Bruce Irvin looked lost in the Rams game

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Bruce Irvin looked lost in the Rams game
Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:48 pm
  • Every time I looked at him during the game, he seemed lost and depleted. I know he is a rookie and hope he does not get bothered much by not getting to the QB. If the teams are scheming for him, half the battle is won. I hope coaches talk to him and tell him he has done well and just keep at it. Confidence breeds success, you only learn and become better as time goes on. I hope he feels okay and upbeat as we need all of the players to be excited, play hard and have fun winning!
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  • He didn't look lost to me. I did notice him doing more things than just rushing the passer. A few times he dropped into coverage.
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  • I gave him a call to confirm.

    He said that he know where he was at.

    So no need to worry.
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  • He's going home for the REdskins game, Or at least near his old college stomping grounds. Maybe he'll be more familiar with his surroundings.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:He's going home for the REdskins game, Or at least near his old college stomping grounds. Maybe he'll be more familiar with his surroundings.


    Good! now he wont have to Google his location anymore.

    This is great news.
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  • Tech Worlds wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:He's going home for the REdskins game, Or at least near his old college stomping grounds. Maybe he'll be more familiar with his surroundings.


    Good! now he wont have to Google his location anymore.

    This is great news.


    Well hopefully somebody meets him at the team bus when he gets off...you don't want to take any chances in the playoffs.
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  • On a more serious note he's going up against Tyler Polumbus this week. I'm sure we all remember tyler Polumbus.
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  • He has what can't be taught...

    The rest can be learned...like to see him I coverage a bit...and spy griffin
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  • He's looked lost all year outside of maybe 15 plays.
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  • TJH wrote:He's looked lost all year outside of maybe 15 plays.


    Well, seeing as half of those plays were sacks, I'll take it. That's essentially saying he's looked lost all year when he wasn't sacking the quarterback.
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  • He's a rookie and has done pretty well as far as rookies go. I have a feeling the bumbling Polumbus is about to make Bruce look really good. :thfight7:
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  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:
    TJH wrote:He's looked lost all year outside of maybe 15 plays.


    That's essentially saying he's looked lost all year when he wasn't sacking the quarterback.


    That's exactly what I'm saying.
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  • TJH wrote:He's looked lost all year outside of maybe 15 plays.



    I would like to know how many qb pressures he has. That's a more telling stat.

    But he was brought to pressure qb and he takes left tackle out of the play to open up inside lanes to free other guys as well
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  • I'd like to see us run a heavy nickel and get pressure from the hungry players on the field.

    Irvin is an outlier with so many sacks on so few snaps.

    We need pressure from other places!
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  • They're are a lot of H8Rs around here. Bruce is doing just fine, I agree with all those who believe he knows exactly where is and isn't lost at all. He's a rookie and makes a few rookie mistakes but QBs have to be aware of him on the edge. Getting around the corner will come once he learns not to get pushed past where he needs to go.

    Becoming an effective pass rusher is a tough thing to do. Some take a few seasons to know how to play their positions. One thing that is indisputable he is very very fast. He will need to gain some bulk to be more effective but he's a DC's nightmare b/c of his speed.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to completely take the final step. That was done and the final step was taken.

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  • I'm O.K.with Bruce and was pleased when we drafted him.
    His rookie year is going about as expected.
    DE's do not seem to often spring full blown but take some development time.

    In a couple of years, you'll have forgotten that you didn't like the way he played.

    Yeah, I know, Aldon Smith and others have done it. There are always exceptions.
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  • We draft a rookie who picks up 8 sacks playing on the opposite side of a pass rush specialist and people are griping. Plus we just improved by 4 games. I guess if it takes some digging to have something to complain about in order to keep people "happy" then so be it. Whatever.
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  • red bryant in space trying to stop the read option is a recipe for disaster... id rather have bruce in there to make up for any mishaps with his speed...

    red bryant dont stand a chance anyway u put it against rg3...
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  • We all knew the story on Irvin coming out of WV. Even prior to the draft he, and everyone else, described him as "fast but raw". The report was he did not get sufficient (or significant) coaching at WV. With that, once drafted I said I don't want excuses, raw or not, if he don't get 8 sacks, he was picked too high.

    He got those sacks but more importantly, despite his reported character issues, I witnessed an agro kid with incredible speed and as important, a frikin non-stop motor.

    Watching him struggle in the pre-season, his moves were limited but I think he played about every down and never let up. I've now seen this for 16 (more) games. That's 20 games for a raw kid fresh out of college. He is likely spent at this point and who could fault him there? I think he's going to be a force in this league. Very happy with him thus far.
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  • We didnt draft Irvin to be an every down play 100+ tackles a game kind of guy.

    I think people forget this, we drafted him to be a 3rd and 10 burner to the QB type of player. He is only a rookie and can only improve the next couple seasons (which I expect him to do). I think he is going to eventually be a stud.

    And if he turns out to be a flop so what? Considering who we have drafted the past couple years in the mid rounds I think 1 first round dud really isn't a whole lot.
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  • Yes the sacks slowed down, but Jason Jones also went to IR earlier this year and that is about the time I remember correctly that things slowed up.
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  • Posted this in another thread. Applies better here.

    Our pass rush is not "bad", just not "complete". Without blitzing we almost never have pressure up the middle.

    Irvin has done well, even if he did not finish with double digit sacks. My eyes go to him on almost every play he is in (old d-end).
    Bruce gets free and "gets there" incredibly often. I'd love to know how many hurries/hits he has. Problem when he gets there is that half a step up in the pocket puts the qb out of reach. He will get better. ANY interior pressure would increase our sack/hurry numbers dramatically IMO.

    Look at pass rushers around the league. It is really tough for any one player to keep an effective rush going all game long- it simply requires an incredible energy expenditure and no one can do it effectively every play or all game long.

    Also look at careers of top pass rushers. Most are not on top for long. Its a tough job, and only an elite few can string together more than two or three high sack years before they slow down and eventually breakdown.

    Basically, I see no need to worry about pass rush. Although the monster 3-tech would help tremendously. How many sacks does Aldon Smith have without Justin disrupting? Bruce and Clem need a "Justin".
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  • It is clear that opposing teams prepare for Bruce and he takes out the Tackle every play. He is learning new moves, adding an inside rush down the middle and dropping into coverage. If we did not have Bruce our defense would be much much worse on third downs.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:On a more serious note he's going up against Tyler Polumbus this week. I'm sure we all remember tyler Polumbus.


    Ohhhhhhhhhh nooooooooo! That guy! hahaha.

    Anyways, anyone know what happened to Sean Locklear? jw.
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  • Polumbus is playing well for the redskins, Sean also went to the redskins but is now with the Giants
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