Wilson a steal now !! Mahomes huge deal

John63 · Jul 6, 2020

10 years 450 million.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/07/06/patrick-mahomes-contract-extension-chiefs

Rat · Jul 6, 2020

Second-best QB in the league. His contract now reflecting that is appropriate.

SoulfishHawk · Jul 6, 2020

Yeah, where are all the people who have been whining and moaning about Russ' contract? Bargain.

Cyrus12 · Jul 6, 2020

Wait until his is up...40 plus million for Wilson easy.

Rat · Jul 6, 2020

Wouldn’t be surprising if he asks for some kind of new money soon, especially as the fallout from this deal hits upcoming QBs who are due for new deals.

John63 · Jul 6, 2020

Rat":24z4gyzs said:
Second-best QB in the league. His contract now reflecting that is appropriate.

agree to disagree on 2nd best but keep in mind he will not even be 2nd in salary soon, Watson is coming

John63 · Jul 6, 2020

Cyrus12":ae2x9vcy said:
Wait until his is up...40 plus million for Wilson easy.

Maybe he will be what about 35 maybe

Cyrus12 · Jul 6, 2020

Mahomes deal is 10 yrs 503 million. Oh and if the Seahawks dont give RW 40 plus someone else will...even at 35 or 36.

SoulfishHawk · Jul 6, 2020

Yeah, it's safe to say it's getting out of hand. Most of the talk was 40 mil a year. Yeah...….a hell of a lot more. This deal has changed everything, at least for QB's.

John63 · Jul 6, 2020

Cyrus12":2cum61ow said:
Mahomes deal is 10 yrs 593 million. Oh and if the Seahawks dont give RW 40 plus someone else will...even at 35 or 36.

Yeah I saw hat after I made the post

My opinion you don't give Wilson 40 million to play in our system.

Cyrus12 · Jul 6, 2020

John63":26xxu1rb said:
Cyrus12":26xxu1rb said:

Mahomes deal is 10 yrs 593 million. Oh and if the Seahawks dont give RW 40 plus someone else will...even at 35 or 36.

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Yeah I saw hat after I made the post

My opinion you don't give Wilson 40 million to play in our system.

Well someone will if the Seahawks dont...

Ad Hawk · Jul 6, 2020

It'll be interesting to see what happens to salaries with Covid affecting games, and the increasingly political role of players and broadcasts which may decrease revenue even more in the future.

In other words, Wilson's salary may actually take a hit, as many Americans' have already. At least it should...

Cyrus12 · Jul 6, 2020

Ad Hawk":3uors2pw said:
It'll be interesting to see what happens to salaries with Covid affecting games, and the increasingly political role of players and broadcasts which may decrease revenue even more in the future.

In other words, Wilson's salary may actually take a hit, as many Americans' have already. At least it should...

The people losing money are the already poor or middle class...the rich elite will get richer..including football players.

nanomoz · Jul 6, 2020

Chris Jones just became a lot more available.

TheLegendOfBoom · Jul 6, 2020

nanomoz":2nbocjjp said:
Chris Jones just became a lot more available.

I would love to add Chris Jones.

And he just so happens to play a position of desperate need for Seattle as well.

BUT

Some team not named Seattle and Kansas City will end up paying him if not this year, next year.

I'm guessing Raiders, Broncos or Chargers, that's right, the Chiefs divisional rivals.

John63 · Jul 6, 2020

We will not find out if he is worth it for about 5 years. .Given he has top 5 skill talent around him and an offensive coach we dont know how much is him and how much is the others and the system. Not saying he is not talented, but where would he be if he had say Detroit talent? Or even ours with our system. I am guessing no were near where he is.

That said he got his pay day. Give it a few years and we will know.

poly1274 · Jul 6, 2020

Ad Hawk":2zgutmyq said:
It'll be interesting to see what happens to salaries with Covid affecting games, and the increasingly political role of players and broadcasts which may decrease revenue even more in the future.

In other words, Wilson's salary may actually take a hit, as many Americans' have already. At least it should...

How will Wilson's salary take a hit?

IndyHawk · Jul 7, 2020

John63":25uajvew said:
We will not find out if he is worth it for about 5 years. .Given he has top 5 skill talent around him and an offensive coach we dont know how much is him and how much is the others and the system. Not saying he is not talented, but where would he be if he had say Detroit talent? Or even ours with our system. I am guessing no were near where he is.

That said he got his pay day. Give it a few years and we will know.

I don't think the guy is the best QB.
KC was stupid to hand out that contract.
He can kiss his all over top 5 talent bye bye.
Yes John the coach and system have a lot to do with it.

IndyHawk · Jul 7, 2020

SoulfishHawk":342hhziv said:
Yeah, where are all the people who have been whining and moaning about Russ' contract? Bargain.

A bargain?How?Once you have to pay any QB
a certain % of cap you can't afford enough to win a SB..
The KC window just got very small,they have this season if there
is one to repeat.
I'm one of those who is against paying any QB more than a certain
% of cap and that needs to be fixed.
The era of coddled and overprotecting QB's created these hyped up
fake numbers they would otherwise never put up.

ukeface: :34853_doh:

bmorepunk · Jul 7, 2020

Contract details I posted in the NFL Mahomes thread:

bmorepunk":3cwpypz1 said:
If Sportrac is correct (they now have yearly numbers up), here are his yearly cap hits:

2020 - $5.35 million
2021 - $24.8 million
2022 - $31.45 million
2023 - $42.45 million
2024 - $39.95 million
2025 - $41.95 million
2026 - $41.95 million
2027 - $59.95 million
2028 - $44.45 million
2029 - $44.95 million
2030 - $50.45 million
2031 - $52.45 million

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Your eyes will probably roll to that nearly $60 million cap hit in 2027. And you may be thinking "man they're screwed if he gets hurt or somehow just goes to hell performance-wise", but check out what they did with the dead cap money:

2020 - $64.95 million
2021 - $59.61 million
2022 - $34.90 million
2023 - $4.00 million
2024 - $2.00 million
2025 through 2031 - $0.00

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Worst case scenario for KC in the near term is if Mahomes just sucks or gets hurt is this is a one-year extension on the last two years of his rookie contract, and they lose $4 mil in dead cap space in 2023 cutting him.

$141.48 million is guaranteed.

Those cap hits from 2023 on (particularly 2027 on) get pretty heavy by then but if they don't think he's worth the money they'll try to restructure, knowing they can cut him for no penalty if they have to. They're also betting on the cap going up enough by then that if he's still playing at a high level.

It's a lot of cap space, but it's not a real long-term commitment, and the team has options going forward. Plus that possible cap space increase.

Wilson a steal now !! Mahomes huge deal

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