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    Oh I agree, Browner dropping that appeal had the FO's hands all over it. Browner really has to trust them to do that for them. I wonder if informal contract extension talks have already commenced ?
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  • Should probably put a 'SPECULATION:' disclaimer in the title here.
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  • First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

    That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

    There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

    If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.
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  • makkapakka wrote:First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

    That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

    There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

    If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.


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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:
    I just want him on the field. I don't want him to cheat but what's done is done.



    Principled. What would you think if he were a 49er?
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  • makkapakka wrote:
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    I just want him on the field. I don't want him to cheat but what's done is done.



    Principled. What would you think if he were a 49er?


    If Richard Sherman were a 49er I'd want him as far away from the field as possible.

    I don't believe Richard Sherman is a cheater. If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.


    If he made a legit mistake fine, I think he should own up to it. Not make up contradictory excuses.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:I don't believe Richard Sherman is a cheater. If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.


    He doesn't look like a donut thief to me! ;)
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  • makkapakka wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:If he made a mistake then that's what it is. But I don't know him as a person so who knows.


    If he made a legit mistake fine, I think he should own up to it. Not make up contradictory excuses.


    I have absolutely no problem with them, from within the rules, using the system and the process to their best advantage. It's not my fault, as a paying fan, a customer, that this happened. Why should I be made to suffer for it? I want Richard Sherman on the field, especially as we make our push into the post season.
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  • Zebulon Dak wrote:Why should I be made to suffer for it?


    If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?
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  • makkapakka wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Why should I be made to suffer for it?


    If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?


    Let's not be silly. If he tested positive for Adderall and is going to be suspended for 4 games but has the ability to push that suspension to next season then I'm all for it. And if he didn't take Addreall then he has every right to try to prove his case.
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  • makkapakka wrote:
    Zebulon Dak wrote:Why should I be made to suffer for it?


    If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?



    The good old Murder comparison :roll: were talking prescription drug here people not Murder, DUI, Sexual Assault.
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  • Wiseguy wrote:
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    Zebulon Dak wrote:Why should I be made to suffer for it?


    If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?



    The good old Murder comparison :roll: were talking prescription drug here people not Murder, DUI, Sexual Assault.



    The point of going to that extreme was to illustrate that there has to be a line to cross. But alright then, let me ask: if Browner & Sherman were 49ers, working the system to stagger the suspensions would be all good, no complaints? Also, no admission of wrong-doing necessary?
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  • makkapakka wrote:The point of going to that extreme was to illustrate that there has to be a line to cross. But alright then, let me ask: if Browner & Sherman were 49ers, working the system to stagger the suspensions would be all good, no complaints? Also, no admission of wrong-doing necessary?


    If they were 49ers I'd probably hate them. If there was the possibility that we wouldn't have to play against them I'd be all for it.

    Guys get suspended and appeal suspensions all the time. Never once has how I felt about it mattered.
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  • Umm shouldn't the title of this read appeal instead of suspension?
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  • makkapakka wrote:
    The point of going to that extreme was to illustrate that there has to be a line to cross. But alright then, let me ask: if Browner & Sherman were 49ers, working the system to stagger the suspensions would be all good, no complaints? Also, no admission of wrong-doing necessary?


    You don't know the circumstances as to why the case has been pushed back. In Shermans defense, he may have knowledge of why the results transpired the way they did, but he just needs time to collect the evidence. Browner seemingly acknowledged his wrong doing and accepted his penalty. Just because Browner was tagged for PED's, does not mean Sherman will as well.

    Since you brought up the comparison to homicide earlier, do homicide suspects not get the opportunity to prove their innocence? Seems like your mind is made up. I would much rather postpone the hearing until the ones in question are able to gather their evidence, then to hold some one who may be innocent at fault because we wanted a outcome asap.
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  • So great for us if it does actually get pushed back. The final decision could go either way, but I was one of those guys who would rather risk missing games next year as opposed to this year.
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  • makkapakka wrote:First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

    That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

    There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

    If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.


    The court system is screwed up anyway. It rewards Prosecuting Attorney's for getting fast results, and often times (IMHO its more often they we would like to admit) people take plea deals when innocent and plead guilty as to not risk getting the max penalty. Don't believe me? Look up Brian Banks.

    I don't know what to think either way, but I don't need a public apology, and am not about to condemn anyone without being shown proof.
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  • makkapakka wrote:If a key player committed murder and went to jail would you ask the same question? If no, where do you draw the line? Somewhere between dog fighting and steroids?


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    Makes sense.. I can totally see the correlation between Adderall and murder.
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  • Won't this mess up Pete's 4 year plan starting out next year short handed?
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:Won't this mess up Pete's 4 year plan starting out next year short handed?

    Think there might be a leap year involved or something.....
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  • Interesting........lets see how it plays out for Sherm.
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  • any thoughts to the NFL.com article calling for a Seattle-GB matchup as #1 on christmas list? They probably realize we don't make it without Sherman (possibly) and thus want to make sure we make it into the playoffs giving us the "dream" re-match.

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  • Evil_Shenanigans wrote:Umm shouldn't the title of this read appeal instead of suspension?


    Yeah there is really no news here.
    suspension has not been pushed back till next season. Not even sure where the OP got that idea from the article.
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  • sutz wrote:Let's not get ahead of ourselves, here. I see a lot of "ifs" and "coulds" in there. I'm hopeful this is good news, but I'll believe it when it happens.

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  • Sports Hernia wrote:I think Rog is tired of getting sued by players.



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  • Sprfunk wrote:
    makkapakka wrote:First off let me say that I'm as pumped and jacked about a good young Seahawks team as anyone.

    That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.

    There is a reason why this stuff is banned. Have a google of 'Adderall dangerous side effects'. If some guys get away with it, then more guys will get away with it, and eventually virtually everyone in the league will have to keep up with the joneses. Worst though would be the pressure on up-and-coming-kids to keep up, most of whom will never see the NFL.

    If he's guilty the thing to do man up about it. A public apology would be a good start (perhaps I missed it but I didn't hear one from Browner?). If he's guilty I think it's lame to work the appeal system and pretend otherwise.


    The court system is screwed up anyway. It rewards Prosecuting Attorney's for getting fast results, and often times (IMHO its more often they we would like to admit) people take plea deals when innocent and plead guilty as to not risk getting the max penalty. Don't believe me? Look up Brian Banks.

    I don't know what to think either way, but I don't need a public apology, and am not about to condemn anyone without being shown proof.


    1. This isn't in the courts.
    2. This isn't a criminal matter. There is no prosecutor.
    3. This isn't at all similar in any way shape or form to what happened to Brian Banks.
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    This is fantastic!


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  • MODS:

    PLEASE edit the topic title as it's totally misleading.

    I don't get ANYTHING from the linked article that indicates that either the appeal or the suspension is known to be pushed back to the 2013 season.

    I haven't seen ANYTHING on any other media to suggest that the status has changed at all. We've known for a while now that Sherman has hired a lawyer, and that the December 14th date for the appeal will be moved back. We don't know ANYTHING about when that appeal will occur, and the timing of any possible suspension.

    I'm really disappointed with the OP.
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  • According to Clayton, he could be suspended as early as this coming Tuesday, or as late as next year.
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  • Very misleading title.
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  • makkapakka wrote:That being said, maybe I'm way off but how many people here think Sherman has been falsely accused and has a legit appeal vs him and the 'Hawks working the system to stagger the suspensions. Browner seems to have accepted his guilt.


    I don't think the team is behind this. I think these are decisions made by the individuals, in consultation with their agents and/or lawyers.

    Since the players are unionized, I doubt that the team can try to lean on them to do anything outside of their own will. It's possible that they decided individually to do this for the good of the team, but that seems doubtful too. The value of their next contract, as well as other possibilities to market themselves, hangs in the balance over this stuff. They're probably going to put themselves first, and they should.
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  • The team absolutely cannot have any real impact on the situation. They aren't even really supposed to discuss it with the player. I'm sure some informal talking happens, but it's entirely between the player and the NFL.
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  • BocciHawk wrote:The team absolutely cannot have any real impact on the situation. They aren't even really supposed to discuss it with the player. I'm sure some informal talking happens, but it's entirely between the player and the NFL.


    Is this true? I'm not saying you are wrong, I could just be ignorant of this fact, but as I understand it, the team is not allowed to discuss this publicly. I also have heard that a team cannot punish a player in any way for being suspended for PED's, but I hadn't heard that they couldn't discuss it at all with them. Just curious if this is your take or if you got this from a reporter or some other source?
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  • Hawken-Dazs wrote:Very misleading title.



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  • Agree someone DEFINITELY needs to change the title - WAY misleading

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