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mikeak
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:28 am |
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Vick does suck - how many years in this league and he still can't read defenses....Yes he has tremendous mobility, yes he has a cannon for an arm but if you cannot read defenses you hit your ceiling pretty quickly. I am one of the few that said that Vick would be a huge NFL success when he came out of W. Virginia. Most people said the mobility wouldn't work in the NFL but I had seen that arm of his sling it downfield and knew he could throw. I didn't know he was lazy
RW played as a rookie - I expect reading defenses to get better, I expect coordinators to start calling smarter plays - like many of us has said that includes slants, screens and dump-offs to RB's. Look at the rinkity-dink football that SD did on Monday basically "long handoffs" that forces the D to stay honest
RW will be fine
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:30 am |
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IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote: cboom wrote: Sando was spot on. In fact throughout the game the receivers made some great catches on bad throws. Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all. Kelly Stouffer started 16 games for the Seahawks, and played in another 6 for a total of 22. In those games completed 51.5 percent of his passes. He threw for 7 touchdowns. He threw 19 interceptions. He fumbled the ball 20 times. His CAREER quarterback ranking was 54.5. He threw for 2333 yards (even if you remove his six non-started games that would only be an average of 146 yards/game). These facts here make your statement about Wilson the most ridiculous thing I can ever remember reading on this board. IMO, Stan Gelbaugh was worse than Stouffer. 1-8 in Games as a starter for Seattle 48% completion rating 7- TDs 12 INTs Overall QB rating 54.1
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:31 am |
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Before this thread got blown up in the beginning I think the original post does go a long way to proving a point that there are lot of people on this board with RW glasses on that think the receivers let RW down, when in fact there was not a single real drop in the game, just a bunch of poorly placed balls.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:31 am |
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Holy crap balls, Batman!
If this is how this place looks after one loss, just imagine how insane it will be after the second.
Crymany!
My take is this: Wilson didn't make the best choices out there on Sunday, and the outcome of the game cannot firmly be placed on his shoulders alone. There were more than enough shortcomings to go around over 1/3 of the squad. Thankfully, it could have been a hell of a lot worse.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:32 am |
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HoustonHawk82 wrote: Thankfully, it could have been a hell of a lot worse. Nope. Worst performance ever.
_________________ cboom wrote: Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:35 am |
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mikeak wrote: Vick does suck - how many years in this league and he still can't read defenses....Yes he has tremendous mobility, yes he has a cannon for an arm but if you cannot read defenses you hit your ceiling pretty quickly. I am one of the few that said that Vick would be a huge NFL success when he came out of W. Virginia. Most people said the mobility wouldn't work in the NFL but I had seen that arm of his sling it downfield and knew he could throw. I didn't know he was lazy
I can't tell what my favorite part of this paragraph is: The air of knowledge about Michael Vick followed by getting his college wrong (Hint: Virginia Tech) or The claim you were one of the few people to say Michael Vick would be a huge NFL success when he was a #1 overall pick.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:37 am |
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HawksFTW wrote: HoustonHawk82 wrote: Thankfully, it could have been a hell of a lot worse. Nope. Worst performance ever. So, just so I'm clear... one interception is as worse as it could have got?
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:42 am |
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HoustonHawk82 wrote: HawksFTW wrote: HoustonHawk82 wrote: Thankfully, it could have been a hell of a lot worse. Nope. Worst performance ever. So, just so I'm clear... one interception is as worse as it could have got? That was sarcasm.
_________________ cboom wrote: Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:49 am |
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cboom wrote: Sando was spot on. In fact throughout the game the receivers made some great catches on bad throws. Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all. Bombastic bullshit. Must still be tell the truth Monday.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:53 am |
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cboom wrote: Sando was spot on. In fact throughout the game the receivers made some great catches on bad throws. Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all. Thanks for checking in Millen. 
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:59 am |
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cboom wrote: Chukarhawk wrote: Troll Clean up aisle 3!!
Clearly Football is not your game Cboof. Football is not my game because I'm not jumping on the bandwagon of believing a short QB will lead this team to the promise land? A couple years from now Wilson will be forgotten about and you will forget I said he would fail. Your hero Millen is CBJ (Whitehurst) without the cool beard.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:03 am |
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Wow and nobody has even brought up Steakboy Sean Salisbury yet.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:11 am |
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HoustonHawk82 wrote: Holy crap balls, Batman!
If this is how this place looks after one loss, just imagine how insane it will be after the second.
Crymany!
My take is this: Wilson didn't make the best choices out there on Sunday, and the outcome of the game cannot firmly be placed on his shoulders alone. There were more than enough shortcomings to go around over 1/3 of the squad. Thankfully, it could have been a hell of a lot worse. I have a feeling we saw our worst offensive game of this season last Sunday. Wilson showed improvement during the game and I think the coaches got woken up a bit. We may score less points in other games this season but I think the offense will look better.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:12 am |
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cboom wrote: Chukarhawk wrote: Troll Clean up aisle 3!!
Clearly Football is not your game Cboof. Football is not my game because I'm not jumping on the bandwagon of believing a short QB will lead this team to the promise land? A couple years from now Wilson will be forgotten about and you will forget I said he would fail. For a game you admittedly don't know, you sure are dogmatic. 6 centuries ago you would have been the guy saying "I know without a doubt the world is flat", despite people much more informed than you and smarter than you telling you otherwise.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:16 am |
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Sarlacc83 wrote: mikeak wrote: Vick does suck - how many years in this league and he still can't read defenses....Yes he has tremendous mobility, yes he has a cannon for an arm but if you cannot read defenses you hit your ceiling pretty quickly. I am one of the few that said that Vick would be a huge NFL success when he came out of W. Virginia. Most people said the mobility wouldn't work in the NFL but I had seen that arm of his sling it downfield and knew he could throw. I didn't know he was lazy
I can't tell what my favorite part of this paragraph is: The air of knowledge about Michael Vick followed by getting his college wrong (Hint: Virginia Tech) or The claim you were one of the few people to say Michael Vick would be a huge NFL success when he was a #1 overall pick. LOL yeah getting the college wrong was pretty bad. I was so stuck on his awesome performance against West Virgina where he single handedly won the game and made me a believer. Yes VT my bad sorry Vick and Beamer Yes he was the number one pick but many experts didn't expect him to work. Many non-experts (ie people on these forums) did not expect him to work. Just like the comments about Cam Newton he was the number one pick are you telling me there weren't a TON of doubters out there? I was one of them and it sure felt like I was in the majority and turned out that I was wrong
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:31 am |
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cboom wrote: Sando was spot on. In fact throughout the game the receivers made some great catches on bad throws. Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all. What a spectacular wheelbarrow full of crap. I can only presume you didn't see Jackson or CBJ - last season. Much less the murderer's row of "NFL arms" this team has rolled out over the last thirty years. If Wilson never gets better than last Sunday he still won't crack the bottom-five for this franchise. Makes for an entertaining thread, though.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:22 pm |
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Last I checked, NFL football is a TEAM game, one weak link brings the whole team down. The Seahawks just had too many weak links in this game. I think Wilson played fairly well for a rookie starter, to put the loss on his back is ignoring ALL of the other negatives of this game. Starting with the coaches play calling, the ineffective & penalty ridden OL and the lack of having more decent receivers. Sure, Wilson made some mistakes (while he was being chased around by an aggressive defense) and I'm sure he'll learn from those mistakes and perform more up to this boards expectations. The QB is just the easiest and laziest way to blame a poor game performance by the whole TEAM.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:40 pm |
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amill87 wrote: Worst QB may be a bit of an exaggeration but I said in another post he was the QB on one of the worst offensive performances I've seen. Without the turnovers and long returns, we get shut out. He had a bad day which is unusual from him. He's played in one game. We don't know what's usual for him yet.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:44 pm |
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I agree with Sando. I didn't see any honest-to-god drops. I saw a lot of passes that the WR had a chance to catch, but that's different from an accurate pass that was dropped.
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Post subject: Re: Seattle had no drops (Sando) Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:51 pm |
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The worst QB'ing I have seen in a long time was the year Mora jr. was coaching especially Seneca vs the Colts.
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