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Post subject: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:01 am |
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Who's the worst player on this defense? Hard to say which four "start" on the line so let's say 12
Bryant Irvin Branch Mebane Clemons
Wright Hill Wagner
Sherman Browner Chancellor Thomas
I see some all-pros, I see some pro bowlers, and I see some above average. Nobody "bad." Nobody "average."
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:04 am |
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These days you have to count the nickel package as well as the base defense since they see a similar number of snaps. If you do that then Tru would be the "worst" and he's still pretty good.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:05 am |
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Daaaaaamn! When you put it that way, it comes down to Hill or Branch and I have NO problems with Hill or Branch. Both those guys have been great.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:07 am |
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Chancellor hasn't had as many bone crushing hits so far this year. I say until we get our .gif reels back from him, he's the dog. 
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:54 am |
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Sarlacc83 wrote: Chancellor hasn't had as many bone crushing hits so far this year. I say until we get our .gif reels back from him, he's the dog.  I think he's playing smarter. In the last few weeks I've seen him make hits that dislodge the ball but also are low enough not to draw a penalty. THey aren't OOOHH AHHHH hits, but he isn't getting penalyed either. So I think he's doing great. The PI against in GB was a joke. I'd have to say Trufant in Nickle as our weakest link, but even then he's a saavy vet.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:04 am |
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I'd include Jones and Truf as well as Irvin in our "base 14"
And I reckon it comes down to Hill or Truf, but since Hill as a legitimate starter, he's the "worst" player, as he's likely to see more playing time.
And I'm totally cool with that (though I still think we could improve on him without too much difficulty)
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:19 am |
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That is one tough question. I just don't see "worst of the best" on that squad.
What is just crazy about it is the draft is where most of them came from outside of Clem, Branch, Browner (who is new to the NFL) and Jones.
Thomas Kam Sherman Wright Hill Bryant Irvin Mebane Wagner
Were all draft picks by the Hawks, 6 of them in the PC era. A bunch of guys with 3 years or less in the NFL. That is ridiculous.
These guys are playing lights out defense folks, even Clem looks like a bigger beast than he has since coming here. I just don't see a weakness for another team to expose, MAYBE forcing the linebackers to cover, but those guys are even doing that right along with Kam out there knocking the bowels out of TE's.
Wow...... Just wow..
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:23 am |
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Sarlacc83 wrote: Chancellor hasn't had as many bone crushing hits so far this year. I say until we get our .gif reels back from him, he's the dog.  He was huge against Dallas. I'd like to think it's a combination of other players stepping up and Qb's not wanting to lay out their WRers over the middle to Kam.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:43 am |
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Basis4day wrote: Sarlacc83 wrote: Chancellor hasn't had as many bone crushing hits so far this year. I say until we get our .gif reels back from him, he's the dog.  He was huge against Dallas. I'd like to think it's a combination of other players stepping up and Qb's not wanting to lay out their WRers over the middle to Kam. I know. I was teasing.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:46 am |
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Great question. I think it's Branch, but he's still doing his job, and fairly well.
The Trufant answer seems lazy. He's a good 3rd CB, period.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:49 am |
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As long as we are bitching about our awesome defense, what was the deal with that Jeron Johnson Marcus Trufant overload blitz? On an otherwise great day, that blitz call was poorly times, orchestrated, and ill conceived. I'm not sure Trufant could tackle Cam Newton even if he did get to him. As soon as Seattle realized they had given away the element of surprise they have killed that call.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:02 am |
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I'd say it was poorly exectuted. Trufant's always shown he' a good blitze (for a CB at least).
But, the way Browner's been physically dominating everyone, I'd REALLY like to see him get a crack at it.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:03 am |
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Craig Terrill is clearly the worst player on our defense these days....
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:42 am |
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I agree you have to count Tru, and that he's the worst.
Thinking more about the backups - how many teams would Jeron Johnson be a starter? How many teams would he be the best safety on the team? Love that guy, and love that he's sitting on the bench because superstars are ahead of him in most packages.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:47 am |
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Doesn't this thread make you all long for the days of Brian Russell?
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:50 am |
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I remember getting SCOLDED and flamed for sayin Russell. To the point the old editor questioned if I sould even post anymore.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:31 pm |
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if we arent talking about starters i would say trufant
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 4:34 pm |
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Trufant.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:27 pm |
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Of the starters , Hill misses a lot of tackles.
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Post subject: Re: Who's the worst player on the defense - how awesome is he? Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:28 pm |
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pehawk wrote: I remember getting SCOLDED and flamed for sayin Russell. To the point the old editor questioned if I sould even post anymore. I remember this. You were pissed at Russell backing away from a tackle and wanted him cut immediately, and had to be talked down that he was keeping the play in front of him until Rocky Bernard could catch up from behind.... To be honest, I remember thinking Deon Grant and BRuss were HUGELY improved over the days of Boulware and whoever we had opposite Boulware on any given Sunday.
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