dsa7sdy said:

ApnaHawk":4dsa7sdy said:

Potential : the most over rated word in the English dictionary.

Click to expand...

Yeah, I get it.

But every great person had potential for greatness that was unrealized.

Martin showed some things late in the season that pointed towards an upward trajectory. There are reasons for optimism.

Click to expand...

Still not liking the depth anywhere outside linebacker on the defensive side of the ball

Yeah, it's a whole bunch of unknowns.

But that's where we were in 2012 too.

I prefer unknowns with potential over declining facts.

Uncle Si · Jul 9, 2019

McGruff":2hzj4t6e said:
Uncle Si":2hzj4t6e said:

McGruff":2hzj4t6e said:

ApnaHawk":2hzj4t6e said:

Potential : the most over rated word in the English dictionary.

Click to expand...

Yeah, I get it.

But every great person had potential for greatness that was unrealized.

Martin showed some things late in the season that pointed towards an upward trajectory. There are reasons for optimism.

Click to expand...

Still not liking the depth anywhere outside linebacker on the defensive side of the ball

Click to expand...

Yeah, it's a whole bunch of unknowns.

But that's where we were in 2012 too.

I prefer unknowns with potential over declining facts.

True... and the team seems willing to build rather than buy, with targeting 2020 as the big year.

12AngryHawks · Jul 9, 2019

MB12 · Jul 10, 2019

Given Martin was rumored to be playing at 220lb at the end of the year, I really can't see him being more than a pass-rush specialist in Seattle's system. And that's fine! He's surprisingly technical and brings a speed element that is lacking amongst the other pass rushers, even if he lacks bend for his profile.

If you look at the Seahawks' additions, Martin will likely be tossed into the pass rush rotation and receive most of his playing time on passing downs or 3rd downs. The pressure numbers will likely be high again. I just feel his size will always limit his playing time and thus his potential -- even with defenses getting lighter.

Tical21 · Jul 10, 2019

MB12":wl5j126j said:
Given Martin was rumored to be playing at 220lb at the end of the year, I really can't see him being more than a pass-rush specialist in Seattle's system. And that's fine! He's surprisingly technical and brings a speed element that is lacking amongst the other pass rushers, even if he lacks bend for his profile.

If you look at the Seahawks' additions, Martin will likely be tossed into the pass rush rotation and receive most of his playing time on passing downs or 3rd downs. The pressure numbers will likely be high again. I just feel his size will always limit his playing time and thus his potential -- even with defenses getting lighter.

Is he bendy? I thought I heard somewhere that he wasn't.

McGruff · Jul 10, 2019

Tical21":9hchr1r1 said:
MB12":9hchr1r1 said:

Given Martin was rumored to be playing at 220lb at the end of the year, I really can't see him being more than a pass-rush specialist in Seattle's system. And that's fine! He's surprisingly technical and brings a speed element that is lacking amongst the other pass rushers, even if he lacks bend for his profile.

If you look at the Seahawks' additions, Martin will likely be tossed into the pass rush rotation and receive most of his playing time on passing downs or 3rd downs. The pressure numbers will likely be high again. I just feel his size will always limit his playing time and thus his potential -- even with defenses getting lighter.

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Is he bendy? I thought I heard somewhere that he wasn't.

The poster said he lacks bend.

Tical21 · Jul 10, 2019

McGruff":nbg4kl8c said:
Tical21":nbg4kl8c said:

MB12":nbg4kl8c said:

Given Martin was rumored to be playing at 220lb at the end of the year, I really can't see him being more than a pass-rush specialist in Seattle's system. And that's fine! He's surprisingly technical and brings a speed element that is lacking amongst the other pass rushers, even if he lacks bend for his profile.

If you look at the Seahawks' additions, Martin will likely be tossed into the pass rush rotation and receive most of his playing time on passing downs or 3rd downs. The pressure numbers will likely be high again. I just feel his size will always limit his playing time and thus his potential -- even with defenses getting lighter.

Click to expand...

Is he bendy? I thought I heard somewhere that he wasn't.

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The poster said he lacks bend.

Oops! Yeah, i can read! But Wyman says he can bend the corner. Hmmm, MB or Wyman??

McGruff · Jul 10, 2019

Wyman 8s a bit of a zealous homer, but he knows his stuff.

SoulfishHawk · Jul 10, 2019

He does know his stuff. I'll take the opinion a 9 year NFL vet over a poster on a message board any day.

Tical21 · Jul 10, 2019

I'd actually probably take the opinion of MB over someone who probably has spent almost no time breaking down Jacob Martin tape.

Jacob Martin has potential

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