I guess everyone forgets the Charlie Frye game.

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Repressed memories.

* shudders*

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I forgot we had Frye on the team...

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Not fair you got to that quicker than me! Can I do it too? PLEASE?!

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LOL, you got to be kidding me......I mean he may not have played the best game last Sunday, but there is no way he is the worst Hawk QB ever. Guess you were a Flynn guy........

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His 83 yards are easily forgettable. Unlike CBJ's 69 yards against Cleveland, which forever will be seared into my brain.

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LOL

Worst offensive output ever??? Check out the “79” Seattle VS LA Rams game.

I was at that game, if you didn’t get back from the snack bar with your “King Kup” in time after halftime, you missed their ONLY first down of the game. Zorn’s pass to Largent for 11yds; first play of the second half.

They had minus seven yards TOTAL offense…Zorn was not a rookie in that game, in fact “79” was his best statistical year.

By the way that team went 9 and 7 just missing out on the playoffs to the 10 and 6 Broncos….

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Not to crucify the messenger but we all know statisticians don't play football. The words "ordinary effort" and "100% at fault" are subjective descriptors that can't be added or determined. Keep in mind this is the NFL where playmakers are everywhere and effort is anything but ordinary. From the likes of it some self-proclaimed expert posters here are likely peewee league coaches with weak arms and bricks for hands. Unless I was playing the wrong sport growing up, I think the general consensus remains that in American football a drop is when a receiver is in position to make a catch and the ball touches his hands but fall to the ground without the receiver gaining possession. Fault can be attributed to qb and receiver to any degree AND remain a DROPPED BALL. How do you determine "100% fault" and whether or not Edwards even gave his "ordinary effort" when a defender was running full steam at him is debatable and always has been. These writers are full of themselves. As stated earlier 'statisticians don't play football' but busy themselves with the newest ratings and analysts concern themselves with how to they can errantly project talent during the upcoming drafts. Journalists will write their opinions and continue to sell it as facts. Just my two pennies. But you can count their opinions as truths if you like.

Can someone please send the troll back to his cave? Worst you have seen....I'm guessing you're all of 10 years old if you think he's the worst Seattle has had on the field.

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Can we shack this already?

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“There’s no reason, with Mr. Allen and the fan base here and the stadium, that this can’t be a stable, long-term winning organization.” - John Schneider

Any way you look at it the offense did put points on the board therefore it was not a shut out. IMO those are the worst performances ever. If the team plays 60 mins of football and can't even get into field goal position that is one of the worst performances ever. What we saw against the Cards did leave something to be desired, but it was not the worst we have ever seen from the Seahawks, or their QB.

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Don't worry there are loads of bad statements in this thread to choose from.

If your favorite was taken:



You can always use:

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“There’s no reason, with Mr. Allen and the fan base here and the stadium, that this can’t be a stable, long-term winning organization.” - John Schneider

Love those stats! Thanks for the links! Looking at all those, it reminds me of why Dave Krieg is still probably my fave all-time Seahawks QB. Not flashy, had his faults, but could produce when we needed him. Helped to have Largent around though.... Moon is my fave all-time QB hands-down (Oilers were my second-team), but he got up here too late. McGwire makes RW look like Joe Montana x 100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a waste. To think we could have had Brett Favre during those dark years.

Hass and Dilfer do not belong in that list. Try Gelbaugh,Mirer, Stuffer, McGwire for bad.

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As a Seahawk? How do you figure Dilfer did not belong on that list? He was not very good as a Seahawk.

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Dilfer was never very good on any team

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He wasn't bad. The guy had no offensive line. We would have given up sacks to high school defenses. I remember those painful god-awful days and Dilfer was about the only bright spot on those offenses. I remember people being so excited about Galloway, he was really the only "star" on that offense, the only player anyone thought would be any good - and he was crap. IIRC, we were also running Ricky Watters back then, he was okay. But god, that offense was terrible and so boring to watch. But I wouldn't really blame it on Dilfer - he was a big step up from McGwire and Stouffer.

Two things.

First, (semantics alert!) is it a "drop" if it never touches the receivers hands?

Second, (more seriously), I think Sando has a good definition to work with. A drop should only count for plays where the receiver is 100% at fault. If a receiver goes all out and can't haul in a very tough catch, should that count as a drop? Or what if he was interfered with and it wasn't called? Is that his fault? That final pass was so high and wide and was thrown so fast that the WR (a 6'3" WR) couldn't even get his hands on it! Not to mention, it did appear that Edwards was grabbed by the DB as well.

It kind of surprises me that people still argue this even after Hawkblogger breaks it down with photo evidence. Wilson was throwing very tough to catch passes all game long, and Seattle's WRs actually caught quite a few of them. Edwards himself had a couple of impressive grabs. To throw Edwards under the bus because he couldn't bring in a full extension pass thrown at max velocity while being mildly interfered with is just looking for an easy/convenient scapegoat because people are angry and looking for an easy target. Kinda reminds me of this:

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