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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:43 am
  • It's nice to see some people that know quite a bit on this. Some people like to take the "who cares, it's not my money" and "let the team handle the cap" approach but for some of us this is fun to look at because knowing the cap well can help you see the road the team is trying to follow and gives you an idea of what they may do going forward.

    We're not in as good of shape as most casual fans believe. As others have said, if not for the rolled over money we'd actually be over the cap this year. To add to that, The rolled over money is different than actual "cap space". The rolled over money is gone once it is spent this year, unlike cap money that is there every year (reoccurring money)
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:56 am
  • According to the spotrac website, our cap is at $109,135,140

    According to the overthecap website our cap is at $123,607,144

    Over the cap doesn't factor in the $13,200,000 in rolled over cap money, so if we factor that in, that would put us at $110,407,144

    So that puts us at a range of $12,500,000 - $13,800,000 in cap room. Not sure how much Hawkstorian has figured in for restricted free agents, but hopefully he can add that back in. Best I can guess on that is between $3 million and $4 milllion. If we take the higher of that amount for RFA and the lowest amount of cap room between the two sites, we should have at least $8,500,000 left in cap space, and we still have Obamanu's $2 million+ expected to be cut or restructured eventually.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:51 am
  • Over the cap doesn't factor in the $13,200,000 in rolled over cap money, so if we factor that in, that would put us at $110,407,144


    As far as my understanding goes the rolled over money is not subtracted to the current cap number but just added on top.

    So the cap is 123M + 13,200,000 that was rolled over giving us a cap number of 136.2M this year.

    It probably doesn't make a difference as they both accomplish the same thing in the end but adding at the end and showing in dwindling down as it gets spent might be a little easier to comprehend? I'm thinking that is the way Overthecap.com has it configured which is why they show the full 123M spent...
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 9:56 am
  • DJrmb wrote:
    Over the cap doesn't factor in the $13,200,000 in rolled over cap money, so if we factor that in, that would put us at $110,407,144


    As far as my understanding goes the rolled over money is not subtracted to the current cap number but just added on top.

    So the cap is 123M + 13,200,000 that was rolled over giving us a cap number of 136.2M this year.

    It probably doesn't make a difference as they both accomplish the same thing in the end but adding at the end and showing in dwindling down as it gets spent might be a little easier to comprehend? I'm thinking that is the way Overthecap.com has it configured which is why they show the full 123M spent...


    Doesn't make a difference you are correct there. It's just how you do the math, it comes in the same total both ways. You can add the rollover to the cap and subtract cap values or you can subtract it from the cap values, either way you get the difference which is what we have left on the cap and that number should be a minimum of $8.5 million right now, and could be closer to $10 million depending on what numbers you read, but somewhere in that range is reasonable to figure.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:39 pm
  • I think we're at $10-$11M after moves so far but I need to dive back into the weeds to sort it out.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:06 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:I think we're at $10-$11M after moves so far but I need to dive back into the weeds to sort it out.


    That number makes sense. My $8.5 was figuring worst case scenarios. My best case scenario was at $11 million. I think anything in there would be reasonable, but look forward to find out what you come up with as that is generally more reliable than my guesstimating.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:33 pm
  • I actually show a little above $11M at the moment, factoring in RFA tenders. That will go down dramatically with Avril probably at $5-$6M in cap.

    Cutting Obomanu is the only obvious move to add space back -- but I just have a feeling something will happen with Clemons. Restructure or cut.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:37 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:I actually show a little above $11M at the moment, factoring in RFA tenders. That will go down dramatically with Avril probably at $5-$6M in cap.

    Cutting Obomanu is the only obvious move to add space back -- but I just have a feeling something will happen with Clemons. Restructure or cut.


    I think with Clemons it will come down to where he was at with his injury. I don't think they'd restructure, because doesn't that put the original signing bonus into instant dead money? To do that and re-sign him wouldn't save us much. It might save some cash, but not much on the cap.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:52 pm
  • In theory they could restructure and just reduce his 2013 salary. Let's say he goes from $6M to $2M. That doesn't change the bonus at all and adds $4M to cap.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:55 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:In theory they could restructure and just reduce his 2013 salary. Let's say he goes from $6M to $2M. That doesn't change the bonus at all and adds $4M to cap.


    True, I'd not thought of it from that angle.

    Either case, I still think we have the money to get the players we need, and Clemons' fate is likely tied to their faith in his return from a torn ACL
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:54 pm
  • I'm trying to add up signing Avril & Bennett and I'm basically at ZERO for remaining cap space.

    In other words -- someone is getting cut or restructured very soon.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:56 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:I'm trying to add up signing Avril & Bennett and I'm basically at ZERO for remaining cap space.

    In other words -- someone is getting cut or restructured very soon.


    Or they've already restructured or cut and we haven't heard about it, which wouldn't surprise me either.

    Just looked at the Spotrac website, and using their figures, which don't yet include Avril, but do include Bennett, we are about $9.5 million under the cap. If they balance Avril at 2 years, that leaves us $2 million. Figuring we have RFA's to put in, which will knock a few of the 480,000 contracts off the list, I'd say we are at about zero, so we should look to see a cut of Obamanu, a trade of Flynn or a restructure somewhere to get more names. Otherwise we'll stay pretty quiet in free agency from here on out.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:57 pm
  • Cut Obomanu. That is 2+ million of wasted money and I am a staunch supporter of Obomanu after being the only dude that did not quit trying in the playoff loss against Green Bay.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:03 pm
  • With Obomanu gone -- I'm calculating cap space at under $2m. If nothing else takes place, that money would need to be used to sign the eventual draft picks. If the Seahawks are to do anything else this off-season they will need to cut or re-structure some more deals.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:26 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:With Obomanu gone -- I'm calculating cap space at under $2m. If nothing else takes place, that money would need to be used to sign the eventual draft picks. If the Seahawks are to do anything else this off-season they will need to cut or re-structure some more deals.


    Just looking through Spotrac's list now. They still have Obo in there and don't have details yet for Avril, so this is what I see from the top 51 listed there

    Top 51 contracts (not counting Avril signing or Obo cut): $125,697,830

    Rolled over Cap space: $13,200,000

    Leaves us: $112,497,830

    Dead Money: $891,000

    Total cap used: $113,388,830

    If you remove Obo's salary and leave in his dead money, you subtract $2.3 million

    After Obo cut: $111.088,830

    Add in Avril to keep the top 51 figure it's exactly half of the money in his contract ($7,500,000)

    After Avril: $118,588,830

    Add in $3 million for Restricted Free Agents (best guess)

    After RFA: $121,588,830

    Total Cap: $123,000,000

    Leaves us: $1,411,170 under the cap.

    There are a slew of guys in the $480,000-$555,000 range so it should even out pretty close when we sign our rookies to contracts, because we don't have a first round pick, and compensation drops pretty fast with each round.

    The $1.4 million isn't enough though to re-sign our own free agents, so we will need to make some space. I can see a few restructures coming, but not sure from where.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:43 pm
  • I have issues with Spotrac -- they don't really look at every deal, they just bring in pubished information from other sources.

    That said -- you're at $1.4M and I'm more like $1.8 -- virtually the same in the big picture.

    Can we re-name this thread -- "Dave and John talk about cap space" ?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:53 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:I have issues with Spotrac -- they don't really look at every deal, they just bring in pubished information from other sources.

    That said -- you're at $1.4M and I'm more like $1.8 -- virtually the same in the big picture.

    Can we re-name this thread -- "Dave and John talk about cap space" ?


    I don't mind if they aren't actually using their own source for the information, as long as the information they provide is correct. I do go to places like over the cap as well, but I just like the way spotrac is formatted for doing quick analyses.

    Nobody seems to have the Avril information yet. It will be interesting if they made that deal more cap friendly this year or if they split it down the middle, but as far as I can see out there, nobody has that detail yet.

    And yes, that would be an appropriate title, but hopefully it helps those out who have questions and at least we can just point here instead of explaining everything over and over each time someone new asks :lol:
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:21 am
  • It helps us. Keep talking. We'll keep eavesdroing.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:25 am
  • How in the hell are we going to sign rookies with that amount of money?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:28 am
  • Well, I think the earlier discussion was pre-Obo release. That would boost us to around $4m, I guess. Which should be plenty, especially without Rd 1 pick.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:00 am
  • Rookies don't really cost that much against the cap, especially since we won't have a #1 pick. Only signing bonuses reduce the cap since most rookies deals aren't in the "top 51" deals when they are signed. When you hear about 'rookie pool' it isn't the same thing as cap necessary to sign rookies.

    Sutz -- when Dave and are talking $1.4 - $1.8M that's post Obo. Also, no one has reported exact terms on Avril so we don't know what his 2013 cap number is.

    What Dave said earier is kind of interesting -- deals may get re-worked and we wouldn't hear about it until much later. If you hear at some point that Kam Chancellor has signed an extension, we will wonder if what else changed to allow that deal to happen.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:11 am
  • OK, John, my bad on the Obo thing. :oops:

    BTW, you guys please keep it up. We all get informed when we read this thread.

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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:13 am
  • I'm glad you guys know about all this stuff. Crap, I am going to buy a new car and trying to budget for that is a nightmare.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:15 am
  • I just want to throw in there that I have a hard time buying the line that the Seahawks are going to pay Chris Clemons $6M in 2013 after signing Bennett & Avril. At some point he'll be given a number and told to take it or leave it.

    Looking at Clemon's contract, according to Rotoworld $1.5M of his 2013 is guaranteed. Given that, it would be hard to get him to to $2M, more likely $3M.... meaning the most we could save by re-working his deal is $3M.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:08 pm
  • Not just Clemons, but I was looking at Miller's contract too, but there are a lot of guarantees in there. His entire Base salary this year, plus most of his base salary next year are guaranteed, and although we all like to think that it would be great for a guy to rework their contracts, most contracts don't come with those kinds of future guarantees. If it were me, I don't think I would rework my deal If I were in his position.

    I can see Clemons reworking his deal somewhat because of his injury though. He might get some type of guarantee that he gets PUP'd or something to agree to the reduction which would give him the best chance at a full recovery and still be back in time for the final 10 weeks of the season and the post season. Although that is completely speculation on my part.

    Mebane's contract has possibilities though. He could rework his deal to get a new signing bonus, as he's only got $600,000 in dead money in his current deal, so we could effectively rearrange his money around and lower his current cap value if we were so inclined.

    The rest of the contracts appear like they won't be saving us much, so after those two, we are looking at possibly cutting guys who could be replaced in the draft. An example there is Heath Farwell. He's due $1.5 million this year with only 333,334 in dead money, and we MAY be able to replace him in the draft, but who knows what the draft plan is, but replacing some of the top 51 with draft picks will open up some money.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:10 am
  • Hey John, I have a question that I really don't see answered anywhere. Last year the Cowboys and the Redskins were both assessed cap penalties for abusing the non cap year in 2010. It totaled $46 million over the two years or $23 million per year. That money was to be added evenly to teams caps across the league and comes to an extra $766,666 per team. I am under the assumption that this is reflected in the total released as this years cap, but I can't find that conclusively anywhere, which leaves open the possibility that the cap number we read about is the original cap number, and each team may still have that extra 3/4 million of space. Of course without an answer it's hard do tell for sure. Have you heard anything definite on this?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:20 am
  • Largent80 wrote:How in the hell are we going to sign rookies with that amount of money?


    I don't know if this is still the case but only the top 51 contracts count, and every rookie signed bumps another low contract off the bottom. Add in the rookie wage cap, and rookie signings now take up very little cap room.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:56 am
  • Thanks to Jazzhawk for the link (viewtopic.php?f=2&t=66749&p=898508#p898508)

    Looks like Avril's deal is MUCH friendlier than anticipated. His cap number for this year (assuming the numbers reported are accurate) will be only $3.75 million, which adds $3.75 million back into the cap projections we'd made.

    My estimate with the new numbers - $5,161,170 under the cap.

    Hawkstorian had it around $1.8 million so with the added money, that would put us around $5.5 million under the cap.

    So basically we have somewhere in the $5 million+ range of space available. MUCH better shape than originally expected.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:02 am
  • That looks about right, Dave. $5m gives us breathing room. Enough to add back Branch and maybe some other small deals, plus add rookies.

    EDIT** My latest spreadsheet has us at $5,084,576 in available cap so you and I are $76,594 different!
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 18, 2013 4:58 pm
  • John Clayton has the number at a very specific $6.43m as of this afternoon.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:28 pm
  • Clayton may be right, we're all relying on imperfect information. It's possible Zac Miller's roster bonus converted to a signing bonus or any number of other changes. Sights like overthecap and spotrac don't have everything right.
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Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:00 am
  • Hawkstorian wrote:Clayton may be right, we're all relying on imperfect information. It's possible Zac Miller's roster bonus converted to a signing bonus or any number of other changes. Sights like overthecap and spotrac don't have everything right.


    When I heard Clayton's number, he was talking about it without considering Obomanu's release (which so far hasn't been made official anywhere that I've seen). I also doubt he's figured in any of the RFA contracts, as they technically haven't been signed (from what I've been able to find) and until they are signed, they aren't officially counting against the cap.

    Basically the number is constantly in flex in the off season, but I don't think that Clayton's math figures in any of the flex, and only gives the official number as given to him at any given point.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:50 am
  • Could one of you nice people explain how a incentive is deemed likely or unlikely and how they affect the cap?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:10 am
  • A London Hawk wrote:Could one of you nice people explain how a incentive is deemed likely or unlikely and how they affect the cap?


    If he did it last year, it's "Likely". If he didn't do it last year it's "Not Likely" ... unless

    ... there's a whole table of stuff in the CBA that are always considered likely. For example, a certain number of rushing yards is always considered "Likely".

    More often we see escalators instead of incentives. An escalator says if you get a certain number of sacks (or yards or catches or go to the pro bowl) in 2012, you're base salary in 2013 increases.

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    I also doubt he's figured in any of the RFA contracts, as they technically haven't been signed (from what I've been able to find) and until they are signed, they aren't officially counting against the cap.


    RFA tenders count against the cap.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:45 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:
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    I also doubt he's figured in any of the RFA contracts, as they technically haven't been signed (from what I've been able to find) and until they are signed, they aren't officially counting against the cap.


    RFA tenders count against the cap.


    They are held against the cap, in other words you have to have enough space to sign those tenders at all times by league rule, but I was under the impression that most reported cap values aren't including them because until they are signed, they can still negotiate deals that would change the values? Is this not correct?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:54 am
  • I went back through all the deals and compared my worksheet to what's out there on the various websites. Interestingly, Michael Bennett is listed at $4.8M, so not quite the $5M reported. Without getting into all the gory details, I'm showing $5,665,576 available. This includes the three RFAs at $1,323,000 which counts against the cap, although David is right that offer could be withdrawn or a different contract signed, which would change the total.

    Added Sunday:

    I've been corresponding with the founder of one of the salary cap sites and apparently there was another adjustment just prior to free agency from the $13.2M figure that's been widely reported. In fact, the Seahawks got another $1M or so adjusted upward so our total cap is $137.2M.

    Seahawks right now have about $6.5M in available space, even after rookies are signed they would have over $6M. Probably enough to sign another mid-level veteran and work out an extension with Chancellor if the parties are willing.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:10 am
  • Hawkstorian wrote:I went back through all the deals and compared my worksheet to what's out there on the various websites. Interestingly, Michael Bennett is listed at $4.8M, so not quite the $5M reported. Without getting into all the gory details, I'm showing $5,665,576 available. This includes the three RFAs at $1,323,000 which counts against the cap, although David is right that offer could be withdrawn or a different contract signed, which would change the total.

    Added Sunday:

    I've been corresponding with the founder of one of the salary cap sites and apparently there was another adjustment just prior to free agency from the $13.2M figure that's been widely reported. In fact, the Seahawks got another $1M or so adjusted upward so our total cap is $137.2M.

    Seahawks right now have about $6.5M in available space, even after rookies are signed they would have over $6M. Probably enough to sign another mid-level veteran and work out an extension with Chancellor if the parties are willing.


    Thanks John, I hadn't looked at the numbers since I last did the math in this thread, was kind of waiting to see what our next move was. I was thinking that the extra money added to the cap may have been that extra allotment from the Cowboys/Redskins cap penalty. I'd wondered if that money had been originally counted, but if there was that addition that wasn't widely mentioned, that could be it.

    I'm not sure if we will be going after anymore free agents that aren't our own. I would guess that Hauschka may eat up maybe a million or so of that cap and I still think Branch is a consideration out there, but they are letting him test the market and see that his price isn't as high as he may think. My guess is that we have a number in mind and if he can do better than that we let him walk, if not, we get a deal done there as well. Then with extending Kam, which I think is just a matter of time, and our draft, I think we likely aren't going to see much more "action" this offseason. Of course trying to pin down what this front office is up to is nearly an impossible task. It does seem though that we have the cash to be able to do what we need to do and still have money to do at least one extension if not more, depending on who they believe to be core to the future.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:53 pm
  • Hawkstorian wrote:I just want to throw in there that I have a hard time buying the line that the Seahawks are going to pay Chris Clemons $6M in 2013 after signing Bennett & Avril. At some point he'll be given a number and told to take it or leave it.

    Looking at Clemon's contract, according to Rotoworld $1.5M of his 2013 is guaranteed. Given that, it would be hard to get him to to $2M, more likely $3M.... meaning the most we could save by re-working his deal is $3M.


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    You can't just look at guaranteed money. $1.5 million 2013 is guaranteed but he got a 3 year $6million signing bonus. So $2 / year is hitting each year. You are hitting your salary cap with $5.5 million this year if you cut him. Sure zero next year but you are not going to cut a guy that costs you $5.5 million if cut

    Go to spotract their number is more accurate at $5.8 million dead money. If you cut him next year all you are paying is $2million and now it would make a lot more sense if he isn't productive.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... s-clemons/
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Mar 27, 2013 1:46 pm
  • mikeak wrote:
    Hawkstorian wrote:I just want to throw in there that I have a hard time buying the line that the Seahawks are going to pay Chris Clemons $6M in 2013 after signing Bennett & Avril. At some point he'll be given a number and told to take it or leave it.

    Looking at Clemon's contract, according to Rotoworld $1.5M of his 2013 is guaranteed. Given that, it would be hard to get him to to $2M, more likely $3M.... meaning the most we could save by re-working his deal is $3M.


    Catching up on some threads :)

    You can't just look at guaranteed money. $1.5 million 2013 is guaranteed but he got a 3 year $6million signing bonus. So $2 / year is hitting each year. You are hitting your salary cap with $5.5 million this year if you cut him. Sure zero next year but you are not going to cut a guy that costs you $5.5 million if cut

    Go to spotract their number is more accurate at $5.8 million dead money. If you cut him next year all you are paying is $2million and now it would make a lot more sense if he isn't productive.

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seah ... s-clemons/


    With the extra money mentioned above, and the EXTREMELY friendly cap contracts the three big signings were, we still have over $6 million in space, so it may mean a slightly less chance of us needing to rework his contract.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:47 am
  • Cap space before Flynn trade: $6,839,008 (per NFL.Com)

    PLUS his previous cap value: $7,250,000
    MINUS his new dead cap: $4,000,000
    MINUS new salary in top 51: 480,000

    EQUALS new Seahawks available cap: $9,534,008
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:35 am
  • Shouldn't dead cap be $4million? Looks like you used 4 when you ran the numbers but typed 2

    Just a note - not to debate at all it goes elsewhere. The Flynn move also freed up $8.25 million from the roster for next year. Many people said he would have been cut well in that case it moved $4million out of next years available cap.

    Freed up lots of cash - wonder what we will use the $9 million for. I suspect Kam and rolling some money over for Sherman
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:27 pm
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:44 am
  • We've still got rookies and the extra from going from top 51 to full 53 to come out. I'm guessing about 7mil overall for Kam and rollover?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:22 am
  • A London Hawk wrote:We've still got rookies and the extra from going from top 51 to full 53 to come out. I'm guessing about 7mil overall for Kam and rollover?


    I wouldn't really worry about the rookies too much. Without a first rounder, a lot of the rookies will have very reasonable contracts, and many will take less cap than some of the people they bump off. So since everyone on our 51 man roster is making at LEAST $480,000, you can see that after the 2nd round, the numbers are pretty negligible and can be managed to have little to no impact on our actual cap numbers.

    Examples of first year cap hits from 2012 rookies

    2nd Round - Wagner $783,236

    3rd Round - Russell Wilson $544,800

    4th Round - Robert Turnbin $504,000

    4th Round - Jaye Howard $498,716

    5th Round - Korey Toomer $405,000

    6th Round - Jeremey Lane $421,278

    6th Round - Winston Guy $320,015

    7th Round - Jeremey Sweezey $403,988

    7th Round - Greg Scruggs $404,273
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:02 am
  • There's still the jump from top 51 to 53 plus PUP though?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:31 am
  • A London Hawk wrote:There's still the jump from top 51 to 53 plus PUP though?


    By the time we have to worry about the regular season totals, we will likely have changed the roster and probably cut a few guys and will change enough capwise that it does no real good to try to figure that in at the moment. I'd just stick with the numbers Hawkstorian put in and figure maybe another half million to deal with the first couple of rookies in the draft. The rest will settle itself when we make our final roster cutdowns.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:13 am
  • I've never heard of this "jump" thing? Can someone explain that please?
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:41 am
  • Stoned Cold wrote:I've never heard of this "jump" thing? Can someone explain that please?


    In the offseason, rosters are expanded, but only the top 51 salaries count against the salary cap. Once the pre season ends and teams make their final cut down, then all players on the roster are counted against the cap. Currently numbers 52 and 53 count $480,000 against the cap each, so that perceived jump would be just under $1 million. In reality though, there are often a few cuts from the top 51, so when you do add the bottom extra two, it often doesn't realize much of a change in the actual cap. This is solely dependent upon what players actually make the roster and is impossible to know until cuts are made.
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Re: Seahawks Salary Information
Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:26 am
  • kidhawk wrote:
    Stoned Cold wrote:I've never heard of this "jump" thing? Can someone explain that please?


    In the offseason, rosters are expanded, but only the top 51 salaries count against the salary cap. Once the pre season ends and teams make their final cut down, then all players on the roster are counted against the cap. Currently numbers 52 and 53 count $480,000 against the cap each, so that perceived jump would be just under $1 million. In reality though, there are often a few cuts from the top 51, so when you do add the bottom extra two, it often doesn't realize much of a change in the actual cap. This is solely dependent upon what players actually make the roster and is impossible to know until cuts are made.


    I see, thanks. Sounds like its a pretty defined number. Basically 1 million. Also, I guess if you cut a higher priced veteran like we did last year with Kellen Winslow Jr. during final cuts than its not even something to be concerned with.
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