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  • morgulon1 wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    morgulon1 wrote:Can anyone name an NFL player who was wrongly accused of a crime and were later exonerated?

    The only player I can think of was that linebacker from California who went to prison for a r@p* he didnt commit. I think
    he was in high school or college.



    Ray Louis ?



    $h!t.

    Brian Banks (born July 24, 1985)[1] is a former American football player. He signed with the Atlanta Falcons of the National Football League (NFL) on April 3, 2013.[2][3] Banks previously signed as an undrafted free agent with the Las Vegas Locomotives of the United Football League in 2012.[4][5]

    Banks was a standout high school football star at Polytechnic High School (Poly) in Long Beach, California. In 2002, his Junior year, Banks verbally committed to USC.[6] After being falsely accused of r@p* by classmate Wanetta Gibson, he spent close to six years imprisoned and five years on parole, and had his conviction overturned in 2012 after his accuser confessed that she had fabricated the entire story. Following his exoneration, Banks sought to resume his football career, playing for the now defunct United Football League (UFL), attending mini-camps for several NFL teams, and later signing with the Atlanta Falcons.
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  • jmahon316 wrote:This is starting to smell like a nothing-burger as far as Dunbar is concerned

    Edit: If Dunbar is acquitted and dismissed of his charges, I want everyone who was so quick to cut bait on him to accept responsibility for their quick judgement and don't even bother supporting him during his time here. Those that are in that category don't deserve to cheer him on or reverse your judgement on him. Show your true colors during his whole tenure here and accept that you gave into the media and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. You deserve this just as much as you thought he deserved to be guilty of the mass media's judgement. I'm so sick of how everyone panders to the hysteria without waiting for the facts.


    I’ve been on the internet since the beginning and this has to be the stupidest posts I have ever seen. LOL

    Really, who gives a crap what you want?

    People have a right to form any opinion they want based on any evidence they want. They aren’t jurors. They don’t have to give someone the benefit of the doubt if they don’t choose. Maybe they are giving the Victims, witnesses, police and DA the benefit of the doubt.

    All the stupid “we can’t discuss X until Y happens” is just uneducated BS. Or “you aren’t a true fan if you don’t do Z” is idiocy. If you don’t like a discussion don’t go to a discussion board.

    BTW I haven’t commented on this issue. I just really hate opinion naz**. Everyone can have their own without telling you what your has to be.
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  • getnasty wrote:Nothing good happens in Florida


    Dexter ?
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  • So I'm just going to leave this alone. I let it get too personal for me and I shoudn't have, so I apologize for that. Like I said, I absolutely hate when people make such quick judgement calls without knowing everything that happened, especially when someone's future is at stake. I'm not going to talk about it anymore, and I apologize for lashing out at you guys.


    JayhawkMike wrote:
    jmahon316 wrote:This is starting to smell like a nothing-burger as far as Dunbar is concerned

    Edit: If Dunbar is acquitted and dismissed of his charges, I want everyone who was so quick to cut bait on him to accept responsibility for their quick judgement and don't even bother supporting him during his time here. Those that are in that category don't deserve to cheer him on or reverse your judgement on him. Show your true colors during his whole tenure here and accept that you gave into the media and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. You deserve this just as much as you thought he deserved to be guilty of the mass media's judgement. I'm so sick of how everyone panders to the hysteria without waiting for the facts.


    I’ve been on the internet since the beginning and this has to be the stupidest posts I have ever seen. LOL

    Really, who gives a crap what you want?

    People have a right to form any opinion they want based on any evidence they want. They aren’t jurors. They don’t have to give someone the benefit of the doubt if they don’t choose. Maybe they are giving the Victims, witnesses, police and DA the benefit of the doubt.

    All the stupid “we can’t discuss X until Y happens” is just uneducated BS. Or “you aren’t a true fan if you don’t do Z” is idiocy. If you don’t like a discussion don’t go to a discussion board.

    BTW I haven’t commented on this issue. I just really hate opinion naz**. Everyone can have their own without telling you what your has to be.


    Really? Since the beginning, and THIS is the stupidest post you've ever seen? Lol.
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  • jmahon316 wrote:So I'm just going to leave this alone. I let it get too personal for me and I shoudn't have, so I apologize for that. Like I said, I absolutely hate when people make such quick judgement calls without knowing everything that happened, especially when someone's future is at stake. I'm not going to talk about it anymore, and I apologize for lashing out at you guys.


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    jmahon316 wrote:This is starting to smell like a nothing-burger as far as Dunbar is concerned

    Edit: If Dunbar is acquitted and dismissed of his charges, I want everyone who was so quick to cut bait on him to accept responsibility for their quick judgement and don't even bother supporting him during his time here. Those that are in that category don't deserve to cheer him on or reverse your judgement on him. Show your true colors during his whole tenure here and accept that you gave into the media and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. You deserve this just as much as you thought he deserved to be guilty of the mass media's judgement. I'm so sick of how everyone panders to the hysteria without waiting for the facts.


    I’ve been on the internet since the beginning and this has to be the stupidest posts I have ever seen. LOL

    Really, who gives a crap what you want?

    People have a right to form any opinion they want based on any evidence they want. They aren’t jurors. They don’t have to give someone the benefit of the doubt if they don’t choose. Maybe they are giving the Victims, witnesses, police and DA the benefit of the doubt.

    All the stupid “we can’t discuss X until Y happens” is just uneducated BS. Or “you aren’t a true fan if you don’t do Z” is idiocy. If you don’t like a discussion don’t go to a discussion board.

    BTW I haven’t commented on this issue. I just really hate opinion naz**. Everyone can have their own without telling you what your has to be.


    Really? Since the beginning, and THIS is the stupidest post you've ever seen? Lol.

    ha ha ha :2thumbs:
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  • morgulon1 wrote:
    getnasty wrote:Nothing good happens in Florida


    Dexter ?


    Yeah.. But I counter with Dexters sister.. who was the worst.
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  • We can all use some good news. PLEASE let this all be a mistake. We need CB help!
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  • https://www.nfl.com/news/deandre-baker- ... ges-giants

    "Dunbar has yet to turn himself in to the authorities.

    "The only thing he is guilty of is being in the wrong place at the wrong time," Michael Grieco, Dunbar's attorney, told NFL Media on Friday. "The victims and witnesses have all changed their stories from the one they gave the police, as they have signed off on sworn affidavits exonerating Mr. Dunbar. The affidavits have been provided to the police."

    Interesting.
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  • So 5 witnesses gave statements under oath at the scene implicating Dunbar. The lawyer then gets the same 5 witnesses to swear affidavits attesting his innocence, although the witnesses have not gone back to the police to recant their earlier sworn testimony or modify it. I don’t know if giving false testimony outside a court is a crime in this jurisdiction but I would think obstruction of justice or aiding/abetting would be on the table depending on whether they lied initially or now. The statements to the police were sworn.

    Sure seems like they must have lied either initially or now since we seem to have ended up with such conflicting statements.

    These witnesses are in deep doo doo. Lying to the police then going to dunbars lawyer to contradict their own sworn testimony instead of going back to the police to recant...unless the police were torturing witness statements on the scene this is some shady stuff. And if the police were strong arming testimony you can bet the defense lawyer would have painted it wall to wall on social media.
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  • Dunbar has a good attorney who is working hard to muddy the water and make it a difficult case to prosecute. I have no idea if Dunbar did anything wrong but with conflicting statements even if he did it will help the charges to be dropped or plead down significantly.
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  • JayhawkMike wrote:Dunbar has a good attorney who is working hard to muddy the water and make it a difficult case to prosecute. I have no idea if Dunbar did anything wrong but with conflicting statements even if he did it will help the charges to be dropped or plead down significantly.
    I agree, no matter what happens going forward the existence of conflicting testimony weakens both versions of testimony. This helps the defense because all they need is a little doubt.

    The witnesses could rip up the affidavits today and confirm their original stories and they’d still have gravely wounded the prosecution because they’d be torn apart on cross.

    The wits might want to lawyer up themselves though. This type of muddying of the waters is one reason it’s a crime to lie in sworn testimony. It’s obstruction because it is now infinitely harder to get to the truth.
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  • jmahon316 wrote:So I'm just going to leave this alone. I let it get too personal for me and I shoudn't have, so I apologize for that. Like I said, I absolutely hate when people make such quick judgement calls without knowing everything that happened, especially when someone's future is at stake. I'm not going to talk about it anymore, and I apologize for lashing out at you guys.


    JayhawkMike wrote:
    jmahon316 wrote:This is starting to smell like a nothing-burger as far as Dunbar is concerned

    Edit: If Dunbar is acquitted and dismissed of his charges, I want everyone who was so quick to cut bait on him to accept responsibility for their quick judgement and don't even bother supporting him during his time here. Those that are in that category don't deserve to cheer him on or reverse your judgement on him. Show your true colors during his whole tenure here and accept that you gave into the media and didn't give him the benefit of the doubt. You deserve this just as much as you thought he deserved to be guilty of the mass media's judgement. I'm so sick of how everyone panders to the hysteria without waiting for the facts.


    I’ve been on the internet since the beginning and this has to be the stupidest posts I have ever seen. LOL

    Really, who gives a crap what you want?

    People have a right to form any opinion they want based on any evidence they want. They aren’t jurors. They don’t have to give someone the benefit of the doubt if they don’t choose. Maybe they are giving the Victims, witnesses, police and DA the benefit of the doubt.

    All the stupid “we can’t discuss X until Y happens” is just uneducated BS. Or “you aren’t a true fan if you don’t do Z” is idiocy. If you don’t like a discussion don’t go to a discussion board.

    BTW I haven’t commented on this issue. I just really hate opinion naz**. Everyone can have their own without telling you what your has to be.


    Really? Since the beginning, and THIS is the stupidest post you've ever seen? Lol.

    Well said and much appreciated. I didn't post anything after reading the initial article, but inside my head I let the expletives fly.
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  • free Quinton Dunbar!!!
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  • Well, this won't be settled anytime soon and the NFL as we all know, takes it's time with this stuff.
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  • If the charges ARE dropped...
    I'm just hoping the NFL doesn't Jarran Reed him, and suspend him for half the season.
    Because apparently, that's OK!
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  • If charges are dropped he needs to get the H out of Florida and away from his "crew". Go find Marshan.
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  • Seahawks cornerback Quinton Dunbar has turned himself in to authorities in Florida, two days after the issuance of an arrest warrant charging him with armed robbery and aggravated assault. Dunbar’s lawyer, who has extended the all-time record of claiming that his client didn’t do it, announced the move on social media — repeatedly spelling Dunbar’s name (first and last) incorrectly.

    SNIP
    The lawyer's last point is his strongest, that Dunbar (if truly innocent) is being placed at undue risk of contracting the coronavirus. Instead of complaining on social media, however, Grieco should be focusing all efforts on getting Dunbar in front of a judge ASAFP and getting him released on bail, so that the charges can be fought properly while Dunbar is somewhere other than behind bars. At a minimum, Grieco should be pestering the police to ensure that Dunbar has sufficient protections against the virus while awaiting a bail hearing.

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  • SantaClaraHawk wrote:Seahawks cornerback Quinton Dunbar has turned himself in to authorities in Florida, two days after the issuance of an arrest warrant charging him with armed robbery and aggravated assault. Dunbar’s lawyer, who has extended the all-time record of claiming that his client didn’t do it, announced the move on social media — repeatedly spelling Dunbar’s name (first and last) incorrectly.

    SNIP
    The lawyer's last point is his strongest, that Dunbar (if truly innocent) is being placed at undue risk of contracting the coronavirus. Instead of complaining on social media, however, Grieco should be focusing all efforts on getting Dunbar in front of a judge ASAFP and getting him released on bail, so that the charges can be fought properly while Dunbar is somewhere other than behind bars. At a minimum, Grieco should be pestering the police to ensure that Dunbar has sufficient protections against the virus while awaiting a bail hearing.

    https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... imself-in/

    I heard there will be a bail hearing tomorrow morning.
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  • Well given the situation if the Police were taking accounts at the scene one has to wonder about witness intimidation by those trying to go after Dunbar and Baker in the first place. Remember it took a hour and a half for them to report this also.
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  • chris98251 wrote:Well given the situation if the Police were taking accounts at the scene one has to wonder about witness intimidation by those trying to go after Dunbar and Baker in the first place. Remember it took a hour and a half for them to report this also.

    Witness tampering, payoffs, or witnesses lying initially. All are possible with 1 and 2 more likely than option 3.
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  • Uncle Si wrote:
    morgulon1 wrote:
    getnasty wrote:Nothing good happens in Florida


    Dexter ?


    Yeah.. But I counter with Dexters sister.. who was the worst.



    You too? She drove me crazy.
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  • Dunbar has been reportedly granted bail of $100K, no idea of the terms yet and whether a bond has to be posted, yet it appears not.

    https://www.fieldgulls.com/2020/5/17/21 ... ks-sonoiki

    Reading this thread causes me to wonder if some here have forgotten the basic premise of our legal system that every defendant has the inalienable right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    This whole situation seems bizarre and riddled with curious circumstances. Why would the defendants rob people they knew in the way initially reported? Why was the robbery not reported immediately instead of 1.5 hours later? Why have at least 5 of the witnesses "alleged victims" now recanted their original allegations and exonerate Dunbar? It all seems strange.

    What really happened? Has the media and several here unfairly categorized the defendants as mindless hoods from the ghettos? I don't want to come across as sanctimonious but there is so much about this situation we just don't know know.

    What if these guys are actually innocent?
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  • CPHawk wrote:Ray Lewis?

    Haha...Lewis only got off because he agreed to rat on his pals. No hes a murderer.
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  • Sounds like people are recanting so maybe someone with some money paid them off. Either way if witnesses are recanting their credibility is shot so this might not go far.
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  • jammerhawk wrote:Reading this thread causes me to wonder if some here have forgotten the basic premise of our legal system that every defendant has the inalienable right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Seahawks.net is not our legal system.

    My comments were based on the evidence available at the time. I have no problem adjusting my opinion if new evidence arises proving my previous opinion spurious. I could just wait months for all the legal stuff to work itself out, but that’s boring. This is a significant story, and I like talking Hawks football.
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  • Cyrus12 wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:Ray Lewis?

    Haha...Lewis only got off because he agreed to rat on his pals. No hes a murderer.



    Crap legs and Worthlessburger got away with r@p*. So robbing an illegal card game, doesn't seem like much of a stretch.
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  • CPHawk wrote:
    Cyrus12 wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:Ray Lewis?

    Haha...Lewis only got off because he agreed to rat on his pals. No hes a murderer.



    Crap legs and Worthlessburger got away with r@p*. So robbing an illegal card game, doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

    Yep...things can go away with a little bit of $
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  • I also wonder if there was some illegal gambling going on. And these witnesses could have incriminated themselves on the witness stand, if it got to that. A guy doesn't lose 70k at a neighbor's card game.
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  • Cyrus12 wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:
    Cyrus12 wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:Ray Lewis?

    Haha...Lewis only got off because he agreed to rat on his pals. No hes a murderer.



    Crap legs and Worthlessburger got away with r@p*. So robbing an illegal card game, doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

    Yep...things can go away with a little bit of $

    Yep, ask Greg Hardy’s exgirlfriend that Jerruh paid off and made not to show up when she was going to take the witness stand at his trial.
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  • Rat wrote:
    jammerhawk wrote:Reading this thread causes me to wonder if some here have forgotten the basic premise of our legal system that every defendant has the inalienable right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Seahawks.net is not our legal system.

    My comments were based on the evidence available at the time. I have no problem adjusting my opinion if new evidence arises proving my previous opinion spurious. I could just wait months for all the legal stuff to work itself out, but that’s boring. This is a significant story, and I like talking Hawks football.


    Perfect answer.
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  • JayhawkMike wrote:
    Rat wrote:
    jammerhawk wrote:Reading this thread causes me to wonder if some here have forgotten the basic premise of our legal system that every defendant has the inalienable right to be assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Seahawks.net is not our legal system.

    My comments were based on the evidence available at the time. I have no problem adjusting my opinion if new evidence arises proving my previous opinion spurious. I could just wait months for all the legal stuff to work itself out, but that’s boring. This is a significant story, and I like talking Hawks football.


    Perfect answer.

    Agreed. Most negative posts directed at Dunbar had the general qualifier of “IF” he is guilty of a what he is being accused of
    If he isn’t guilty then game on.
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  • Sounds sincere, also well spoken and took responsibility for his lack of judgement in being there.
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  • chris98251 wrote:Sounds sincere, also well spoken and took responsibility for his lack of judgement in being there.

    I’m firmly in the camp of hoping Q was wrong place, wrong time. That said, odds that wasn’t written for him: 10:1
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  • But when it comes to the NFL’s personal conduct policy, I don’t believe it will go away.

    Because there’s no denying from anyone that an incident did happen, Dunbar hasn’t denied being present, and the details of what happened reflect that it simply was not a good situation. And that reflects on the player.

    Which puts the Seahawks in a fairly tough spot. Because even if Dunbar remains on the team, they now have to prepare for a possible suspension for a player they hoped would start at right cornerback this season – a player they traded a fifth-round draft pick to acquire – and a move that likely prevented them from selecting a cornerback in the NFL Draft.

    And while the legal process plays out, it also puts the team in an awkward position of not doing anything – not knowing if there will be a personal conduct suspension – and not being able to dump his salary to pick up a veteran player with no legal issues instead.

    As a Seahawks fan, I’d be frustrated. This has the potential to be the second time in four years that a player the Seahawks were relying on to make an impact throws a wrench into those plans without ever stepping foot on the field.
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  • Save the diplomacy for real life when you're actually involved, or have any impact whatsoever on the situation, not a low traffic football forum :P . If there are multiple witnesses and an arrest warrant, he's guilty until proven otherwise. Get off your high horse.
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  • High Horse to say the least. Nothing like a good internet lecture :snack:
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  • This Dunbar thing is turning into a virus by another name situation. It may be a long time before we know if we're infected or not as testing is limited.
    Our prisons are full of innocent criminals, or so we're told.
    I don't know how this will turn out. I just hope the real truth comes out and real justice results. Right now I'm willing to give Dunbar benefit of the doubt...so long as there is doubt. But anytime someone brings a gun into a situation, then claims innocence...that does not constitute "just a big misunderstanding". Baker claiming he is also innocent does not help Dunbar's cause.
    In the meantime the Seahawks are in a difficult situation that has suddenly become even more difficult.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:
    And while the legal process plays out, it also puts the team in an awkward position of not doing anything – not knowing if there will be a personal conduct suspension – and not being able to dump his salary to pick up a veteran player with no legal issues instead.


    Happens all the time to NFL front offices. Legal troubles, domestic issues, PED issues.

    Don't you think Pete and John knew that a possible suspension was possible for Reed two years ago? How bout Kendricks never ending pending court date, or Josh Gordon's impending suspension, or Browner and Shermans PED suspension possibilities.

    No different here. It's only May, plenty of time to go grab another DB to compete with Dunbar and Flowers until we know how this is all going to shake out.

    Awkward position? Nope, business as usual in the NFL.
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  • All five witnesses recanted their original statements? Sounds very suspicious, like it was either witness tampering or gang-related/snitches get stitches type nonsense. Dunbar will probably get off without charges but I don't like having a low character player on the team, especially one who hasn't played a down for us and hasn't done anything to ingratiate himself to the fanbase. Our defense will stink either way so I wouldn't consider him a big loss if he gets cut.
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  • Um, he's a pro bowl level corner who was in line for a big contract in 2021. Yes, it's a big loss IF he doesn't play. Especially a big loss for THIS swiss cheese defense.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Um, he's a pro bowl level corner who was in line for a big contract in 2021. Yes, it's a big loss IF he doesn't play. Especially a big loss for THIS swiss cheese defense.

    Agreed, especially this late in the offseason. Is there anything remotely comparable left in FA? If this goes bad, we might need to make a second trade, but with little leverage.
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  • ducks41468 wrote:All five witnesses recanted their original statements? Sounds very suspicious, like it was either witness tampering or gang-related/snitches get stitches type nonsense. Dunbar will probably get off without charges but I don't like having a low character player on the team, especially one who hasn't played a down for us and hasn't done anything to ingratiate himself to the fanbase. Our defense will stink either way so I wouldn't consider him a big loss if he gets cut.



    All of their original stories didn't really match up in the first place. Most of them said Dunbar wasn't armed, I think 1 said he was. Most of them also said Baker was ordering the other 2 guys around. There is a possibility that Baker was forcing Dunbar to help him.


    Either way, Dunbar needs to stop hanging out with his current circle. Hopefully he is innocent and learns a lesson or 3 from this.
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