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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career  Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:01 am |
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Yeah I don't get calling a 6 year vet (he's in year 7 now) a rookie.. especially since he had previous starter experience. At least in Hasselbeck's start he didn't start one game and only really had in-game experience when Green Bay would fake a field goal or when he'd come in in mop-up duty.
I think what Lymon is saying is.. lets back off of Wilson's enshrinement into Canton. Lets hold off on calling him the next Montana or even the next Brees..
If he develops into any of those things.. lets face it.. NO Seahawk fan alive is going to be pissed off about that, lol. But he's played ELEVEN games.. let's at least wait until he gets 3 years of starting under his belt before we go out throwing historical comparisons to the kid. And if he breaks some records this season.. that's good too.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:16 am |
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He is rewriting history with everything.he is doing. I fully plan on celebrating that and enjoying it all along the way. In my OP there was no disrepect meant....the reality is Wilson is putting up those numbers.....its a shame not to be excited.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:16 am |
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volsunghawk wrote: Scottemojo wrote: He's no troll. He's just sour today. I don't know. That point about the definition of what a rookie is is so stupid, it's got to be trolling.  So now anytime I say anything that is just dumb, I get to claim I was trolling? I can work with that.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:21 am |
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Russel Wilson could break every passing record in the books. I love Hass like a brother but he never did that.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:28 am |
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volsunghawk wrote: Scottemojo wrote: He's no troll. He's just sour today. I don't know. That point about the definition of what a rookie is is so stupid, it's got to be trolling. Please explain. Perhaps you can tell me what the proper definition is for 'rookie' in professional sports?
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:31 am |
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LymonHawk wrote: volsunghawk wrote: Scottemojo wrote: He's no troll. He's just sour today. I don't know. That point about the definition of what a rookie is is so stupid, it's got to be trolling. Please explain. Perhaps you can tell me what the proper definition is for 'rookie' in professional sports? You used the label "Seahawks rookie" for 2 people who were in completely different stages of their career. You're not a rookie again just because you switch teams. Your previous experience is still just that, experience. _________________ Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:33 am |
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BTW Russell Wilson is on pace for about 450 TD's, assuming he plays at a consistent level and is able to avoid injury for 17 seasons. Just FYI. NBD.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:36 am |
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T-Sizzle wrote: He is rewriting history with everything.he is doing. I fully plan on celebrating that and enjoying it all along the way. In my OP there was no disrepect meant....the reality is Wilson is putting up those numbers.....its a shame not to be excited. What history have I been rewriting?
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:38 am |
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Hasselbeck's rookie season with the Titans really was substantially better than Jake Locker's rookie season.
Jerry Rice's rookie season with the Seahawks was very disappointing, though. As was Franco Harris's rookie season with the Seahawks.
You know, Lymon is right, the word rookie is very versatile. I plan to use it much more.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:42 am |
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LymonHawk wrote: T-Sizzle wrote: He is rewriting history with everything.he is doing. I fully plan on celebrating that and enjoying it all along the way. In my OP there was no disrepect meant....the reality is Wilson is putting up those numbers.....its a shame not to be excited. What history have I been rewriting? You should really not need me to answer that for you. _________________ "??? How do you know he's awful? We've seen the guy play 2 regular season games." -SoulfishHawk "16 starts in 9 years is all you need to know." - Tsizzle "OMFG! LOL! Are you for real?" -ivotuk
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:45 am |
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Zebulon Dak wrote:
You used the label "Seahawks rookie" for 2 people who were in completely different stages of their career. You're not a rookie again just because you switch teams. Your previous experience is still just that, experience.
You are correct. Hass' was in his third year when he came here. If you want to compare his rookie stats, you should start with his first year with GB......but that's not what happened, is it?
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:47 am |
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T-Sizzle wrote: LymonHawk wrote: T-Sizzle wrote: He is rewriting history with everything.he is doing. I fully plan on celebrating that and enjoying it all along the way. In my OP there was no disrepect meant....the reality is Wilson is putting up those numbers.....its a shame not to be excited. What history have I been rewriting? You should really not need me to answer that for you. You made the comment, now please back it up, or admit you were fabricating 'facts.'
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:49 am |
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Scottemojo wrote: Hasselbeck's rookie season with the Titans really was substantially better than Jake Locker's rookie season.
Jerry Rice's rookie season with the Seahawks was very disappointing, though. As was Franco Harris's rookie season with the Seahawks.
You know, Lymon is right, the word rookie is very versatile. I plan to use it much more. So, do you consider Hass' first year with Seattle as his rookie year?
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:52 am |
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LymonHawk wrote: Zebulon Dak wrote:
You used the label "Seahawks rookie" for 2 people who were in completely different stages of their career. You're not a rookie again just because you switch teams. Your previous experience is still just that, experience.
You are correct. Hass' was in his third year when he came here. If you want to compare his rookie stats, you should start with his first year with GB......but that's not what happened, is it? The original comparison had nothing to do with Hass being a rookie. It had to do with Hass being "arguably the best QB in franchise history." You're the one who got your panties in a bunch over it. _________________ Tanzania¹²
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:55 am |
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LymonHawk wrote: Scottemojo wrote: Hasselbeck's rookie season with the Titans really was substantially better than Jake Locker's rookie season.
Jerry Rice's rookie season with the Seahawks was very disappointing, though. As was Franco Harris's rookie season with the Seahawks.
You know, Lymon is right, the word rookie is very versatile. I plan to use it much more. So, do you consider Hass' first year with Seattle as his rookie year? Nope. He played for the Packers for two years. So really, with all that extra time to learn the game, and playing with the offensive genius that is Mike Holmgren, it is really a bit sad that he is being outclassed by a bona fide rookie.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 11:57 am |
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Quote: rook·ie
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2. Sports A first-year player, especially in a professional sport. Topps doesn't make rookie cards for when a player arrives on a new team. Russel is rewriting the recent history that no quarterback under 6' can play in the modern NFL, but I don't think that's what anyone was referring to.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:01 pm |
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12evanf wrote: Quote: rook·ie
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2. Sports A first-year player, especially in a professional sport. Topps doesn't make rookie cards for when a player arrives on a new team. Russel is rewriting the recent history that no quarterback under 6' can play in the modern NFL, but I don't think that's what anyone was referring to. And he's also rewriting the history books for every QB named Russell Wilson. Amazing!
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:03 pm |
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LymonHawk wrote: 12evanf wrote: Quote: rook·ie
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2. Sports A first-year player, especially in a professional sport. Topps doesn't make rookie cards for when a player arrives on a new team. Russel is rewriting the recent history that no quarterback under 6' can play in the modern NFL, but I don't think that's what anyone was referring to. And he's also rewriting the history books for every QB named Russell Wilson. Amazing! No, he's just writing that history for the first time, not rewriting it.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:04 pm |
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He's performing admirably, especially for a rookie. No reason not to be excited about that.
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Post subject: Re: Hasselbeck threw for 20+ TD's 4 times in his career Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:07 pm |
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Zebulon Dak wrote: He's performing admirably, especially for a rookie. No reason not to be excited about that. How DARE you insult Matthew Hasselbeck that way?!?!?! _________________  Okay, so maybe that pass rush is still an issue. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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