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Re: Mike Carey
Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:31 am
  • sturg78 wrote:I don't believe in an active plot by the refs to screw us, but he sure made it harder to keep my tinfoil hat off. Not all the calls were bad, but they sure were ill timed and ticky tack. Conversely, the bears got away with a lot of non-calls. It didn't help that he seemed really disappointed (as stated in the game day thread) with giving us that last TD.



    Shouldn't that have been 15 personal foul

    Carey..."personal foul...15 yards...decapitation of a defenseless receiver"

    Never saw a flag
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:21 pm
  • I mean sure we got some calls our way, but look at the calls that went against us...it just seems every time he refs we are always on the losing end.
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Re: Mike Carey
Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:30 pm
  • zayden185 wrote:
    sturg78 wrote:I don't believe in an active plot by the refs to screw us, but he sure made it harder to keep my tinfoil hat off. Not all the calls were bad, but they sure were ill timed and ticky tack. Conversely, the bears got away with a lot of non-calls. It didn't help that he seemed really disappointed (as stated in the game day thread) with giving us that last TD.



    Shouldn't that have been 15 personal foul

    Carey..."personal foul...15 yards...decapitation of a defenseless receiver"

    Never saw a flag


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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:00 pm
  • Notice all the "famous" carey's are comedians? Time for a new job Mike!
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:51 pm
  • I just rewatched the game on Rewind and a couple notes on the refs...

    1. If you watch the live game angle...not all the endzone angle replays they showed...Lynch's left knee is on the ground, and clearly IMO.

    2. On Bennett's deep drop in the second quarter Clemons was literally TACKLED by their right tackle, directly in front of Carey. The RT grabs Clemons by the front of the shoulder pads and in the horsecollar area in back and just flat out tackles him a split second before Clemons commits a violent crime on Cutler. Four times I watched that play because I could not believe Carey missed it.

    3. On the muffed punt the referee, standing directly behind the play with a beautiful angle, signals Bears ball before ANY possession is established. The returner and Maragos dive for the ball and the referee instantly signals Bears ball despite the fact that on the replay it looks like Maragos has possession immediately.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:18 pm
  • "Carey was just doing his job. He was told to keep the game close due to the action in Vegas (line was Seahawks +3.5, I think), but he, personally, wanted the Bears to win. So he wanted to see the game end in a 1 2 or 3 point win for Chicago, but because Russell Wilson could not accept the Seahawks losing that game, Carey was forced to give the Hawks the game on the Rice TD (which gets the job done for Vegas and explains why Carey was so butthurt about calling the game for Seattle at the end)."

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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:55 pm
  • Just caught a clip of the Rice catch in the final drive with 30 seconds left and Pete is running onto the field towards the ref's signaling TO. I thought it seemed like he was making absolutely sure they didn't ignore him and let the clock run. This may not sound like Much but when you factor in these same officials missed him calling TO in the Rams game, on the trick FG that gave them 7 points and eventually cost us the game, I got more the feeling that he knows Carey is deliberately trying to screw the Seahawks and so he was making a public display so as they couldn't ignore him.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:25 pm
  • chawx wrote:"Carey was just doing his job. He was told to keep the game close due to the action in Vegas (line was Seahawks +3.5, I think), but he, personally, wanted the Bears to win. So he wanted to see the game end in a 1 2 or 3 point win for Chicago, but because Russell Wilson could not accept the Seahawks losing that game, Carey was forced to give the Hawks the game on the Rice TD (which gets the job done for Vegas and explains why Carey was so butthurt about calling the game for Seattle at the end)."

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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:41 pm
  • I think its time for the NFL to flush the toilet, and bring in people who for real closely watch and call a great game. I think its a general consensus that, among many refs, its ok to flag the piss out of the hawks. Dont know why. I've been watching the hawks forever and the refs have had their way with the hawks more than not. Whens the last time you said the refs called a good game?
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:24 pm
  • drdiags wrote:
    Seahawk Sailor wrote:Those of you who have the game recorded, can you say for sure?


    There wasn't a bean bag thrown from the game telecast nor the all-22 shots I looked at. Not sure why the ref was so quick to signal Bears ball. He must have been suffering jet lag.


    That does it for me. What better proof of bias do you want? You throw the bean bag on a turnover. Then you determine possession. He signaled possession before the players even hit the ground, not even bothering with the bean bag. Why would he do that unless it didn't matter who actually had possession? He was going to call Bears' ball no matter what.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:32 pm
  • One omission from the unofficial sportsline research; CHI was called for one personal foul, a horsecollar tackle by Urlacher.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:05 pm
  • SoCalSeahawk wrote:One omission from the unofficial sportsline research; CHI was called for one personal foul, a horsecollar tackle by Urlacher.


    Good point. I thought that was a pretty good call. I definitely didn't see it at first, all I thought was "huh, Leon got tackled kinda funny there".
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:47 am
  • NJSeaHawk wrote:I mean sure we got some calls our way, but look at the calls that went against us...it just seems every time he refs we are always on the losing end.


    We got a key non call in the game. If there was a conspiracy against the Seahawks by the officiating crew they would have called Baldwin for offense pass interference on a key first down in the game winning drive.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:16 am
  • Just because one guy, the same guy that called the horse collar on Washington's tackle, doesn't show bias, it doesn't clear the others as such

    Go watch the horse collar call and note how much explaining the official had to do to Carey before Carey would finally make the call. Carey did overturn another call by saying Wilson was out of the pocket. Do you believe he would have done that if it favored the Bears?
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:44 pm
  • RichNhansom wrote:
    Go watch the horse collar call and note how much explaining the official had to do to Carey before Carey would finally make the call. Carey did overturn another call by saying Wilson was out of the pocket. Do you believe he would have done that if it favored the Bears?


    I have no idea what he would have done. I don't think you do either. The most egregious call was the muffed punt...Carey didn't make that call.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Wed Dec 05, 2012 3:13 pm
  • Exactly..ref had a hand up in the air for the Bears WAY too fast.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:22 pm
  • RichNhansom wrote:Just because one guy, the same guy that called the horse collar on Washington's tackle, doesn't show bias, it doesn't clear the others as such

    Go watch the horse collar call and note how much explaining the official had to do to Carey before Carey would finally make the call. Carey did overturn another call by saying Wilson was out of the pocket. Do you believe he would have done that if it favored the Bears?



    But Wilson was out of the pocket, it was a good call. We can't get angry at good calls.
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Re: Mike Carey since 2008
Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:21 am
  • We don't know when the flag was thrown so it's not automatic that he was out of the pocket and the by itself is meaningless but when put into the context of that game it suddenly looks more suspicious whether it was the right call or not.
    The officials get away with these types of games because you can justify any call, as a mistake if need be but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture, like Hasselbeck's chop block. Out of context it is just a bad call.

    With this crew you don't even need to isolate one game, we have years of tape to analyse and the trend has been consistent through all of them. That becomes to much information to ignore or excuse away one call at a time.
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