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 Post subject: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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His penalties single-handedly killed many of our huge plays. Not just today, but all season. There must be a reason he's a starter. He has helped Lynch be as productive as he was last year. What is the drop-off with our 2nd stringer? I saw Pete bitchin' at him on TV today after he screwed us for the 2nd time today... What say you? Keep him as starter, of let him ride the pine?

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After Pete held him out for several series and talked to him on the sidelines he came in and did a good job the rest of the game.

He just needs to remember when to turn it on and off.

And at least there weren't a dozen penaltys against us today.

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Pete pulling him today was a big warning to him that the are tired of the penalties. My guess is that they stay with him but he is on thin ice and because of the benching today he knows it. I really like the nastiness, he just need to take is down a notch or two and all will be good.

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Did you see the look on his face standing on the sidelines watching the offense without him? He looked truly stricken. Lets hope that's the start of something great.

Also I'd wager that everyone on this team is trying to show the defense they are tough too. Gotta be catching.

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After Pete held him out for several series and talked to him on the sidelines he came in and did a good job the rest of the game.

He just needs to remember when to turn it on and off.

And at least there weren't a dozen penaltys against us today.

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Yeah, I think I'm with you. The more he feels bad about it the less likely it is to happen again. But I think he's on the "starter bubble". Many more penalties, and he's 2nd string.

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He will learn....absent the stupid penalties, his attitude is what i want every one of our OL to have!!!

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He eased up on what could have been another late hit. That is a good step.

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After Pete held him out for several series and talked to him on the sidelines he came in and did a good job the rest of the game.

He just needs to remember when to turn it on and off.

And at least there weren't a dozen penaltys against us today.

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agree here. I like his energy still, so work with him on this problem, it can be solved.


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He absolutely killed what would've been the best play of the game. I hope they give a little RT competition, dude's driving me batshit insane.

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He eased up on what could have been another late hit. That is a good step.


Yeah. You could see that he really wanted to do damage.
I think we need him but at level 5, not level 8

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I thought the coaching staff handled it perfectly today. Sit him down for a bit and then give him another chance. Hopefully it turns a corner with him.

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I think we need to keep the best players we have on the field. Breno is our best option at RT, especially to help Lynch.

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He absolutely killed what would've been the best play of the game. I hope they give a little RT competition, dude's driving me batshit insane.


Agreed, Breno is causing me all sorts of headaches. Although I thought the staff handled it perfectly today as he did not have another penalty after the slight sit down.

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He should get one more week for me to try and prove he can avoid penalties. But surely he's on a pretty short leash.


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He definitely wised up after being benched. I even seen him put his hands up after plays were over to show the refs that he was done for the play.

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I dunno but step number one has to be "wax eyebrows", he looked like an angry muppet when they took him out.

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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.


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Hopefully benching him was a wake up call for him. I love his attitude but he has to keep it in check if we want this offense to sustain drives.

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Honestly, barring injuries, I'm done with him. For a stagnant offense, we simply can't have his stupid hot-headed crap. I'm pissed. Teammates are going to start hating him too if he's constantly costing them. Dudes, something like 55 yards of penalties in 5 quarters of football. One guy simply cannot cause you that much yardage EVER.

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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.

He had a completely unnecessary holding penalty that wiped out a 56-yard pass to Tate in the 1st quarter and then had another unnecessary roughness penalty for a late hit after Obomanu had an 11-yard run at the end of the 1st quarter. Pete benched him for the 2nd quarter as a message to pull his head out of his @$$.

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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.

He had a completely unnecessary holding penalty that wiped out a 56-yard pass to Tate in the 1st quarter and then had another unnecessary roughness penalty for a late hit after Obomanu had an 11-yard run at the end of the 1st quarter. Pete benched him for the 2nd quarter as a message to pull his head out of his @$$.


Tanks man. What a meathead. Glad PC benched his ass if even for just awhile.


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He just needs to remember when to turn it on and off.


The whistle would be a good place to start. ;)

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Did you see the look on his face standing on the sidelines watching the offense without him? He looked truly stricken. Lets hope that's the start of something great.

Also I'd wager that everyone on this team is trying to show the defense they are tough too. Gotta be catching.

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Giacomini is a freaking dirtbag and I like it. Although I dont condone the penalties ( the timing is unreal), I do like the fact that our offensive line has a thugish kinda unSeattle like feel to it. Remember when our o-line was considered "soft"?


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I dunno but step number one has to be "wax eyebrows", he looked like an angry muppet when they took him out.

SERIOUSLY. he looked like Bert's bully big brother...

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Did you see the look on his face standing on the sidelines watching the offense without him? He looked truly stricken. Lets hope that's the start of something great.

Also I'd wager that everyone on this team is trying to show the defense they are tough too. Gotta be catching.

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Giacomini is a freaking dirtbag and I like it. Although I dont condone the penalties ( the timing is unreal), I do like the fact that our offensive line has a thugish kinda unSeattle like feel to it. Remember when our o-line was considered "soft"?


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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.

Pete benched him for the 2nd quarter as a message to pull his head out of his @$$.


...and it's about time. That was a 'leap forward' I've been waiting to see from Pete. Disciplined play requires you make players accountable for their actions. Good on ya, Pete!


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I saw him late in the game walk away from the pile, after some shoving, with his arms up like dude this time it's not me.

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We still have to play him, he's our best option right now. But the leash should be short. He's hurt the team a lot.

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I don't know which one to be more agitated at, Giacomini or Okung. They have both been killing us lately. The penalties are drive killers and people will be watching film and preying on that in a game. Like others have said I like that physicality during the play, but jeez rein it in once the whistle blows Breno! Pete was absolutely right to bench him today!

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I though Okung had a relatively clean game today.

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I'd like to think that Breno will get it together now that he got benched for a series.

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I think we need to keep the best players we have on the field. Breno is our best option at RT, especially to help Lynch.



why? the offense isn't scoring that much as it is, he's just an insurance policy insuring they wont score...

if you become more of a liability than an asset its time... ;)

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He's hateful. I want his Jersey. I hate the procedural penalties, I love the personal fouls. Bench him during the game to put his anger in check, but please let him Piss off and dominate everyone prior to benching.


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Giacomini is a freaking dirtbag and I like it. Although I dont condone the penalties ( the timing is unreal), I do like the fact that our offensive line has a thugish kinda unSeattle like feel to it. Remember when our o-line was considered "soft"?


Yeah, and now it's considered "self-eviscerating". That's a lateral move, not an improvement. I'm glad Pete "Rah-Rah" Carroll is being a typical no-nonsense coach with this guy.

Who replaced Breno when he came out? How'd he do?

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We worry so much about this because..? Our offense has so much trouble making points.


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Who replaced Breno when he came out? How'd he do?


Omiyale. Didn't miss a beat in the run game. In fact Lynch's first run was a good one.

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I though Okung had a relatively clean game today.

No?


He had one O-hold for ten yards today, so I may have been a little pissed from last week. Point being he is just as guilty as anybody for the 65 yards of penalties we incurred today. Our Offense is on the cusp of greatness and the penalties are exacerbating the negatives.

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They either annonced the wrong number on that play or just decided to call a hold for no reason whatsoever, Okung wasn't even in the same stratosphere of a holding penalty on that play, nice clean block by him on that one.

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They either annonced the wrong number on that play or just decided to call a hold for no reason whatsoever, Okung wasn't even in the same stratosphere of a holding penalty on that play, nice clean block by him on that one.


kinda what I thought, everyone payed to watch cam play today so the refs were just doing their part I suppose?

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I was watching it w/o the sound at a bar and there were a few plays that were non existent on the replay...

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Short leash for sure.I love his edge he plays with but he needs to have more control.Plus the refs cut him no slack.


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I though Okung had a relatively clean game today.

No?


He had one O-hold for ten yards today, so I may have been a little pissed from last week. Point being he is just as guilty as anybody for the 65 yards of penalties we incurred today. Our Offense is on the cusp of greatness and the penalties are exacerbating the negatives.


that was never a hold in a million years to be fair, the announcers reckoned they got the number wrong because there's no way you could call it a hold


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Short leash for sure.I love his edge he plays with but he needs to have more control.Plus the refs cut him no slack.


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Eyebrows Giacomini needs to figure his # out right quick! I don't know how Tom Cable hasn't thrown a rock cross at this dude on the sideline of a game yet...

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