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  • 2020 Seahawks


    Depth Chart, Roster Moves, Cap Position since the Super Bowl

    The team usually makes close to 300 roster moves/season ( last year 261 ); the depth chart changes as injuries happen and/or players are added or subtracted as needed. I believe having a depth chart here is a good addition to the main board page so when the team changes players, knowing their player numbers, their names, and positional information is a good thing to be able to quickly refer to here without leaving the site. JS likes to churn the roster a bit to help the competitive situations at various positions.

    Here below is a current depth chart. I will record each transaction in and out as they happen. This depth chart is just my opinion, feel free to comment or suggest changes. Comments here are welcomed, this thread is supposed to be informative but ialso to encourage roster discussion. The plan is to record all forthcoming roster moves and to adjust the DC as the roster changes are made.

    Please advise here of any changes as they happen. The usual dependable members always assist but everyone should feel completely free to report changes to the roster here when they happen, be careful as sometimes the media gets the story wrong though or the source proves unreliable. All assistance is greatly appreciated and allows us to have an accurate and up to date DC here. I will attempt to keep this depth chart current quickly after all changes, PS designations, waivers, cuts, additions, players claimed, PUP or injury designations, etc.. I will also attempt to keep it current throughout the season by indicating what the roster moves were after they happen. This sometimes involves a delay, sometimes life intervenes, and the delay may result in the update being slower to happen. However, I will make every effort to keep this page current. This hopefully will be a complete record.

    I will also update the presently available cap number on a weekly basis, or as quickly as information can be obtained from https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks/. Their number can be seen at the bottom of the page.

    Here is the roster from Seahawks.com: http://www.seahawks.com/team/roster

    Here also a DC from the team: http://www.seahawks.com/team/depth-chart It's not usually posted until after training camp.

    Color Codes

    - (White) Player already on team from last season, or added with futures deal (F) before FA or the draft

    - (Green) Players from the team who were UFAs (U), RFAs (R), or ERFAs (E) in 2019

    - (Italics) Note:Player who were FAs or players on 1 yr. deals, or in the last year of their present deal (as italicized). Where a player is from the outside the player may also have an appropriately colored designation.

    - (Red) Player added in FA or claimed as a FA or as a veteran waived player

    - (Blue) Player added in Draft

    - (Electric Green) UDFA player added after the draft

    - (Underlined) Player renewed before/after contract expired

    - (Yellow) Player acquired by trade


    PRESENT ROSTER under contract


    OFFENSE (26)

    QB- 3- Russell Wilson (O Captain), 7- Geno Smith,

    RB- 32- Chris Carson, 30- Carlos Hyde, 25- Travis Homer, 31- DeeJay Dallas,

    FB- 44- Nick Bellore,

    WR- 14- D.K. Metcalf, 83- David Moore, 18- Freddie Swain,

    WR- 16- Tyler Lockett, 11- Phillip Dorsett, 19- Penny Hart,

    LT- 76- Duane Brown, 74- Cedric Ogbuehi,

    LG- 70- Mike Iupati,

    OC- 67- B J Finney, 77- Ethan Pocic,

    RG- 68- Damien Lewis, 66- Jordan Simmons,

    RT- 72- Brandon Shell, 73- Jamarco Jones,

    TE-88- Greg Olsen, 89- Will Dissly, (F), 86- Jacob Hollister, 82- Luke Willson,

    DEFENCE (25)

    LDE- 91- L.J. Collier, 94- Rasheem Green, 99- Damontre Moore,

    LDT- 90- Jarran Reed, 79- Bryan Mone,

    RDT- 97- Poona Ford, 63- Anthony Rush

    RDE- 95- Benson Mayowa, 98- Alton Robinson, u/k- D'Andre Walker,

    SOLB- 51- Bruce Irvin, 57- Cody Barton,

    MLB- 54- Bobby Wagner (D Captain),

    WOLB- 50- KJ Wright, 56- Jordyn Brooks, 55- Ben Burr-Kirven,

    LCB- 26- Shaquill Griffin, 23- Nieko Thorpe (ST Captain),

    RCB- 21- Tre Flowers, 22- Quinton Dunbar,

    FS- 37- Quandre Diggs, 28- Ugochukwu Amadi,

    SS- 33- Jamal Adams, 27- Marquise Blair, 42- Lano Hill,

    SPECIAL TEAMS (3)

    PK- 5- Jason Myers,

    P- 4- Michael Dickson,

    LS- 69- Tyler Ott,

    TOTAL = - 54 -

    PRACTICE SQUAD (16)

    1. OLB- 49- Shaquem Griffin,
    2. DE- 75- Cedrick Lattimore,
    3. WR- 2- Aaron Fuller,
    4. WR- 15- John Ursua,
    5. OT- 79- Tommy Champion,
    6. CB- 9- Gavin Heslop,
    7. DT- 67- Demarcus Christmas,
    8. TE- 85- Tyler Mabry,
    9. FS- 35-Ryan Neal,
    10. CB- 1- Jayson Stanley,
    11. QB- 2- Danny Etling,
    12. TE- 87- Stephen Sullivan,
    13. WR- 81- Cody Thomson,
    14. OT- 75- Chad Wheeler,
    15.
    16. CB- 34- Linden Stephens,


    INJURED RESERVE (IR), (IRr) = Injured Reserve returnable, PUP (PUP), WAIVED INJURED (WI), INJURED RESERVED DESIGNATED RECALL (IRDR), Non-football Injury (NFI), Reserve Did Not Report (RDNR), COVID opt out (CO), Suspended, COVID Reserve (COR)
    1. OG- 65- Chance Warmack, (CO), his contract tolls to next season
    2. LB- 52- Emmanuel Ellerbee, (WI), unclaimed, reverts to (IR)
    3. OC- 61- Kyle Fuller, (SUS- 2 games)
    4. DE- 93- Branden Jackson, (IR)
    5. RB- 20- Rashaad Penny, (PUP),
    6. CB- 39- D.J. Reed, (NFI)
    7. TE- 84- Colby Parkinson, (NFI)
    8. DE- 58- Darrell Taylor (NFI),
    9. WR- 10- Josh Gordon (U), (SUS- Commish List pending re-instatement)
    10. OG- 60- Phil Haynes, (IR)

    Traded, Cut/Released (C), Waived (W), Injury Settlement(WIS) (several players may have multiple moves)
    1. FS- 33- Tedric Thompson, (W)
    2. TE- 84- Ed Dickson IR, (C), failed physical
    3. WR- 8- Malik Turner (E), re-signed, ERFA tender rescinded, player is now a FA
    4. OC- 68- Justin Britt IR, released, failed physical
    5. OG- 78- DJ Fluker, released, now signed with the Ravens
    6. RB- 38- Adam Choice IR, (W)
    7. DT- 58- Shakir Soto (F), (W)
    8. OLB- 59- Pita Taumoepenu (F) (W), re-signed, (W)
    9. DT/DE- 92- Nazair Jones IR, (W), failed physical
    10. TE- 86- Justin Johnson IR, (W), failed physical
    11. OG- 63- Demetrius Knox IR, (W)
    12. SS- 30- Bradley McDougald, traded to the Jets for Jamal Adams. The team also traded a 2021- 1st and a 2021- 3rd along with a 2022- 1st round pick and got back a 2022 4th round pick
    13. OC- 53- Joey Hunt, released
    14. DE- 93- Branden Jackson, released, re-signed, IR
    15. RB- u/k- Patrick Carr, (W), re-signed, (WI)
    16. WR- 13- Seth Dawkins, (W), re-signed, (W)
    17. OG- 62- Kahlil McKenzie, (W)
    18. DB- 41- Josh Norwood, (W)
    19. OG- 64- Jordan Roos, (W)
    20. OLB- 47- Sutton Smith (F), (W)
    21. TE- 46- Dominick Wood-Anderson, (W)
    22. LB- 52- Emmanuel Ellerbee, (WI), reverts to IR
    23. DT- 63- Josh Avery, (WI)
    24. RB- 36- Anthony Jones, (W)
    25. CB- 40- Brian Allen (F), (W)
    26. CB- 8- Kemah Siverand, (W)
    27. DE- 48- Marcus Webb, (W)
    28. OLB/DE- 43- Eli Mencer, (WI)
    29. FB- 44- Nick Bellore, Released, re-signed
    30 OT- 79- Tommy Champion, (W), -> PS
    31. DT- 67- Demarcus Christmas, (W), -> PS
    32. QB- 10- Danny Etling, (W), -> PS
    33. WR- 2- Aaron Fuller, (W), -> PS
    34. QB- 6- Anthony Gordon, (W)
    35. OLB- 49- Shaquem Griffin, (W), -> PS
    36. WR- 19- Penny Hart (F), (W), -> PS, -> 53
    37. CB- 9- Gavin Heslop, (W), -> PS
    38. DT- 78- PJ Johnson, (W)
    39. WR- 13- Lance Lenoir, (W), -> PS, (W)
    40. TE- 85- Tyler Mabry, (W), -> PS
    41. SS- 33- Chris Miller, (W)
    42. CB- 35-Ryan Neal, (W), -> PS
    43. FS- 38- Debione Renfro, (W)
    44. CB- 1- Jayson Stanley, (W), -> PS
    45. TE- 87- Stephen Sullivan, (W), -> PS
    46. WR- 81- Cody Thomson (F), (W), -> PS
    47. WR- 8- Paul Richardson, Released
    48. OT- 75- Chad Wheeler, (W), -> PS
    49- DE- 75- Cedrick Lattimore, (W), -> PS
    50. CB- 34- Linden Stephens, (W), -> PS
    51. WR- 15- John Ursua, (W), -> PS

    TEAM FREE AGENTS (32)

    -Exclusive Rights Free Agents (8) The team has 8 ERFAs which could be counted as signed as no other team can sign them until the team elects not to re-sign them.
    WR- 8- Malik Turner (E), re-signed, ERFA tender rescinded, player is now a UFA
    OC- 64- Jordan Roos (E), re-signed
    OG- 66- Jordan Simmons (E), re-signed
    TE- 46- Tyrone Swoopes (E),
    CB- 35-Ryan Neal (E), re-signed
    CB- 1- Jeremy Boykins (E),IR
    OLB- 52- Emmanuel Ellerbee (E), IR, re-signed to re-negotiated contract 11/3/20
    DT- 79- Bryan Mone (E), re-signed

    -Restricted Free Agents (5) The team has 5 RFAs.
    WR- 83- David Moore (R), 7th rd., tendered @ original rd., $2.133 M., now signed
    TE- 48- Jacob Hollister (R), undrafted, tendered @ 2nd rd. level, $3.259 M, now signed
    OC- 53- Joey Hunt (R), 6th rd., tendered @ original rd., $2.133 M, now signed
    DE- 93- Brandon Jackson (R), undrafted, tendered @original rd., $2.133 M, now signed
    CB- 39- Kalan Reed (R), IR 7th rd.

    -Unrestricted Free Agents (19) There are 19 UFAs many of whom won't be back.
    QB- 7- Geno Smith (U), re-signed terms as yet u/k
    RB- 24- Marshawn Lynch (U),
    RB- 34- Robert Turbin (U),
    WR- 18- Jaron Brown (U),
    OT- 74- George Fant (U), signs with Jets 3 yrs. $30 million/ $13.7 million guaranteed
    OG- 70- Mike Iupati (U), re-signed, terms u/k
    OT- 65- Germain Ifedi (U), signs with Bears 1yr./ terms u/k
    TE- 82- Luke Willson (U), re-signed 1yr./terms u/k
    DE- 90- Jadeveon Clowney (U),
    DE- 99- Quinton Jefferson (U), agrees with Bills 2 yrs. $13.r mil
    DT- 72- Al Woods (U) re-instated from SUS, signs with Jax
    DT- 91- Jarran Reed (U), re-signed two-year, $23 million, $14.1 M gtd.
    DE- 94- Ezekiel 'Zigggy' Ansah (U),
    DE- 51- Dekoda Watson (U), re-signed w. futures deal, now waived
    CB- 36- Akeem King (U),
    CB- 23- Nieko Thorpe (ST Captain) (U) IR, re-signed, $1,050,000 million base with $137,500 SB, contract value is $1,135 M, cap number is $887,500
    WR- 10- Josh Gordon (U), (SUS- indef) re-signed apparently 1 yr. I million
    RB- 22- CJ Prosise (U) IR,
    OLB- 56- Mychal Kendricks U), IR


    FREE AGENTS ACQUIRED

    Unrestricted Free Agents
    TE- 88- Greg Olsen, 1year, $7 million $5.5 million guaranteed (player doesn't count in comp pick calculations)
    G/C- 67- B J Finney, 2 yrs. $8 mil/$2 mil. gtd. plus per game incentives or RB of $1 mil
    DE- 51- Bruce Irvin, 1 year, $2M signing bonus; $2.5M base salary (guaranteed); $500K roster bonus (which was owed on the fifth day of the league year); $500K available in per-game roster bonuses; $500K available in LTBE incentives, counts $5.9 mil.
    OT- 72- Brandon Shell, 2 yrs. $11 mil./2020: $2.5m base, $2m SB., 2021: $3.075m base, $425k in per game RBs.
    OT- 74- Cedric Ogbuehi, 1yr. /$2.3M with $500K gtd SB, $500K / in game RB
    OG- 65- Chance Warmack, 1 yr./$910K base; $25K roster bonus plus per-game roster bonuses $7K apiece. No SB no gtd $. player doesn't count in comp calculations
    WR- 11- Phillip Dorsett, 1-yr./ $877,500/$137,500 SB
    DE- 99- Benson Mayowa, 1 yr./$3 M plus incentives of up to $1M
    OG- 62- Kahlil McKenzie, 1yr. /terms u/k
    CB- 35- Linden Stephens, claimed off waivers from Miami.
    CB/WR- 1- Jayson Stanley, claimed off waivers from Jax
    RB- 30- Carlos Hyde, 1 yr. terms u/k (believed to be up to $ 4 mil. including incentives)
    DB- 39- D.J. Reed, claimed off waivers from SF
    DT- 78- PJ Johnson, terms u/k
    QB- !0- Danny Etling, waiver claim from Falcons, terms u/k
    WR- 8- Paul Richardson, believed to be 1 year $1 mil., $67,500 roster bonus if on 53
    WR- 13- Lance Lenoir, terms u/k
    DT- u/k- u/k- Anthony Rush, -> PS claimed off waivers from the Raiders
    DE- u/k- D'Andre Walker, claimed off waivers from the Titans


    Players Drafted
    7 draft picks to begin with for Trader John, last year it was only 4 that turned into 10. The number assumes the team will get 3 comp picks. The team started with 6 picks in the first 144 of the draft. Eight picks made, 5 on O, 3 on D.

    Round 1 (1)
    Pick #27- OLB- Jordyn Brooks, TX Tech, signed

    Round 2 (1)
    Pick #48- DE/OLB- Darrell Taylor, Tenn., signed
    Pick # 59-Traded to the Jets along with Pick #101for Pick #48
    Pick # 64 from KC via SF (Clark )- Traded to the Panthers for Picks #69, & #148 (5th)

    Round 3 (1)
    Pick #69 from the Panthers- OG- Damien Lewis, LSU, signed
    Pick #91 traded to Houston (Clowney)
    Compensatory Pick #101 - traded to the Jets as part of trade for Pick #48

    Round 4 (2)
    Pick #133 - TE-- Colby Parkinson, Stanford, signed
    Compensatory Pick #144 - RB- DeeJay Dallas, Miami, signed

    Round 5 (1)
    Pick # 148 from the Panthers- DE- Alton Robinson, Syracuse, signed
    Pick #162 from Pittsburgh (Vannett), now traded to Washington for CB- Quinton Dunbar,
    Pick #172 traded to Detroit (Diggs)

    Round 6 (1)
    Pick #206 traded to Jax (Ursua)
    Compensatory Pick # 214 - WR- Freddie Swain, Florida, signed

    Round 7(1)
    Pick #251- From Dolphins for 2012 6th Rd. pick, WR/TE- Stephen Sullivan, LSU
    Pick # 241 - traded to NE (Hollister)


    Undrafted Free Agents

    Confirmed signed by the team:
    1. QB- Anthony Gordon, Washington State,
    2. DE- Eli Mencer, Albany, (WI)
    3. WR- Aaron Fuller, Washington,
    4. OT- Tommy Champion, Mississippi State,
    5. DB- Debione Renfro, Texas A&M,
    6. DT- Josh Avery, Southeast Missouri State, (WI)
    7. WR- Seth Dawkins, Louisville, (W), re-signed
    8. DT- Marcus Webb, Troy, (WI)
    9. FS- Chris Miller, Baylor,
    10. TE- Tyler Mabry, Maryland,
    11. CB- Kemah Siverand, Oklahoma State, (W)
    12. CB- Gavin Heslop, Stony Brook,
    13. RB- Anthony Jones, FIU, (W)
    14. DT- Cedrick Lattimore, Iowa,
    15. TE- Dominick Wood-Anderson, Tenn., (W)
    16. RB- Patrick Carr, Houston, (W), re-signed
    17. FS- Josh Norwood, West Virginia, (W)


    Players obtained via Trade
    CB- 22- Quinton Dunbar, received from Redskins for 5th rd. pick #162 ! yr./$3.4 M
    SS- 33- Jamal Adams, SS- 30- Bradley McDougald, traded to the Jets for Jamal Adams. The team traded SS- Bradley McDougald plus a 2021 1st and a 2021 3rd along with a 2022 1st round pick and got back a 2022 4th round pick


    Transaction number (Following The Super Bowl LIII, and all roster moves ),

    = -139- since the beginning of free agency


    Present Available Cap Number for 2020 as per OTC.com = $6, 485,131 https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks/


    As well here is a CAP calculator for NFL teams for creating 'what if' scenarios.
    http://overthecap.com/calculator/seattle-seahawks/
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  • Important league dates for this season (courtesy of http://www.Seahawks.com)

    Dates prior to September 5th, have been deleted as most of them were changed b/c of COVID

    - Sept. 5: Teams reduce rosters to 53 players.

    - Sept. 6th, 4 p,m. ET end of claiming waived players, and commencement of PS assignment.

    - Sept. 10, 13-14: 2020 regular season begins. Look for the NFL schedule expected to be announced May 9th.

    - To be announced: NFL Trading Deadline 2020.

    - January 3, 2021, Regular season ends

    - January 9, 2021, Playoffs begin

    - January 31, 2021, Pro Bowl

    - February 7, 2021, Super Bowl LV, Raymond James Stadium, Tampa, Florida


    As the season progresses and the announcements are made about trading deadlines I will post those dates here. There may also be further changes caused by the state of COVID infection uptake.
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  • Saved for future needs.
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  • Looking at the roster with all the FA removed there are three areas of the team that look to be areas of significant need. Those are OT, DLine, and CB. The DLine depth is almost critically weak. To me the depth at other positions could be improved those are notably: C, G, WR, & TE.

    I could see the team moving on from Britt as a cap move, and letting KJ wright go as well. There are a few others as well. I do think the team will try to keep some of the DE depth but the interior OLIne is critically depleted.

    This will be an interesting offseason personnel wise as the team has some cap flexibility again and could be players in FA. There is no reason other than the terms of the deal negotiated for Clowney not to be kept.
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  • Don't forget to pin this. :mrgreen:
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  • Thanks for that, I missed doing that but had to deal with some family stuff, and was catching it for being on the computer too long. Looks like another attentive mod pinned it for me.

    Quick look at the roster shows some pretty obvious areas where depth needs to be either retained or acquired. Looks like priorities will be DLine and OLine. To me it also seems clear there will need to be some others areas of needed acquisition like WR and CB.
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  • I'm showing 5 restricted free agents. Joey Hunt and Branden Jackson plus Kalan Reed (who I think his career is over).

    Also -- I think Bryan Mone is an EFA not that it matters much he'll be back either way.

    The one guy I don't know what's going on with is Nick Bellore. If you'll recall he was cut and then re-signed at the end of camp. OTC is still showing him under his 2 year contract. I asked Jason but didn't hear back. Jaron Brown was the same deal and he's a UFA so I kind of think Bellore is the same deal but just something to look out for as we get closer to free agency.

    Nick at OTC right now is predicting 3 compensatory picks instead of 4. Official list should be out in a few weeks.

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    As for salary cap stuff....

    I took the OTC salary cap figures and made a few adjustments:

    -- First, i added the "proven performance esclator" to the 4th year of the rookie contracts for Chris Carson, Tedrick Thompson and Shaquill Griffin.

    -- I added RFA tenders to Hunt, Hollilster and Moore. I also assumed EFA tenders for all the guys on the list at their current minimum salary.

    -- I assumed Ed Dickson will be cut at some point. There are a couple of other possible "cap casualties" but i think we can all agree Dickson will not be back at his same salary if at all.

    After all of that, the available cap i see is about $49M. Right now that's just a hypothetical figure as lots can change and the league-wide cap hasn't been made official yet. We'll also have to account for draft picks at some point. But when I think about what they have to spend, my mindset is at around $40M, not the $60M++ others are talking about. That's still a lot of opportunity to beef up the roster.
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  • 'Storian, I used the below site for our FAs:

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents ... -seahawks/

    It's possible Hunt is a RFA though as he was a ERFA last season. The others are UFAs except for Bellore who has another year on his deal to go, the team renewed the contract they had with him after he was cut and then returned.

    I just don't know that the team will return all of the ERFAs but is they do the team has 56 players under contract prior to FA and the draft.

    They always seem to be able to get quantity of players but presently with the obvious DLine and OLine issues quality will come with some expense.I think you are more right than OTC is about the real available cap number but we need to have a consistent source and OTC is usually pretty dependable.

    With the available money to spend and the potential cap cuts and limited areas needing improvement the roster will potentially be beefed up.
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  • I find OTC more reliable than Spotrac. I use a combination of OTC and Rostermon to gather data.

    For example: Joey Hunt

    http://rostermon.com/player/6197/

    He only has 3 accrued seasons, even though he's been on the roster 4 years. In 2017 he was on the PS until Dec 5 -- but because he was on the active roster less than 6 weeks he didn't accrue that season, thus he is an RFA not UFA.

    Branden Jackson didn't accrue his first year with Oakland for the same reason. He is an RFA.
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  • OK, I'll adjust those those. OTC says Hunt is UFA and so is Jackson, but you are wise with this stuff and will defer to your expertise.
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  • Presently I'm having secure connectivity problems with OTC.com, very intermittent.

    I've been using their info all year long and noted the FA status of each player as per their info, so that must have changed recently. Not to worry, we are trying to get this info right.

    In terms of Mone I can't see him as a ERFA he was a UDFA starting this last season.

    Will adjust on the others.
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  • If you look at the roster with the FAs pulled from it there are still a few guys who may not be on the team next season for performance and cap reasons.

    My suspicion is the following are going to be looked at hard for cost benefit reasons or may be cap casualties.:

    OC - Britt, recovering from serious injury, pretty expensive and aging with quality replacements available in the draft.
    OC/OG- Pocic, is just not a people mover. However, he could be renegotiated and extended freeing cap.
    TE- Dickson, he's done, his knees are shot.

    DE/DT- Jones, don't know he wants to be here and can't seem to compete
    OLB- Wright, just love this player but his knees are limiting his speed so he's edge vulnerable to speed backs and TEs
    FS- Thompson, he's a backup level player with lots of competition from better younger players on the roster.
    SS- Hill, can't stay healthy, is a weak tackler and is just slow as heck

    PK- Myers, pretty inconsistent for the $ he's making though dead cap may keep him around


    I doubt the following UFAs are kept:

    WR- Brown, got beaten out by younger less costly players
    RB- Turbin, thanks for being a late roster stopgap fill in
    OG- Iupati, he's never healthy anymore
    OT- Ifedi is a penalty and drive killer who won't get the offer he thinkshe should get from the team
    DT- Reed, because he will want more than the team will offer
    DE- Ansah, always hurt, unreliable for the $
    DE- Watson, was a roster fill-in
    CB- Thorpe, two seasons in a row he's been hurt and missed significant time, is a ST star but can no longer be depended upon.
    RB- Prosise, 4 years of significant unavailabilty to one injury or another, when he was needed he let the team down, no reward for signing him back.

    or the following:
    RFA- CB- Kalan Reed
    ERFA- LB- Ellerbee

    As Hawkstorian has mentioned above, the true available cap after the RFAs and ERFAs are re-signed and all performance based raises are paid will likely be less than $45 Million. That's still enough to build some depth that can stay healthy and improve both the OLine and the DLine.

    At the end the team ended the season pretty nicked up and there will be some positions where fresh faces will be needed to prevent repeating the same. There will also need to be a revisiting of several defensive schemes as the team seemed vulnerable on the edges. Further this last year's team tackled poorly and gave up far to many yards after initial contact. There are coaching issues therein, but there are personnel issues implicit in this observation.
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  • Since we're talking about salary cap stuff -- I think it's good to look at the 2021 free agents who might be in line for new deals this off-season. It really comes down to two key guys -- Chris Carson and Shaquill Griffin. Under normal circumstances that would be candidates for extensions. I'm just not sure how eager players will be to sign new deals while the CBA is under negotiation. Interesting times.
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  • I suspect there is too much money on the table for all to be wanting to fight at length about the implementation of a new CBA.

    Don't think creating the new deal will be as fractious as last time. That's JMO and it is certainly a worthwhile situation to be concerned about though.
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  • Now I may be skewed because the Hawks obviously hit gold in 2011-2012 with their drafting, it's unrealistic to find that much amazing talent in the rounds they did. But I feel like the past 5 years or so, outside of maybe 1-2 Marquee players, a lot of the Hawks drafting has ended up with so-so players, players who can't stay healthy, players who take themselves out of the NFL before they even play, and possibly players who have other off-field issues. I don't know what the issue is, is it just because the team competes year after year and now drafts at the bottom? is it truly just garbage luck because who can predict the injuries and off-field stuff? Either way from my casual fan standpoint it seems like the poor drafting has been the thing really preventing the Hawks from getting over the hump.
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  • Zag, that's certainly a view that others here have as well. I don't completely agree however as the team has drafted some pretty capable players in the last few drafts, but there have been a few significant fails as well. If it were easy to always draft good players there would be no busts. Very often what a player accomplished in college simply doesn't translate as a pro for any number of reasons.

    Frequently as well this is a situation where how good the players are that were drafted is a matter of personal opinion. I'm rather sure there is divergence of opinion about CB- Shaquill Griffin for example, Many here think he's of dubious quality as a CB yet the league has asked him to be an alternate to Sherman in the Pro Bowl which speaks to the opinions of those with superior football knowledge. He is a better player than many here admit.

    To me proof of the drafting record can be aligned with how well the team is doing in terms of record and there the team has had a very enviable record for the term of this present regime. Do not the let the negativity of a small group of anti- regime folks colour your thinking on this and make your own decisions based upon objective indicia that more carefully scores the results. Another indicia is how many of the players drafted are still playing either in Seattle or elsewhere. You will find the % is high.

    We should accept as well the team has recently faced a significant draft fail in McDowell which skews the results and they have had to overcome a cap crisis faced as a result of earlier successful drafting. The team is constantly rebuilding itself and to me they are doing it better than most of the league but certainly better than it has ever been done here before.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:


    Need to know what Thompson did to qualify, it wasn't playing Safety.
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  • It's a pay system more based upon the number of snaps the player has played rather than actual performance.

    The team whiffed on both the Thompson and Hill picks believing the two players would show better playing speed than their combine numbers, Hill just plain sucks instinctively is slow, can’t tackle, takes poor angles, and can't cover, Thompson's knock is while he shows adequate instinctive ability he's too slow to play well in our system, although he had two INTs he’s got poor ball skills. Watching the differences between him and Diggs clearly pointed out Thompson’s weakness. He’s shown he is no better than a depth player, while Hill could be faced with being axed as unable to play at this level.
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  • The team’s cap took a hit with these ‘‘performance” bonuses. Now down to $50,775,222 according to OTC.
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  • Additionally, Jason has updated the contracts for Duane Brown, Tyler Lockett and K.J. Wright to presumably include performance incentives that would otherwise by NLTBE but are all considered "likely" because it is the last year of the CBA.

    After RFA tenders, the Seahawks will be under $45M in cap even after cutting Ed Dickson.

    I now think K.J. Wright's contract is one to watch -- he may be a cap casualty after all. $7.5m savings in cutting him.
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  • What Ifedi factor are you using to get at that $45M #?

    I really enjoy and recommend the posts you and Jammer put up. Great stuff.
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  • Appy, Don't believe Ifedi is factored in at all as he is a UFA this offseason and will be on the market to get a new deal.

    Suspect he will want more than the team is prepared to pay, like all things price will be a factor in keeping him. Believe the team might be better off acquiring a RT in the draft. Continuity on the OLine is important but Ifedi hasn't grown in step with his draft position or expectation for improvement, he does stay healthy though and that is a limited positive, but he still has killed more drives than any other player on the OLine.
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  • Appyhawk wrote:What Ifedi factor are you using to get at that $45M #?

    I really enjoy and recommend the posts you and Jammer put up. Great stuff.


    None of the UFA guys are factored into available cap. I am factoring the RFA guys I think will received tenders.
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  • These bonuses are exactly what Hawkstorian was talking about, they will chip away at the available cap number which i suspect is truly closer to $40-45 mil. before cap cuts.
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  • At present http://www.draftech.com is mocking 3 compensatory picks to the Seahawks:
    * these pick numbers may change *

    3rd rd.- pick 100 Thomas
    4th rd.- pick 143 Coleman
    6th rd.- pick 214 Stephen

    I'm going to post these.

    The number of comp. picks is confirmed by www.OTC.com
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  • DE Kony Ealy is tearing it up in the XFL
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  • Thanks Chet!
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  • Is there some reason why we care about Kony Ealy?
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  • For me no, but he was another early draft pick that for whatever reason flashed then disappeared out off the league and could be a guy that has slipped through the cracks. Time will tell.

    He could however be a cheap but utilitarian journeyman addition with potential upside, or not.
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  • Thanks Kitsap!

    Finally some news!!! :2thumbs:

    I am hopeful this player has something left in the tank, a year will tell. It could be a good signing and his cost will be partially offset by the cut of TE- Dickson. Sure hope he spends less time injured than Dickson did.

    Updated.

    Don't believe this player is considered a UFA as he was cut by the Panthers and is a street FA until the new season starts. as a result he doesn't count in potential comp pick calculations.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:


    Maybe he'll turn out to be great for us, but that seems like waaay too much money to me. I know Russ visited with him recently so maybe they have something cooking, Hope so.
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  • Sounds like new CBA is being voted on --- this could definitely change cap space and also might impact roster rules with the 17 game season down the road. Stay tuned!
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  • Thanks Jville!!!

    Interesting indeed, wonder how much the Players Assn. will chafe over?

    Surprised at the one only active player increase and it being restricted to OLine.
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  • Jimminy Christmas, that's a lot to digest!
    So how does any or all that affect our cap?
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  • Thanks Kitsap!

    He's already added to the roster on the strength of reliable source information.
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  • As things sit presently after watching a combine where it appeared there isn't a great deal of quality defensive depth of talent available it certainly looks as if the team could be focusing upon O in the draft and being forced to pay for defensive talent in FA.

    I cannot recall an offseason in many many years where I have as many concerns about the quality of the depth on the roster and where there are as many critical roster spots needing to be filled.

    Free agency is approaching quickly and if we look at the roster under contract for 2020 there are certainly some very huge areas of need.

    Upon reflection the Clark/Clowney situation may not turn out as well as we were crowing last offseason. Time will tell with this all but I have real concern about the depth of the D generally but especially the DLine. I certainly hope JS is able to work his magic to acquire some young solid DLine talent. Stay tuned.
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  • The comp picks are announced.

    The team received a 3rd (pick 101) and 4th (pick 144) and a 6th (pick 214).

    https://www.si.com/nfl/seahawks/news/se ... -nfl-draft

    This very close to what was estimated. The team now has nine picks.
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  • I just got news flash that players are on the verge of approving the CBA by a wide margin.
    Russ will be bummed.
    But maybe now things will begin moving along more quickly, right?
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    Seahawks announce Steve Hutchinson has joined the front office as a football consultant.

    Brennan Carroll promoted to run game coordinator. Aaron Curry promoted to a full-time role as defensive assistant.

    Damione Lewis (defense) and Keli'i Kekuewa (offense) added to staff.

    Not exactly roster but I thought it was interesting addition to our staff.
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  • This player is a high character player and has shown he can play NCB at a high level and if nothing if added could bring an increased level of competition to the position. He's stout against the run as well and not shy to square up against RBs.

    Wonder what kind money he'll want? As well like Olsen he won't count against the comp pick formula.
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  • Just heard on Sirius XM NFL radio that the Seahawks are having TE- Jordan Reed in for visit today.

    At some point perhaps soon visits for free agents and draft picks may get suspended with all the precautions on the COVID situation.
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  • CBA approved narrowly! And now cap set at $198.2M which is a little lower than expected.

    Now to see if free agency is delayed. It seems sensible to put it off a couple weeks.
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