I can't watch football anymore. I love the Seahawks. But....

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  • I think what did it for me was when i feel the rage pumpin through my veins, I realize that the outcome of the game is completely out of my control. It sucks to think about but it's true, all we really do is sit back and enjoy and watch.
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  • Hey Jon,

    I'm behind your decision 100%. It's a game and it's entertainment and though I am as rabid as anyone I've ever known, I have always been fortunate enough to be able to seperate the Seahawks from the rest of my life in a healthy fashion. I wish you were able to do so as well because I have always greatly enjoyed reading your posts and looking at things from your perspective. It has indeed been a pretty rough 37 seasons as a Hawks fan though in some ways that has helped with days like this as sadly a part of me expects a day like today from my team. But hope springs eternal and I have much for next year. Anyway, I wish you the best if you do give up the Seahawks and sincerely hope your financial and personal lives improve. Your 'niceness' comes through in your writing and thus you deserve a turnaround man.

    Perhaps in the future you'll be able to seperate the Seahawks from 'real life' and can return. I for one am hoping that day comes.
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  • Cool to see Riggo still here. Great surmise of what we will all be feeling this week. Like Falcongoggles said we have forgiveness. No one living on Earth today is perfect so we all need to learn to forgive and part of that is forgiving ourselves. We also need to learn from it. I didn't check my BP but mine was high too. Like many of us I've been a diehard all my life which has been for the whole Hawks existence. A part of learning from it is knowing what you can handle. Taking time off and walking away may be the best thing for you and if so do it and feel good about it. Me it really helps to have all of you here knowing you, Riggo, Falcons fans next week :) and all our Hawks pals are feeling the same thing as me.

    One suggestion. Get your family and go out and do some service together. To help me cope with football stress I try and do this with my family to help me remember what's most important in life and create great memories with my family that will last a lot longer and be more meaningful than a Hawk win or loss. Make treats and drop them off at a needy families house, whatever it may help.

    We all screw up big time now and then. Chin up and good luck.
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  • i respect his decision, but not his actions. Some people just need to chill out so his decision will help him chill out
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  • Apparently I'm just an attention whore. I really don't love my kids, nor do I really suggest others learn a lesson from my mistakes. It's all about attention whoring. I guess it helps when I read this stuff and see that this site still has some real insufferable buttwipes. It makes the losing not so bad, because I know their day is ruined too.
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  • nevermind let him have his thread
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  • That was an over the line comment and I don't care if it's gone or not, that was bad.

    You are a treasure for this website, but your life is way, way, way more important than football. The remote throwing happens, the elevated heart rate when combined with your other physical issues is what makes me think you should walk away if it's that bad. I know this team means a lot to you, but after living for four years in Utah and seeing how tight families are there, I know it also means more to you to have a dad around for the long-term.
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  • SharkHawk wrote:Apparently I'm just an attention whore. I really don't love my kids, nor do I really suggest others learn a lesson from my mistakes. It's all about attention whoring. I guess it helps when I read this stuff and see that this site still has some real insufferable buttwipes. It makes the losing not so bad, because I know their day is ruined too.

    The key part of this post is "some real insufferable buttwipes" man. Don't let them get you down and do see that most of us are offering truly heartfelt responses and support.
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  • The Battle #83 wrote:
    SharkHawk wrote:Apparently I'm just an attention whore. I really don't love my kids, nor do I really suggest others learn a lesson from my mistakes. It's all about attention whoring. I guess it helps when I read this stuff and see that this site still has some real insufferable buttwipes. It makes the losing not so bad, because I know their day is ruined too.


    Sadly my day is still better than your kids' day.


    If I was a mod I would consider this not only a personnel attack but one on family also and you would be shown the door or be on vacation.

    This is the type of poster that has as much class as a 2 bit hooker with a bunch of herpes sores on her face.
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  • chris98251 wrote:
    The Battle #83 wrote:
    SharkHawk wrote:Apparently I'm just an attention whore. I really don't love my kids, nor do I really suggest others learn a lesson from my mistakes. It's all about attention whoring. I guess it helps when I read this stuff and see that this site still has some real insufferable buttwipes. It makes the losing not so bad, because I know their day is ruined too.


    Sadly my day is still better than your kids' day.


    If I was a mod I would consider this not only a personnel attack but one on family also and you would be shown the door or be on vacation.

    This is the type of poster that has as much class as a 2 bit hooker with a bunch of herpes sores on her face.


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  • One down, one to go. WTF-over on MLOHawks comment? That was a below the belt shot followed by biting part of an ear off.
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  • falcongoggles wrote:One down, one to go. WTF-over on MLOHawks comment? That was a below the belt shot followed by biting part of an ear off.

    His post and my response were deleted. Has he been? He should have IMO.
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  • hawksfansinceday1 wrote:
    falcongoggles wrote:One down, one to go. WTF-over on MLOHawks comment? That was a below the belt shot followed by biting part of an ear off.

    His post and my response were deleted. Has he been? He should have IMO.


    Its taken care of.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
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    falcongoggles wrote:One down, one to go. WTF-over on MLOHawks comment? That was a below the belt shot followed by biting part of an ear off.

    His post and my response were deleted. Has he been? He should have IMO.


    Its taken care of.

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  • Nothing to be upset about.

    We had a hell of a year.

    We have a QB that has proven he IS a money player, putting the team on his back when his RB could barely get him 2 yards in a carry. He was accurate and dangerous, throwing smart passes against a fast defense in the waning moments of a game and he brought us back to take the lead!

    The Seahawks showed themselves to be a team that can come back from the brink and never quits. A LOT of teams would have folded at the half, even in the playoffs. This defense kept playing and kept us in it, and this offense kept battling back to finally take the lead.

    To be honest, it was a hell of a football game. And Seattle showed itself to be a great team. Nothing to be ashamed about in losing that game. Yes, some bone-headed defensive calls at the end, but the Falcons are a team with a good experienced QB throwing the ball up with almost no pressure, to a group of near All-Pro receivers. Some of those guys are going to catch the ball sometimes. It was just a bad time for us, good time for them.

    We have nothing to hang our heads about. Our team is young, strong and frankly would have won with Clemons in. We lost a game that could have gone either way in the final seconds. That is just great football, not a bad team.
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  • bellingerga wrote:get some anger management counseling, and I dont mean this as a shot. It will help you find ways to deal with getting that pissed off, and of course remember it's just a game.

    Would hate to lose a fellow seahawk fan, but if you do not comeback, good luck in life and take care.

    Just take a nice long break from it though, thats for sure.


    This^....and Bellingerga is giving you the best gift you could hope for...if you consider his advice. I live in an area and work in a field that is prone to fights (very much so). I was on my 4th assault charge and facing jail when my attorney advised me to enroll in an alternative to violence class. I actually enjoy fighting so signed up only so the judge might give me a break. Little did I know that once I accepted the fact I wasn't living right, the class likely saved my life.

    I was in a situation with a former adversary recently where he called me out. I'd beat this guy in the ring and on the street before and knew I would emerge victorious....but then a little light went off in my head and I walked away. I was concerned how I would feel the next morning. I woke up, considered the nite before...and felt awesome. Later I learned the guy had a razor and planned on using it.

    Buddah teaches that once you engage, you've already lost the fight. Go see someone dude. Not just for your kids but for yourself as well. You'll become whole, you'll love yourself again and I wish you luck.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    hawksfansinceday1 wrote:
    falcongoggles wrote:One down, one to go. WTF-over on MLOHawks comment? That was a below the belt shot followed by biting part of an ear off.

    His post and my response were deleted. Has he been? He should have IMO.


    Its taken care of.

    JSeahawk, you're an alright guy.

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  • I had something similar happen to me last year when the Falcons lost to the Giants. My wife, a lifelong Falcon fan, started flying off the handle. She was throwing cd cases at me. She threw our kids toys at the wall, she broke a window. Granted, the window was an accident, but the kids were crying all the same. Now, my kids are doing the same damn thing. They watch the games with me, but I don't think they are paying attention. They are just waiting for an excuse to break shit, just like their mother. Anyhow, I hope this helps.
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  • Sorry I caused trouble guys. I never in all my years have done anything I felt was an attempt at drawing attention to myself. I didn't ever try to use this place as a spot to show of my writing to get other jobs, I haven't been mean to folks, I've tried to offer insight on the players like Turbin, Wagner, and McQuistan who have come out of the intermountain region. I just tried to be a good board member and treat others with respect (and some playful fake arguing back and forth).

    This post was put up for 3 reasons.

    1- As an apology to my family so they'd see I was serious.

    2- As a warning to others about what can happen if you let this stuff consume you.

    3- Just as a confession to you all that I felt badly about what I had done and hope none of you ever do the same, because you can't take stuff like that back.

    If that makes me an "attention whore" then so be it. I've not done anything like this before. I am filled with remorse, and I need to let my son specifically know that I'm his fan way more than any football team. He needs that. I need that. I hoped that if anybody could take something positive away from that, then it was worth baring my soul and my real name and just putting it out there. Anonymity... gone. My "dirty little secret"? Gone. My need to watch a team that causes friction and now some really scary reaction that I had little control over? Has to stop. That's all.

    As I said... I have many great friends here and hope to keep it that way. I just can't watch Seahawks games anymore. They make me something I never wanted to be. No alcohol involved. Just my inability to cope, and I think it's because I've fallen off the rails in my life in all that I've lost and messed up on. This is just another step and something I've got to make right. I don't feel I was seeking attention when I congratulated all of you on what you have done, in fact I felt guilty that I couldn't be the guy many of you are, and at my age, it's just childish that I can't be.

    Do you really, honestly think that I'd want to draw attention to my complete lack of maturity, my family falling apart, and my need to stop this obsession with a team? It's embarrassing. I did it as a warning to others to not make the mistakes I did. I wouldn't shell out my personal info and stuff if I were looking for attention. I'd go write an article for Bleacher Report or Yahoo Sports. Those are things I've never done. I've stayed here. I've done my best to be a helpful member, and I've met many good friends along the way. This message was for them. I don't want them harming their relationships with their family... especially the young guys I've met here that are still not married or don't have kids. I don't want them falling into this trap I have where the results create the environment in a home. It's not worth it.

    Keep your attention. I don't want it. If it's better.... delete all of my posts, ban me, delete my account. I'm fine with that. I don't want to create issues here. This place is too good with too many truly great guys. I care about them all, and don't want them to turn out like me. I've tried so hard for two years to regain who I am and resume my life.

    I was told as things continued to spiral down worse that "God will never give you more than you can handle." Well... I disagree. He has. I've snapped. I have gone over the edge in many many ways. Football was a place for me to find some happiness, but only when the Hawks one. I let the results that didn't go in our favor drag me into a darker place. Now I haven't been able to heal, haven't been able to get a teaching job which I feel I desperately need, and I haven't been able to support my family. Things are falling apart. I guess that makes me a whore in some eyes. I hope in others, it simply makes me a cautionary tale. That's all. Simple as that. Don't fall into the trap Jon did. Your families and loved ones deserve better.
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  • Also, I too went through a softball addiction. I just couldn't get enough. I sold my kid's Playstation so I could I could shave the barrel of my bat down, to get that extra little bit I needed to hit some home runs. I would act like I was going to work, only to go to the ballfield all day, practicing defense by myself. I would field imaginary balls, running over different scenarios in my head. I would throw imaginary runners out and scream at the foolish imaginary umpires. I would come home with my legs scratched up (I play softball in jean shorts) with nothing to show for myself. Sure, we won the regional championship, but we never made it out of the state. Eventually, I blew through our savings and had to sell my bat. It was total bullshit, but family is all about sacrifice. It gets better.
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  • HawkWow wrote:
    bellingerga wrote:get some anger management counseling, and I dont mean this as a shot. It will help you find ways to deal with getting that pissed off, and of course remember it's just a game.

    Would hate to lose a fellow seahawk fan, but if you do not comeback, good luck in life and take care.

    Just take a nice long break from it though, thats for sure.


    This^....and Bellingerga is giving you the best gift you could hope for...if you consider his advice. I live in an area and work in a field that is prone to fights (very much so). I was on my 4th assault charge and facing jail when my attorney advised me to enroll in an alternative to violence class. I actually enjoy fighting so signed up only so the judge might give me a break. Little did I know that once I accepted the fact I wasn't living right, the class likely saved my life.

    I was in a situation with a former adversary recently where he called me out. I'd beat this guy in the ring and on the street before and knew I would emerge victorious....but then a little light went off in my head and I walked away. I was concerned how I would feel the next morning. I woke up, considered the nite before...and felt awesome. Later I learned the guy had a razor and planned on using it.

    Buddah teaches that once you engage, you've already lost the fight. Go see someone dude. Not just for your kids but for yourself as well. You'll become whole, you'll love yourself again and I wish you luck.

    Agree with both these guys 100%. I just about lost my job a couple of months ago for several blow-ups at fellow employees. In fact, I was terminated and only got back thanks to a win in the grievance process. I'm not far from full pension and while my industry is so skill specific I likely would've found another job fairly quickly and made it to pension anyway, I would've also blown 4 weeks vacation (5 in another three years) and great days off (Friday, Saturday and Sunday). More importantly I was embarassed by my behavior and am greatful for the chance to be seen differently over the next few years I have left to work where I work. Part of the stipulation of me returning has been anger management counseling and I have found it VERY helpful already both in terms of the counselor's suggestions as well as making me stop and think before reacting when shit goes wrong on the job and other people are idiots and so on and so forth. As you can see, I may have always been able to seperate disappointment regarding the Seahawks from my 'real' life but have not been so good at keeping my cool in other areas of my life.

    You may qualify for state assistance for counseling too Jon considering what you said about your finances. Think about it man.

    EDIT: After reading your last post, you're in my prayers for that teaching job. Hope others join me.....
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  • SharkHawk wrote:I think seriously I have to be done. I did something I am so horribly ashamed of after the game and I don't know that I can in good conscience watch another game EVER. I feel awful. Just awful.

    I snapped at my kids and then threw the remote and it shattered against the wall and scared my kids. They both started crying. It's time for me to walk away. Everybody is really upset here. I think this is corny, but I also think it has to be my farewell. Sorry for putting it in the main forum, but it is most definitely Seahawks related, and I am sure many other fans are having a hard time coming to terms.

    Let what I did be a lesson. I'm lucky no pieces hit my children. But I can't put them through that anymore. I love them with all my heart. More than the Seahawks. I've given the Seahawks 36 years of my life to get it done. They've come close. But I can't leave my family without a father due to a heart attack, and I can't ever EVER harm my children by my words or actions. They deserve a better father, and unfortunately the Seahawks don't bring that out of me. Please don't label me a quitter or a whiner or a baby. Understand that my life has been destroyed in the last two years financially, career-wise, emotionally, and physically. This is the proverbial straw I guess. I just can't do this anymore.

    Please.... don't let this game get you like it did me. It was too much, so I step away and hope for a better future for the Hawks for all of YOUR sake. You guys deserve it. You put your butts in the seats and scream until your hoarse for this team. You 12's make me proud. I really have made some incredible friendships here, and hope to continue those, but after what I did today, I can NOT be involved in sports-fandom ever again. Now it's time to pick up the pieces so to speak and try to fix what I've done to my kids in scaring them senseless. No kid should ever have to be afraid of a game result because of how their Dad might handle it. My kids are awesome and they deserve better than the piece of crap I was today. Guilt overwhelms me. I am afraid for myself right now. I am sad for my kids. But I respect all of you and how you keep it together and find a balance where I never could.

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  • I'm going to make a serious post here. I'm also gonna admit something here that might get me in trouble with .net.

    I'm 17, so I'm a minor. I've posted in the shack and PWR forums before, so I don't know how severe a violation that is, and I'm sorry mods.

    This is me. I'm wearing a dress shirt and tie, because I am quite passionate about politics and felt like dressing up. I have a reputation as a very smart kid and the go-to person with any governmental or political questions. I've single-handedly turned most of my school into a breeding ground for new, young Libertarians. (I know a lot of you disagree with my views, but just ignore my political stances, they're not the point of this.)
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    I'm also a swimmer, a lacrosse player, and soon to be football player as a senior in high school next year. I'm trying to get my grades up as I've recently gotten my life together. I want to try to get into University of Delaware, but that looks pretty unlikely. So I'm looking at some smaller, D-III type schools. I want to major in Secondary Education and become a teacher at my current high school after college. I have it all planned out.

    I say so much about my life, because today I've experienced such intense ups-and-downs from a game that I wasn't even playing. I ended up breaking my smartphone, the only nice thing I really have, out of sheer anger. My family is in financial ruins, and I'm not going to be able to afford another phone for a good while. I've been chilling and putting things into perspective, and it really is just a game. Although it is my passion, it may be quite unhealthy for me. There's so much more to life..

    I did say I was going to try out for football this year. I've been studying intensely and working out. RW has inspired me to try to be a starting QB for my team. It is my dream. My ex-girlfriend introduced me to the coach last year, when I was going through tough times. He's been sort of a life coach for me since. I used to get angry and smash things, and he'd always chill me out in his room and just sit and talk to me for a good hour about life. It helped me out, a bunch.

    I know it's not anything formal, but he helped me straighten out a bit, until my asshole relapse today. Maybe that can be likened to some anger management classes of sorts, SharkHawk. I don't want you to go, I look forward to your posts about as much as I do Kearly's. You're a treasure of .net, and a knowledgeable, respectable man. If you feel this is what's best, then from one person to another, I wish you the best in all future endeavors.

    I probably need some help myself. I'm going to channel my rage into working out harder from now on. I hope it goes well. Sometimes we all need to remember, it is just a game. A game that we're all passionate about and love, but a game nonetheless that we're not even playing. Count backwards from 10, take 3 deep breaths, and everyone get on with your lives and try to be a better person in anyway you can.

    Sorry if my thoughts are all over the place, I'm a bit flustered after all the excitement today. Love you guys, .net. Best of luck to SharkHawk.
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  • After the Superbowl i reminded myself that this is just a game, its supposed to be entertainment, and i can honestly say i've never been pissed about a lost since. Dissapointed, yes. But never upset.

    I think its all important for us to remember that whethe the Seahawks win or lose it still doesnt change our life tomorrow.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:After the Superbowl i reminded myself that this is just a game, its supposed to be entertainment, and i can honestly say i've never been pissed about a lost since. Dissapointed, yes. But never upset.

    I think its all important for us to remember that whethe the Seahawks win or lose it still doesnt change our life tomorrow.

    My thoughts EXACTLY.
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    Largent80 wrote:I was so mad I vacuumed the floor.


    That sucks!


    ...bada-boom



    Besides its carrying things entire to far.


    The good news?....when i moved the couch a $20 bill was on the floor. :lol:
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  • About 10 years ago a similar event happened to me. I was a very obsessed fan who lived and breathed Seahawks 24/7. My business suffered as I spent most of my waking hours reading and researching anything Seahawks related. It culminated with a home loss to the Rams on a last second TD. In my anger I kicked a gaping hole in the side of an easy chair. It was at that moment that I had a psychological shift in my mind. I figured if this obsession over something that I had no control over the outcomes of a game was going to cause me to destroy my own belongings I needed to rethink my life. To make a long story short, I still have a mild obsession with the Seahawks but I no longer let them effect me like I once did. I still thoroughly enjoy the wins and bum out at the losses, but now, for the most part I just enjoy the ride. As much as I one day want to experience a Super bowl victory, I will watch and enjoy the journey no matter where it takes me.

    Keep the faith, love your children, and try to look at the Seahawks as the best form of pure entertainment! Like a good movie, you never know how it ends.
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  • Maelstrom787 wrote:I'm going to make a serious post here. I'm also gonna admit something here that might get me in trouble with .net.

    I'm 17, so I'm a minor. I've posted in the shack and PWR forums before, so I don't know how severe a violation that is, and I'm sorry mods.

    This is me. I'm wearing a dress shirt and tie, because I am quite passionate about politics and felt like dressing up. I have a reputation as a very smart kid and the go-to person with any governmental or political questions. I've single-handedly turned most of my school into a breeding ground for new, young Libertarians. (I know a lot of you disagree with my views, but just ignore my political stances, they're not the point of this.)
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    I'm also a swimmer, a lacrosse player, and soon to be football player as a senior in high school next year. I'm trying to get my grades up as I've recently gotten my life together. I want to try to get into University of Delaware, but that looks pretty unlikely. So I'm looking at some smaller, D-III type schools. I want to major in Secondary Education and become a teacher at my current high school after college. I have it all planned out.

    I say so much about my life, because today I've experienced such intense ups-and-downs from a game that I wasn't even playing. I ended up breaking my smartphone, the only nice thing I really have, out of sheer anger. My family is in financial ruins, and I'm not going to be able to afford another phone for a good while. I've been chilling and putting things into perspective, and it really is just a game. Although it is my passion, it may be quite unhealthy for me. There's so much more to life..

    I did say I was going to try out for football this year. I've been studying intensely and working out. RW has inspired me to try to be a starting QB for my team. It is my dream. My ex-girlfriend introduced me to the coach last year, when I was going through tough times. He's been sort of a life coach for me since. I used to get angry and smash things, and he'd always chill me out in his room and just sit and talk to me for a good hour about life. It helped me out, a bunch.

    I know it's not anything formal, but he helped me straighten out a bit, until my asshole relapse today. Maybe that can be likened to some anger management classes of sorts, SharkHawk. I don't want you to go, I look forward to your posts about as much as I do Kearly's. You're a treasure of .net, and a knowledgeable, respectable man. If you feel this is what's best, then from one person to another, I wish you the best in all future endeavors.

    I probably need some help myself. I'm going to channel my rage into working out harder from now on. I hope it goes well. Sometimes we all need to remember, it is just a game. A game that we're all passionate about and love, but a game nonetheless that we're not even playing. Count backwards from 10, take 3 deep breaths, and everyone get on with your lives and try to be a better person in anyway you can.

    Sorry if my thoughts are all over the place, I'm a bit flustered after all the excitement today. Love you guys, .net. Best of luck to SharkHawk.

    Good post, young man. Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders. Sucks about the "relapse" but I was an angry kid like you growing up. You have to find something that works for you to calm you down...for me it was music and poetry. Whether it was listening, reading or writing.
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  • Maelstrom 787 - Can I help you get a new phone? That would help me feel a bit better. I wish somebody had stepped up for me at your age, because then I might not be pouring my heart and anger out today. I was once angry too... and strangely enough have calmed down a lot. But today was not ok. It's ok for you. You're 17. If I could help you hit the "rewind" and get a phone back in your hands and feel like it's ok and you don't have to lose your one nice possession because you reacted the same way I did, then maybe it would be good for both of us. I have been duct taping the remote for the last hour, and it might still work. I got it to power the tv up, so that's a good sign. Looks like I'm ok, as the logic board didn't shatter, it just went flying (way too close to my son's head).

    I held my son and told him I was sorry, that there was no excuse, and that I am his number 1 fan and football isn't important, but he is. He and I both just sobbed and sobbed as I held him. I know he's hurting having seen his dad "go off" because I am a kind, patient, and loving father. I am so down because I have 2 college degrees in this stuff. I have degrees in child development and early childhood education and elementary education. I know better. I've learned better. Yet I still just flat out blew it.

    I'd like to help if I can. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you ease your burden of losing your phone today. I don't have much... but I sure will try to help you rectify your mistake.
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  • Shark,

    1. I am really sorry that happened in front of your kids. 

    2. I am sorry that so many bad things have happened to you recently. 

    3. I am sorry you are considering no longer following the Hawks. 

    BUT 

    You cannot undo what happened today in front of your kids. (no one was injured). We all screw up as parents, and I think the best thing you can do is to hug them, tell them you are so sorry for what happened, and going forward resolve to yourself to never again lose control around them, WHATEVER that takes. (Lots of what others here have already said).  They will forgive you. Now you have the offseason to take a break and figure it out. 

    I have IMMENSE deal of respect for your decision, and I say that even though I love your posts! People react to games and stresses in different ways, and you HAVE to take care of yourself, especially for your kids. That is crucial! And you may be feeling pretty low right now on a couple of fronts,  but what you have done takes a ton of courage - you have not only recognized a problem but are actively figuring out how to cure it. Even if that means giving up your beloved team (temporarily or for good).

    I may not be adding more value here, but after you talk to your kids and take advantage of that "teachable moment", think about what it will take to not let your anger get the better of you. Anger mgmt? (again, it is brave to admit a problem and seek help). Getting a DVR and watching games after the kids are asleep so you get more time with them while they are awake (this is what I do actually, love it)? Going cold turkey from Seahawks games (you can always just check the final scores; far less stressful)? Faith or zen?

    I don't have the answer but I hope some of this is helpful. I am extremely self critical about being a dad so if ever you want to discuss this further or just vent, please PM me. I wish you the best and will keep you all in my prayers. 

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  • Well each of us knows our own boundries, they shift from time to time depending on our age, level of stress etc. I respect Shark for stepping up and making a judgement call on himself as well as sharing a part of himself with us that is not flattering. As I stated before I have some experience with having to humble myself in front of my boys when they were young.

    But as you find the understanding and possibly the way to control the emotions we feel on those type of days I am hoping you will grace us again with your presence and knowledge.

    Take care, don't be a stranger and know that many of us here value your insights and contributions.

    Thank you Shark and it's not good bye my freind it's see ya soon!
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  • JSeahawks wrote:After the Superbowl i reminded myself that this is just a game, its supposed to be entertainment, and i can honestly say i've never been pissed about a lost since. Dissapointed, yes. But never upset.

    I think its all important for us to remember that whethe the Seahawks win or lose it still doesnt change our life tomorrow.


    ^^^^^^^ This..............XL made me realize (over time) that at the end of the day it's just a game. Just kick back and enjoy the game / ride, for however long it lasts.
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  • Foghawk wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:After the Superbowl i reminded myself that this is just a game, its supposed to be entertainment, and i can honestly say i've never been pissed about a lost since. Dissapointed, yes. But never upset.

    I think its all important for us to remember that whethe the Seahawks win or lose it still doesnt change our life tomorrow.


    ^^^^^^^ This..............XL made me realize (over time) that at the end of the day it's just a game. Just kick back and enjoy the game / ride, for however long it lasts.


    ...and there's some silver lining right there. At least they won't be able to rip us off in the SB again. Feel good about that!
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  • I totally hear you. I used to be THAT into football. Really, the NFL was damn near my life. When I wasn't watching the NFL, it was NCAA, but it had to be football. Used to love basketball almost that much until the NBA stole the Sonics away from us. Then something changed: I had kids.

    I couldn't bear to freak out on the kids like I would've 5 years ago or so. They don't understand, and it's not their fault, I don't like it when my wife takes stuff out on me that I didn't do, so I try not to reciprocate. So, I understand.

    I'm not done with football, or the Seahawks, but for the first time in a long time, I'm done watching the rest of the playoffs, and don't really care who wins the Superbowl. I'm a fan of football, so when the Seahawks lose in the Wildcard, or the divisional, or when we usually don't make it, I keep watching the games. This year, we were so close; this felt so real. This really was our one window from the injury perspective; we were incredibly healthy this year, and it stands to reason that luck won't hold.

    Good luck Sharkhawk. Try watching from a distance, and maybe gradually work your way back in.
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  • HawkWow wrote:
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    JSeahawks wrote:After the Superbowl i reminded myself that this is just a game, its supposed to be entertainment, and i can honestly say i've never been pissed about a lost since. Dissapointed, yes. But never upset.

    I think its all important for us to remember that whethe the Seahawks win or lose it still doesnt change our life tomorrow.


    ^^^^^^^ This..............XL made me realize (over time) that at the end of the day it's just a game. Just kick back and enjoy the game / ride, for however long it lasts.


    ...and there's some silver lining right there. At least they won't be able to rip us off in the SB again. Feel good about that!


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  • SharkHawk wrote:Maelstrom 787 - Can I help you get a new phone? That would help me feel a bit better. I wish somebody had stepped up for me at your age, because then I might not be pouring my heart and anger out today. I was once angry too... and strangely enough have calmed down a lot. But today was not ok. It's ok for you. You're 17. If I could help you hit the "rewind" and get a phone back in your hands and feel like it's ok and you don't have to lose your one nice possession because you reacted the same way I did, then maybe it would be good for both of us. I have been duct taping the remote for the last hour, and it might still work. I got it to power the tv up, so that's a good sign. Looks like I'm ok, as the logic board didn't shatter, it just went flying (way too close to my son's head).

    I held my son and told him I was sorry, that there was no excuse, and that I am his number 1 fan and football isn't important, but he is. He and I both just sobbed and sobbed as I held him. I know he's hurting having seen his dad "go off" because I am a kind, patient, and loving father. I am so down because I have 2 college degrees in this stuff. I have degrees in child development and early childhood education and elementary education. I know better. I've learned better. Yet I still just flat out blew it.

    I'd like to help if I can. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you ease your burden of losing your phone today. I don't have much... but I sure will try to help you rectify your mistake.


    That sounds nice, but I really think I should tough it out. I made the mistake, and I feel like I should rectify it myself, as a young man about to be thrust into the world. I should probably learn to deal with the consequences of my actions now. After all, it's just a phone. Maybe I can turn this into a life lesson on responsibility, independence, and keeping my emotions in check.

    It actually might be sort of a blessing in disguise. Now, instead of Facebooking, maybe I'll have to focus on doing this chemistry homework instead of procrastinating and messaging girls, haha. I have plenty of other blessings in life, like a roof over my head, food, clothing, etc. I'm a bit bummed, but now it's just me, my lacrosse stick, my football and my schoolwork as far as my list of things to do goes. I feel like I can emerge a better person from this.

    I'm so grateful that you'd try to help me out with this, though. That's amazingly good of you. Thank you so much, sir.
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  • Maelstrom787 wrote:I'm going to make a serious post here....

    I'm 17, so I'm a minor....

    I've single-handedly turned most of my school into a breeding ground for new, young Libertarians.


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  • Happy trails. Choosing family is always the right choice. I can easily relate to the "taking over your life" aspect of reasoning.

    Just as an aside, I can't really relate to your emotions (specifically today)- the Seahawks did their damndest to kill my emotions in the first 3 quarters. I had no emotions this game. I was just happy that Seattle was making a game of it at the end. Sounds like there were other forms of stress and the game just kind of melded with them.
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  • Hang in there Shark. Do what you have to, I have considered similar options as well. Family wins out every time. They are the ones who matter and your sports passion cannot replace them when it is all said and done.

    Following sports can be such a rush but in the end it is fleeting. I think the sense of being part of something is somewhat an illusion as your own fans really aren't your friends some times. See this very thread of the good and bad of how varied your fellow fans can view you. We try but not all are that connected.

    Best of luck with whatever you decide.
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  • Umm, no Shark. How about that?

    Learn to manage your emotions AND enjoy football. You can do it.

    You know JS and Petey are going to pull more WAC/MWest players out their ass again, right? You expect me to listen to Kiper for thos players?
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  • Shark, you posted something the other day about your mom's HOA. I am not there, I don't know what your life is like, but your anger doesn't seem tied directly to the Hawks. Your anger is YOUR anger, and getting rid of your football team is treating a symptom, not treating the real issue. If you don't fix the inner issue, it will be something else next time.
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  • I'm right there when it comes to wearing my emotions on my sleeve when it comes to the outcome of Hawks games. To the point where my wife just wants them to win so I'm in a good mood for the next week. Taking a step back has helped me and like others said puts the "game" part of it in perspective. I want my boys to enjoy the sport too...and they won't if they connect it to an angry parent, so I know where you're coming from. Balance can be had though...so hopefully you'll come to find some. Stay strong, brother!
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  • Sharkhawk,

    Part of life is imperfection, our emotions are volatile, that's part of being human. Football isn't the issue, thats not the root of anger, its merely an vehicle that it comes out. Removing football from your life, in my opinion, does not solve the root of the problem, it merely hides it until you invest yourself in something else.

    I don't have children, so I haven't experienced that exact situation, but I've lashed out at loved ones and friends multiple times over the years about the Seahawks. It's amazing how much a game that we are not participating in compels such powerful emotions. I never, ever, get as upset when I'm actually playing a damn sport.

    That's my two cents.
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  • It is a football game. A football game. A football game. Sure, I'm not in as great of a mood when they lose as I am when they win, for a couple hours, but it is a football game. A game of football. For 16-20 days per year, they entertain us, some years more than others. If you live and die with your team, you're going to die almost every year, or every year to date if you've been a Hawks fan. Let us clank our glasses when they win, whine a little when they lose, and enjoy being an American in a city that has a football team to make the soggy Sundays a bit more enjoyable. My friend, I hope you are with us next year rooting on our favorite team, but if you don't think you're up for doing it without harming yourself or your family, I completely respect your decision.
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  • I didnt read all the posts, But to walk away from the game of football isnt the answer. A build up of everything you mentioned is a hard pill to swallow. it could have been one of many things that set you off to do such a thing. Just so happened the Hawks game was on. And it was freaking intense! My kid is a Falcons fan and 17 and full of trash talk! I must admit, It was real hard to keep my cool.

    You lost it. Okay. You threw a remote. cool. it shattered just like the twenty remotes I have thrown. But it has never gone further than that! Do you have anger issues beyond this episode? Is it built up stress? I guess only you can answer that. I do not know you personally, But from the story I just read. You need to apologize put it behind you but dont forget it. Punch a pillow, Get a man room, something. But we as men have this normal aggression that is driven by competition. Sports, Video games, lawn darts, or flick football. lol

    You made a mistake, You know it, you regret it. If it isnt a common theme then move on and learn from it. But to not watch the hawks? NEXT SEASON! Makes me wannna smash my screen just thinking about it!

    Take care. Dont beat yourself up.
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  • It's not just a game, its life and I' m postponing death until the Seahawks win the super bowl.
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