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  • SeahawksFanForever wrote:According to Eric Williams, WR Jermaine Kearse, a UW and Lakes High of Tacoma product, had been playing well on the #Seahawks scout squad going against No. 1 defense.


    Probably on 3rd and 11.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    SeahawksFanForever wrote:According to Eric Williams, WR Jermaine Kearse, a UW and Lakes High of Tacoma product, had been playing well on the #Seahawks scout squad going against No. 1 defense.


    Probably on 3rd and 11.


    Now that's funny.

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  • Unless I missed a transaction somewhere, I still think Burress is worth a look. I would'nt send Paul's private plane out to get him but I'd send him a RT ticket. Coach.

    Obo has his moments, both on ST and as a WR, but I echo the previous post suggesting he's played his last down as a Hawk. Having endured the rollercoaster ride Kearse offered both Jake and Price, I have mixed emotions about his activation. The dude is just so inconsistant and constantly wants to turn his head downfield before looking the ball in. A hero one moment, a heartbreaker the next. Hopefully some NFL coaching has broken him of this Pop Warner type play. I want him to excel, but not holding my breath.

    I am going to continue screaming for Robert Woods until the conclusion of this upcoming draft's (mid) first rd. We would likely have to move up a few spots to secure him, but he is exactly the type of WR needed by both Wilson and the Hawks. I'll be pissed when we (likely) pass on him, in favor of some unheard of WR discovered by Pete in the late rds. Please resist the urge to come back with Baldwin, such gems are found quite infrequently.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    SeahawksFanForever wrote:According to Eric Williams, WR Jermaine Kearse, a UW and Lakes High of Tacoma product, had been playing well on the #Seahawks scout squad going against No. 1 defense.


    Probably on 3rd and 11.



    haha! This comment makes me laugh out loud and cry from sadness all at the same time.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    SeahawksFanForever wrote:According to Eric Williams, WR Jermaine Kearse, a UW and Lakes High of Tacoma product, had been playing well on the #Seahawks scout squad going against No. 1 defense.


    Probably on 3rd and 11.


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  • Hawkstorian wrote:I wondering if he was about to move to another team's roster, so the Seahawks had to bump him or lose him. We also don't know if Thurmond is getting activated. My guess is more action is coming.


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  • This news sucks. Seattle's just got a huge gaping hole at receiver. We lost both games the last two weeks (SF & DET) because of dropped passes. Our WRs and TEs look terrible. Heck, even Lynch and Turbin have dropped crucial passes this season that basically killed drives when we really REALLY needed points. You need 1-2 good clutch receivers (at least) to be successful in the NFL, and we have zero. Of course, it's a problem most of us saw before the season even began, no surprise there. I'm just surprised they haven't spent any picks at receiver, when it's such an obvious need.

    I'm hoping Sarkisian gets fired from the UW, comes to the Seahawks, and we draft a boat-load of receivers this offseason, along with a few pass blocking OLs. Get those two areas straightened up, and we might contend next season.
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  • jlwaters1 wrote:it doesn't really matter. Obo's been a complete non-factor this year. This will be his last year with the club IMO.



    Last year should have been...he's been a nonfactor for quite some time IMHO.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:
    SeahawksFanForever wrote:According to Eric Williams, WR Jermaine Kearse, a UW and Lakes High of Tacoma product, had been playing well on the #Seahawks scout squad going against No. 1 defense.


    Probably on 3rd and 11.


    Now that's funny.

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  • HansGruber wrote:This news sucks. Seattle's just got a huge gaping hole at receiver. We lost both games the last two weeks (SF & DET) because of dropped passes. Our WRs and TEs look terrible. Heck, even Lynch and Turbin have dropped crucial passes this season that basically killed drives when we really REALLY needed points. You need 1-2 good clutch receivers (at least) to be successful in the NFL, and we have zero. Of course, it's a problem most of us saw before the season even began, no surprise there. I'm just surprised they haven't spent any picks at receiver, when it's such an obvious need.

    I'm hoping Sarkisian gets fired from the UW, comes to the Seahawks, and we draft a boat-load of receivers this offseason, along with a few pass blocking OLs. Get those two areas straightened up, and we might contend next season.



    ..so long as he is not asked to partake in the development of Wilson. I am far from an expert on the subject, but I'm not at all pleased with his influence on Locker and even less so with Keith Price. Udubs patchwork Oline has hurt Price's progress for sure, but it is clear Sark expects something from his QBs that ignores their actual skillset. Correct me if I am mistaken, but I don't believe Price ran the ball even once this past weekend! I could see Sark bottling-up Wilson as well.

    The (anticipated) argument that Sark did well with QBs @ SC cannot be proven. Most of us would do well coaching the talent SC gets ...but how many, in recent years, have done well in the pros, no longer playing against inferior competition?
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  • Well this stinks.....and so much for not having many injuries......
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  • Wow. WTF? our receiving corps was bad, now its banged up and missing three guys and the answer is frocking Jermaine Kearse? Seriously?
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  • Quick, somebody get some stickum for Kearse to put on those pool cues he calls hands.

    Or tell Wilson to never throw it right to him, never in the numbers. He only makes redonkulous catches, but never easy catches.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:
    jlwaters1 wrote:it doesn't really matter. Obo's been a complete non-factor this year. This will be his last year with the club IMO.


    He's been a factor on special teams...can't overlook that.


    He's had five special-teams tackles in his last 24 games. Very replaceable, especially given Pete's penchant for riffling through ST players.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    FlyingGreg wrote:
    jlwaters1 wrote:it doesn't really matter. Obo's been a complete non-factor this year. This will be his last year with the club IMO.


    He's been a factor on special teams...can't overlook that.


    He's had five special-teams tackles in his last 24 games. Very replaceable, especially given Pete's penchant for riffling through ST players.


    Probably. But if he's so replaceable on special teams...how come he wasn't replaced?
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  • I am with Greg on this one, special teams play is one of those things where tackles don't mean much. I have seen Obo force the punt/kick returner to react too many times to think he won't be missed on special teams.

    With Harvin returning kicks, Obo might be missed rather severely. It is not a small thing at all. Especially since Robinson, also a special teamer, might be missing as well.
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  • Sad to hear about Obo.

    With Baldwin out we don't have a possession receiver, I think that's the missing link in are passing game. I'm not so sure Kearse is the answer, but I don't suspect or expect Carroll to make any moves.
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  • Also sad about Obo.

    I like the Kearse move. Good one-on-one matchup guy, can go up and take the ball.

    That being said, I'd cut Braylon Edwards right now and grab Greg Salas ( http://www.google.com/search?q=greg+salas ) from the Pat's practice squad. I would cut Edwards and hope a killer slot guy can comPETE his way into the starting lineup after the bye week.

    We desperately need depth at WR soon!
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  • I have noticed Lane as a gunner a few times in limited action.I can see him and Maxwell as the 2 gunners moving forward.I expect to see Kearse in the lineup this week.I have a feeling that Edwards will not be ready.Big worry to me is that Obo new all WR positions SE,Flanker and slot.I dont trust Tate with that role and Martin is not good enough and its Kearse first game action
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  • Hmmm. Sounds like Obo isn't happy about going on IR:

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  • It's possible that the Seahawks are using their 53rd roster spot for a tryout rotation just like they did with their 7th and 8th PS spots earlier in the year. Maybe Kearse gets some looks in real games for a couple weeks and then they try Tuinei, etc.

    Whatever ends up happening, I'm glad that Kearse got his name called. He barely played in the preseason because of an injury, but when he did, he looked polished. If he can beat his drop problem from college, I could easily see him making it as an NFL WR. He's good at everything else. Further, Keith Price has really suffered this year in his absence. There are a lot of factors that go into it, but seeing Price roll outside and ALWAYS throw the ball away, I can't help but think that Kearse's savvy presence is being missed at UW.
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  • I say give Kearse a look. He's got to have more upside than Charly Martin.
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  • kearly wrote:It's possible that the Seahawks are using their 53rd roster spot for a tryout rotation just like they did with their 7th and 8th PS spots earlier in the year. Maybe Kearse gets some looks in real games for a couple weeks and then they try Tuinei, etc.

    Whatever ends up happening, I'm glad that Kearse got his name called. He barely played in the preseason because of an injury, but when he did, he looked polished. If he can beat his drop problem from college, I could easily see him making it as an NFL WR. He's good at everything else. Further, Keith Price has really suffered this year in his absence. There are a lot of factors that go into it, but seeing Price roll outside and ALWAYS throw the ball away, I can't help but think that Kearse's savvy presence is being missed at UW.


    Interesting points about Kearse, as I don't know much about him.

    Tuinei can't be signed as he's with a CFL team now.
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  • Bring back Deon Butler.

    A little guys that is a burner, knows the system, and has good hands.

    Butler>Kearse.
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  • Hawkadeus wrote:I say give Kearse a look. He's got to have more upside than Charly Martin.


    i don't see why you say that, all i saw in the pre season was charlie martin and kearse making plays.. i'm a coug so i didn't see a lot of kearse in college, didn't see all the easy drops... but i did see good catches in pre season, and charlie marting, that little dude's got heart... i say give it a shot...
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  • Bummer about Obo, IMO he contributes more to the team than most people realize and is quite versatile. He has always performed at least adequately (and sometimes very well) when our starters have gone down and we needed him to fill in.

    Kearse? I dunno, the dude is just sooo frustrating to watch. Almost Braylon Edwardsesque in his ability to make crazy freak circus catches one minute and then have a perfectly thrown ball bounce right off his hands the next minute. I hope he can fix it, seems like a focus issue to me, but he never fixed it in college.

    I'd like to see the team give a look to both Jordan Shipley and Greg Salas. I was pretty high on both of these guys coming out of college, especially Salas.


    HansGruber wrote: We lost both games the last two weeks (SF & DET) because of dropped passes.


    We lost to SF because of dropped passes, absolutely.

    We lost to Detroit because our D had a pretty bad day and our normally very bad 3rd down defense was downright horrible.
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  • Reading Obo's tweets the other day, I felt for him with the Hawks not waiting a couple weeks to get better. But given the fact that our only healthy wr's this week are Rice, Tate, Martin, and Kearse, YIKES! I understand now.
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  • Well Kearse here's your golden opportunity knocking...Just remember it's not preseason anymore.
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  • Hawkadeus wrote:Reading Obo's tweets the other day, I felt for him with the Hawks not waiting a couple weeks to get better. But given the fact that our only healthy wr's this week are Rice, Tate, Martin, and Kearse, YIKES! I understand now.


    Based on what Obo has contributed this year, I'd say that his chances of making the team next year are slim.
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  • Hawkadeus wrote:Reading Obo's tweets the other day, I felt for him with the Hawks not waiting a couple weeks to get better. But given the fact that our only healthy wr's this week are Rice, Tate, Martin, and Kearse, YIKES! I understand now.


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  • If Pete's pet, the golden child, can somehow become cognizant of the need to block for teamates consistantly, there is plenty of additional yardage built into the existing pass schemes. The golden child has been pulled off the field of play for failure to block. Kearse and others should benefit from better blocking support than what Obomanu experienced.

    Teamates blocking for each other is a key theme. It's why Deon Butler is no longer with us and why even the golden child is so closely supervised this year.

    This year, reliable blocking is mandatory. It is no longer an option.
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  • drdiags wrote:Welcome SeahawkGeoff. Hope you enjoy yourself exchanging posts with fellow Seahawks fans and rivals that visit.


    Thanks for the warm welcome. Been reading through the posts and getting a lot of great insight.

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    I'd like to see the team give a look to both Jordan Shipley and Greg Salas. I was pretty high on both of these guys coming out of college, especially Salas.


    Now this is something I like to see. I wonder why Salas didn't catch on with the Rams. If memory serves me correct, I think he had some really bad drops early on last year, but then again St. Louis had a lot of that last year. Still Salas or Shipley could be great 3rd down relief value type receivers.
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  • Jville wrote:If Pete's pet, the golden child, can somehow become cognizant of the need to block for teamates consistantly, there is plenty of additional yardage built into the existing pass schemes. The golden child has been pulled off the field of play for failure to block. Kearse and others should benefit from better blocking support than what Obomanu experienced.

    Teamates blocking for each other is a key theme. It's why Deon Butler is no longer with us and why even the golden child is so closely supervised this year.

    This year, reliable blocking is mandatory. It is no longer an option.


    If you want a blocking WR then Lavasier Tuinei is your man. Blocking is more important then catching and scoring TD's for Oregon wide receivers.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    Jville wrote:If Pete's pet, the golden child, can somehow become cognizant of the need to block for teamates consistantly, there is plenty of additional yardage built into the existing pass schemes. The golden child has been pulled off the field of play for failure to block. Kearse and others should benefit from better blocking support than what Obomanu experienced.

    Teamates blocking for each other is a key theme. It's why Deon Butler is no longer with us and why even the golden child is so closely supervised this year.

    This year, reliable blocking is mandatory. It is no longer an option.


    If you want a blocking WR then Lavasier Tuinei is your man. Blocking is more important then catching and scoring TD's for Oregon wide receivers.


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  • It's unfortunate for Obo that in the last round of negotiations that the NFL Players didn't get much larger rosters and a system that matches baseball and basketball for injury situations. I believe in the last round baseball was able to get a 5 day DL designation put in, and they can use it retroactively on a guy who happens to heal up quickly (which is especially good for a starting pitcher who is up in the rotation). I just think footballs rules on injuries have always been way too strict as far as the guy is out for the entire season, or he is cut. It's beneficial to the owners financially, but as far as team building goes, it would make more sense to be able to keep guys around for a bit and be able to use different designations. This really does screw Obo as far as playing this year goes (and thus his chances of making a living next season), but those are the rules. They don't have the option to put him on the 15 day DL, or to keep him on the roster because they have 60 roster spots and can just wait it out for him to get healthy.

    Face it... it's an injury filled sport. Just turn the practice squad spots into normal roster spots and keep the gameday rosters at the same size. That way you can have 60+ guys on the roster. I'd say 63 is about right and makes sense. It will lead to less injuries if you increase gameday rosters by even a couple of players. Let's see the owners and commissioner walk the walk on that one. Would they be admitting that an 18 game schedule is stupid and that guys aren't suffering traumatic brain injuries if they let teams suit up way more players on Sunday for additional rotations and giving guys breathers? Too many times I've seen a guy have to play hurt because a team is OUT of players at a particular position on gameday. That doesn't happen in baseball because they have 25 guys on the roster (+ - depending on the time of year).
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  • Someone should tweat Obo the fact the Hawks have waited years for him to get better. If he wants to bitch, he should bitch at past coaches for not telling him he was a CB.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:I am with Greg on this one, special teams play is one of those things where tackles don't mean much. I have seen Obo force the punt/kick returner to react too many times to think he won't be missed on special teams.

    With Harvin returning kicks, Obo might be missed rather severely. It is not a small thing at all. Especially since Robinson, also a special teamer, might be missing as well.



    Lane looked pretty good last week.
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  • HawkWow wrote:Someone should tweat Obo the fact the Hawks have waited years for him to get better. If he wants to bitch, he should bitch at past coaches for not telling him he was a CB.


    Not like we were expecting Larry Fitz when we drafted him in the 7th round. He's already outperformed expectations by not being cut.
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  • hawksfan515 wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:Someone should tweat Obo the fact the Hawks have waited years for him to get better. If he wants to bitch, he should bitch at past coaches for not telling him he was a CB.


    Not like we were expecting Larry Fitz when we drafted him in the 7th round. He's already outperformed expectations by not being cut.


    That pretty much sums up the situation, don't it? This is a guy that is likely sweating bullets every time it's tme to get down to 53...but he has the audacity to publicly suggest the Hawks quit on him? WTF? Gimme' a break, Obo. Good luck in Canada.
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  • Goodness -- lots of negative vibes towards Obo. The dude gave everything he had to give, and is pissed he can't keep playing. Who can blame him? He's supposed to be happy he's done for the year?

    Show the guy some respect.
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  • Yeah, how anyone can find fault in Obo is beyond me. He's what NFL #5's are about; solid on special teams, provide average WR ability, and not make you sign TO if injuries hit.

    I never got freaked out when/if Obo was put into duty or pushed into starting. When the ball was thrown his way, he caught it. Yeah, he fell down immediately after the catch, but he caught it. The definition of servicable.
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  • pehawk wrote:Yeah, how anyone can find fault in Obo is beyond me. He's what NFL #5's are about; solid on special teams, provide average WR ability, and not make you sign TO if injuries hit.

    I never got freaked out when/if Obo was put into duty or pushed into starting. When the ball was thrown his way, he caught it. Yeah, he fell down immediately after the catch, but he caught it. The definition of servicable.


    The only time he didn't catch the ball well was the game at Arizona. Even with that though, he was open quite a lot. He could've had the game winner too, because T-Jack threw it to him on 3rd down in overtime, and he was in field goal range and he dropped it......
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  • He had some good games in 2010. New Orleans sticks out.
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  • Hawkstorian wrote:Goodness -- lots of negative vibes towards Obo. The dude gave everything he had to give, and is pissed he can't keep playing. Who can blame him? He's supposed to be happy he's done for the year?

    Show the guy some respect.


    Pretty pathetic if you ask me. And shines a giant spotlight on the type of fans that don't exactly understand the finer nuances of the game. "Score TD's or get the hell out!"

    Obomanu has been a great role player for this team over the years. If you don't understand that, it says more about you than anything.
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