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Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:08 pm
  • Did he go in as a seahawk? I see Russ gave him a standing o.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:09 pm
  • Cyrus12 wrote:Did he go in as a seahawk? I see Russ gave him a standing o.



    He went in as a Football player who played for the Seahawks and Vikings, this is not the NBA.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:11 pm
  • Cyrus12 wrote:Did he go in as a seahawk? I see Russ gave him a standing o.

    Again, in the Pro Football HOF players don't go in as a member of a specific team. They go in with a bust that has no team logo whatsoever and all of the teams they played for are listed chronologically on the base of the bust.


    As for Hutchinson, it's deserved but I have very mixed feelings about him.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 7:23 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
    Cyrus12 wrote:Did he go in as a seahawk? I see Russ gave him a standing o.



    He went in as a Football player who played for the Seahawks and Vikings, this is not the NBA.

    Copy...thought they had a choice.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:04 pm
  • The poison pill thing still really bothers me.

    Seattle actually did match the offer, even restructuring Walt's contract to do so.

    That clause made it literally impossible as it had included language that applied terms to the date of the contract signing.

    It was a b!@ch move.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:10 pm
  • acer1240 wrote:The poison pill thing still really bothers me.

    Seattle actually did match the offer, even restructuring Walt's contract to do so.

    That clause made it literally impossible as it had included language that applied terms to the date of the contract signing.

    It was a b!@ch move.


    Pretty much.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:11 pm
  • Just to put the record straight here, Steve Hutchinson's "poison pill" contract with the Vikings was in retaliation to the Seahawks reneging on a promise by Mike Holmgren that he would be given the franchise tag. Tim Ruskell used the less-expensive transition tag, which screwed Hutchinson out of $600,000.

    The villain in the piece is Tim Ruskell, who didn't consult with Mike Holmgren, and in fact Holmgren was rightfully pissed that Ruskell chased away a hall-of-fame guard who was a key part of the impenetrable left side of our offensive line.

    So much like a fight on an NFL field, it's often the guy who retaliates who gets flagged. Except unlike the NFL, we have all the information and can make the right call. Hate on Ruskell, not on Hutch.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:19 pm
  • Disagree kiwi. I'm not saying that you are wrong on the Ruskell comment as you are spot on, but in the end, it did not cost Hutch a dime.

    It was an unprecedented clause and has since been banned in NFL contract language.

    It was a $h!t move to say the least.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:36 pm
  • There should be a provision that says he only gets in if he lives in Canton Ohio.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:05 pm
  • Agreed. This is all on Hutch. Period. I don’t want to hear any other false narratives. I posted this when .Net was on Scout over a decade ago.

    Timmy boy played a role but the poison pill BS clause is now banned because of Hutch.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:08 pm
  • Poison pill shouldn't bother anyone.
    That moron GM Ruskell I believe, promised him and Holmgrem the franchise tag and while Holms was out on vacation, changed it to the transaction tag. The poison pill wasn't at the hawks, but at Ruskell who betrayed his trust.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sat Feb 01, 2020 9:38 pm
  • KiwiHawk wrote:Just to put the record straight here, Steve Hutchinson's "poison pill" contract with the Vikings was in retaliation to the Seahawks reneging on a promise by Mike Holmgren that he would be given the franchise tag. Tim Ruskell used the less-expensive transition tag, which screwed Hutchinson out of $600,000.

    The villain in the piece is Tim Ruskell, who didn't consult with Mike Holmgren, and in fact Holmgren was rightfully pissed that Ruskell chased away a hall-of-fame guard who was a key part of the impenetrable left side of our offensive line.

    So much like a fight on an NFL field, it's often the guy who retaliates who gets flagged. Except unlike the NFL, we have all the information and can make the right call. Hate on Ruskell, not on Hutch.



    Whether Hutch lost any money, or not, this whole issue lies squarely with Ruskell. Anyone of us who followed the team closely at the time knew where the blamed should go. I remember talk that even Allen didn't understand what happened and Holmgren had to explain it to him. This should have been the reason to fire Ruskell right that moment. Most other owners would have made that move. I know I would.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:26 am
  • acer1240 wrote:The poison pill thing still really bothers me.

    Seattle actually did match the offer, even restructuring Walt's contract to do so.

    That clause made it literally impossible as it had included language that applied terms to the date of the contract signing.

    It was a b!@ch move.


    This! He can celebrate with his vikings teammates and fans. I said the same thing about Randy johnson. Both didn't want to be here so piss on them.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:38 am
  • Well at least he didnt tell another coach to come get him or finger the sideline...what Earl did was much worse. Not that Earl is a hofer.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 9:48 pm
  • Bobblehead wrote:Poison pill shouldn't bother anyone.


    Regardless of blame, it was 15 years go. Football is something that is supposed to be fun; carrying a grudge with real emotions from two presidents ago over it seems weird.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:20 pm
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:26 pm
  • bmorepunk wrote:
    Bobblehead wrote:Poison pill shouldn't bother anyone.


    Regardless of blame, it was 15 years go. Football is something that is supposed to be fun; carrying a grudge with real emotions from two presidents ago over it seems weird.


    Agreed. Grownups holding grudges against someone they don't know, in the largely inconsequential realm of pro sports, seems silly to me.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:33 pm
  • Congrats Hutch. Another HoFer to add to our arsenal. Well deserved.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:04 pm
  • acer1240 wrote:Disagree kiwi. I'm not saying that you are wrong on the Ruskell comment as you are spot on, but in the end, it did not cost Hutch a dime.

    It was an unprecedented clause and has since been banned in NFL contract language.

    It was a $h!t move to say the least.

    Let's not forget Hutch is from Minnesota and had a desire to go home if the money was right and if I recall correctly his wife/girlfriend at the time was also from the Minny area and preggers so there were some other factors but I among many I know were first hand pissed off he left.

    The NFL is a business and stuff like this happens sometimes and if Ruskell didn't screw the pooch like he did, Hutch would have remained a Hawk, PERIOD.

    I am glad he made the HOF because he sure deserves to be there, at least IMO.

    GO HAWKS!!!

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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:26 pm
  • Hutch was from Florida. I was really bitter about the poison pill garbage at the time, but I’m over it now. Congrats to Steve Hutchinson. He was a legend for the Seahawks.
    The real blame goes to Tim Ruskell and the players association. Ruskell was a flat out idiot being cheap with a great player and the PA wanted the transition tag gone...
    Also, screw the Vikings for that chump ass move. The NFL should have blocked the transaction the moment it hit the league office.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Mon Feb 03, 2020 1:09 am
  • Rob_Grimm wrote:Hutch was from Florida. I was really bitter about the poison pill garbage at the time, but I’m over it now. Congrats to Steve Hutchinson. He was a legend for the Seahawks.
    The real blame goes to Tim Ruskell and the players association. Ruskell was a flat out idiot being cheap with a great player and the PA wanted the transition tag gone...
    Also, screw the Vikings for that chump ass move. The NFL should have blocked the transaction the moment it hit the league office.



    They would have, had Hutch played for a legacy squad like Dallas or Pittsburgh. You can still see the veins in Mike’s head pop when he talks about finding out that Ruskell had unilaterally switched to the franchise tag without notifying ownership or the coaches. And no, Hutch had no ties to Minnesota. As previously mentioned, he’s from Florida and attended the university of Michigan.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:29 am
  • 12HawkFan wrote:
    acer1240 wrote:Disagree kiwi. I'm not saying that you are wrong on the Ruskell comment as you are spot on, but in the end, it did not cost Hutch a dime.

    It was an unprecedented clause and has since been banned in NFL contract language.

    It was a $h!t move to say the least.

    Let's not forget Hutch is from Minnesota and had a desire to go home if the money was right and if I recall correctly his wife/girlfriend at the time was also from the Minny area and preggers so there were some other factors but I among many I know were first hand pissed off he left.

    The NFL is a business and stuff like this happens sometimes and if Ruskell didn't screw the pooch like he did, Hutch would have remained a Hawk, PERIOD.

    I am glad he made the HOF because he sure deserves to be there, at least IMO.

    GO HAWKS!!!

    12HF


    Except he's not from Minnesota. He was born and went to HS in Florida and went to Michigan. From what I'm seeing his wife was also his high school girlfriend, so unless they were pen pals...not from Minnesota.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:41 am
  • bmorepunk wrote:
    Bobblehead wrote:Poison pill shouldn't bother anyone.


    Regardless of blame, it was 15 years go. Football is something that is supposed to be fun; carrying a grudge with real emotions from two presidents ago over it seems weird.

    Generally I agree but I'll NEVER stop holding a grudge against the NFL for XL*, freaking NEVER!
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:10 am
  • Huck Futch!
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:56 pm
  • Hutch liked the Northwest because he was a outdoorsman, he liked Minnesota for the same reason, he could kill stuff and fish.
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Tue Feb 04, 2020 3:01 pm
  • Seahwkgal wrote:Huck Futch!

    Hutchitraitor (that one's mine btw)
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Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:15 am

Re: Steve Hutchinson Hofer
Wed Feb 05, 2020 12:05 pm
  • As we said years ago, Huck Futch.

    He disappeared from my circle of care through his own actions.

    Probably the most formerly significant member of this team I don't consider a Seahawk.

    Embarassing.
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