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Post subject: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:28 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:30 pm |
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They both made the probowl, so I don't think there is much of difference.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:31 pm |
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Okung didn't fit the Zone blocking scheme. If we were a power run team, we probably would have went with Okung. Trent Williams was the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme which is exactly why Shanahan drafted him over Okung. You don't draft a player higher just because Mel Kiper and Todd McShay says he's a higher rated player. You draft people that will fit your scheme.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:33 pm |
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SkinsFan46 wrote: Okung didn't fit the Zone blocking scheme. If we were a power run team, we probably would have went with Okung. Trent Williams was the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme which is exactly why Shanahan drafted him over Okung. You don't draft a player higher just because Mel Kiper and Todd McShay says he's a higher rated player. You draft people that will fit your scheme. You do realize that Okung was drafted for a ZBS in Seattle, right?
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:33 pm |
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Dont we run the Zone Blocking scheme?????
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:34 pm |
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Sarlacc83 beat me to it...
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:37 pm |
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Sarlacc83 wrote: SkinsFan46 wrote: Okung didn't fit the Zone blocking scheme. If we were a power run team, we probably would have went with Okung. Trent Williams was the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme which is exactly why Shanahan drafted him over Okung. You don't draft a player higher just because Mel Kiper and Todd McShay says he's a higher rated player. You draft people that will fit your scheme. You do realize that Okung was drafted for a ZBS in Seattle, right? you do run the ZBS now, but i thought that Okung was drafted prior to Carol's arrival . . . i could be wrong . . . either way, they are both real good tackles!!
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:37 pm |
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For both fan bases, this could be like a Pace vs Jones question. With Okung making it through a regular season, it probably helps many with their fears about him staying healthy. I don't know if there is a correct answer. Both seem to be coming along nicely.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:37 pm |
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Sarlacc83 wrote: SkinsFan46 wrote: Okung didn't fit the Zone blocking scheme. If we were a power run team, we probably would have went with Okung. Trent Williams was the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme which is exactly why Shanahan drafted him over Okung. You don't draft a player higher just because Mel Kiper and Todd McShay says he's a higher rated player. You draft people that will fit your scheme. You do realize that Okung was drafted for a ZBS in Seattle, right? I stand corrected then. I wasn't aware that they were running a ZBS in Carrol's first year. I knew they had ran some ZBS prior to that. Either way, they both made the pro-bowl. Looks like a push to me.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:39 pm |
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SkinsFan46 wrote: Sarlacc83 wrote: SkinsFan46 wrote: Okung didn't fit the Zone blocking scheme. If we were a power run team, we probably would have went with Okung. Trent Williams was the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme which is exactly why Shanahan drafted him over Okung. You don't draft a player higher just because Mel Kiper and Todd McShay says he's a higher rated player. You draft people that will fit your scheme. You do realize that Okung was drafted for a ZBS in Seattle, right? I stand corrected then. I wasn't aware that they were running a ZBS in Carrol's first year. I knew they had ran some ZBS prior to that. Either way, they both made the pro-bowl. Looks like a push to me. Seahawks brought in Alex Gibbs to implement his ZBS that year before the unexpected retirement. (There were rumors that he butted heads with Jeremy Bates, but that was never confirmed.)
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:42 pm |
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Pretty sure we have been running the ZBS since Holmy's last year when Solari came in....
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:43 pm |
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drdiags wrote: For both fan bases, this could be like a Pace vs Jones question. With Okung making it through a regular season, it probably helps many with their fears about him staying healthy. I don't know if there is a correct answer. Both seem to be coming along nicely. I agree with this. I'm sure glad we ended up with Jones and the Rams were happy about Pace. I think this is a very similar situation.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:47 pm |
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drdiags wrote: For both fan bases, this could be like a Pace vs Jones question. With Okung making it through a regular season, it probably helps many with their fears about him staying healthy. I don't know if there is a correct answer. Both seem to be coming along nicely. question? NO QUESTION
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:55 pm |
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themunn wrote: drdiags wrote: For both fan bases, this could be like a Pace vs Jones question. With Okung making it through a regular season, it probably helps many with their fears about him staying healthy. I don't know if there is a correct answer. Both seem to be coming along nicely. question? NO QUESTION This, Quote: question? sure looks like a question to me.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:58 pm |
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I like our guy. Did before the draft, too.
I'm not part of the think tank around here re. the draft, nor do I aspire to be. But sometimes I know what I want and I get it right. In that draft I hoped Trent and Berry would go first leaving us with Okung and ET.
I got my wishes on that day.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:01 pm |
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I remember reading that the Hawks staff viewed Trent Williams as the superior prospect for the ZBS because he was supposedly faster and more athletic than Okung. I am not at all familiar with Williams' pro career so I cannot comment on him now, but I know that a healthy Okung gives you a well-rounded tackle who is proficient in every way, and I am thrilled we have him.
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Post subject: Re: Trent Williams or Russell Okung? Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:12 pm |
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SkinsGuru wrote: Sarlacc83 wrote: SkinsFan46 wrote: Okung didn't fit the Zone blocking scheme. If we were a power run team, we probably would have went with Okung. Trent Williams was the perfect fit for the zone blocking scheme which is exactly why Shanahan drafted him over Okung. You don't draft a player higher just because Mel Kiper and Todd McShay says he's a higher rated player. You draft people that will fit your scheme. You do realize that Okung was drafted for a ZBS in Seattle, right? you do run the ZBS now, but i thought that Okung was drafted prior to Carol's arrival . . . i could be wrong . . . either way, they are both real good tackles!! Actually he was PC first draft pick. We had 2-1st round picks in 2010 due to Denver's ill-advised trade with Seattle the previous year by Josh McDaniels. We gave them a 2nd round pick (Alphonso Smith- a CB who only lasted 1 year in Denver, only to be shipped off to Detroit) Both have proven to be good players and picks for their respecitive teams.
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