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We should just end all these Fitzgerald fantasies and move Sherman to WR. Its been 2 years and he hasnt made the pro bowl at CB so i think its time we try something new with him!
While we're at it, we might as well move John Moffitt to his natural position.
just armchair coaches and GMs spouting their opinions
As far as I've heard, it's just this^
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:53 am
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We need a giant banner somewhere at the top of the site with the quote from Schneider saying they try not to move pro bowl players to another position so this stuff doesn't come up.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:03 pm
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i could see it situationally as well.. but hopefully we replace Hill with a more than capable pass covering LB...
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:55 pm
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sainthawk29 wrote:
There were rumblings last year. When JS said he wanted Mark Barron in the draft.
Yup apples and oranges though, Barron was such a talented player that had he fallen to the Hawks they would take him just because they had him rated so highly. I think that had more to do with the team seeing Barron as a future All-Pro at safety then it did as any dissatisfaction with Chancellor.
Chancellor could be better against the pass but the Seahawk's scheme does a lot of things which allow him to play underneath and in the box (which are his strengths).
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:14 pm
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amill87 wrote:
We need a giant banner somewhere at the top of the site with the quote from Schneider saying they try not to move pro bowl players to another position so this stuff doesn't come up.
I must have posted that quote ten times in the past week.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:30 pm
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While it's true that JS admitted He had Barron and Keuchly as the only D players above Irvin, it's not necessarily true that he WOULD have taken him, but that is what was implied. Even so, I don't understand how you guys act like you know everything in your infinite wisdom. Is it likely to happen? NO. Is it possible? Definately, given JS's remarks.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:37 pm
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Basis4day wrote:
Changing a player's starting position is reserved for ineffective players at their current position. Prime examples being Red Bryant as a DT and JR Sweezy at DT.
Not a discussion for all-pros or pro-bowl caliber players, unless you play too much Madden or FF.
Ehhh....UNGER can play at guard and center if needed!
Percy Harvin could start at RB if needed actually...
Would say in this NFL if you can get another DB on the field to cover a "move TE". Or jam him of the line in obvious passing downs? Why not?
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:39 pm
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In fact...you can have roster flexibility and by having flexible players as far as multiple positions? Salary cap and depth!! Get game time reps as well if possible...disguise coverages? If say why not?
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:50 pm
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zayden185 wrote:
In fact...you can have roster flexibility and by having flexible players as far as multiple positions? Salary cap and depth!! Get game time reps as well if possible...disguise coverages? If say why not?
Having players who can play other positions in a pinch is a good thing, it adds to the depth of the team, but that's a far cry from moving players out of their position to see if it will work
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:59 pm
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zayden185 wrote:
Basis4day wrote:
Changing a player's starting position is reserved for ineffective players at their current position. Prime examples being Red Bryant as a DT and JR Sweezy at DT.
Not a discussion for all-pros or pro-bowl caliber players, unless you play too much Madden or FF.
Ehhh....UNGER can play at guard and center if needed!
Percy Harvin could start at RB if needed actually...
Would say in this NFL if you can get another DB on the field to cover a "move TE". Or jam him of the line in obvious passing downs? Why not?
Unger IS our starting center (And an all-pro), and that is where he is needed and serves our team best. He ain't moving either. Carpenter, Moffit, Sweezy and McQuisten are all going to take over at guard before you would move Unger out of desperation. You're scenario is injury based, not which player should start at "X" position 1st string.
This FO has done a pretty bang up job finding LBs, no need to switch a pro-bowler like Kam when you know how to draft LBs.
Seriously, just leave our best players at their native positions.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:01 pm
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Kam got his first defensive snaps basically playing LB when we ran the bandit package in passing situations. The bandit was a 6-7 DB formation designed to create a variety of blitzing opportunities while leaving fewer liabilities in coverage than the usual blitz. We didn't have the DB depth or the offense to make this a staple back then, but it still offered a role which Kam played well enough to become the starting SS. If our pass rush still isn't there, Kam COULD play a similar position if this is the route we go for addressing the issue, even if only in certain situations.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:07 pm
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BirdsCommaAngry wrote:
Kam got his first defensive snaps basically playing LB when we ran the bandit package in passing situations. The bandit was a 6-7 DB formation designed to create a variety of blitzing opportunities while leaving fewer liabilities in coverage than the usual blitz. We didn't have the DB depth or the offense to make this a staple back then, but it still offered a role which Kam played well enough to become the starting SS. If our pass rush still isn't there, Kam COULD play a similar position if this is the route we go for addressing the issue, even if only in certain situations.
The bandit is a defense with More DBs and less LBs on the field. The defense is played differently than the standard defense would be, so Kam isn't playing LB in that defense, he's still playing Safety. Playing a Bandit defense when it's called for is NOT the same as moving a safety to LB
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:07 pm
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amill87 wrote:
We need a giant banner somewhere at the top of the site with the quote from Schneider saying they try not to move pro bowl players to another position so this stuff doesn't come up.
The quote you're referring to is about changing players' positions on a full-time basis.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:08 pm
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I swear to God I'm starting to miss the QB controversy already
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:14 pm
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kidhawk wrote:
I swear to God I'm starting to miss the QB controversy already
HAHAHAHA. True. I need the draft talk to heat up. But with my luck it will be about finding a CB so Browner can move to SS and Kam can switch to LB because it worked in Madden.
That reminds me. We should switch Irvin to WR. Look how well it COULD work!!!
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:26 pm
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not confident on his ability to take on o-linemen on an every down basis.
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:29 pm
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kidhawk wrote:
The bandit is a defense with More DBs and less LBs on the field. The defense is played differently than the standard defense would be, so Kam isn't playing LB in that defense, he's still playing Safety. Playing a Bandit defense when it's called for is NOT the same as moving a safety to LB
That's just a difference in semantics. You're basically saying if a SS lines up at LB, he's still a SS, but I think of Kam as a LB when he lines up at LB. I'm happy to debate but this one seems a bit silly, now doesn't it?
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:34 pm
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BirdsCommaAngry wrote:
kidhawk wrote:
The bandit is a defense with More DBs and less LBs on the field. The defense is played differently than the standard defense would be, so Kam isn't playing LB in that defense, he's still playing Safety. Playing a Bandit defense when it's called for is NOT the same as moving a safety to LB
That's just a difference in semantics. You're basically saying if a SS lines up at LB, he's still a SS, but I think of Kam as a LB when he lines up at LB. I'm happy to debate but this one seems a bit silly, now doesn't it?
Not really, because talking Kam at LB in a standard 4-3 defense and Kam playing in the Bandit Defense are two different discussions. This thread started discussing playing Kam at the 4-3 Linebacker position. Playing 5, 6 or 7 DB's is not even close to the same thing
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Post subject: Re: Kam at LB?
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:42 pm
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jlwaters1 wrote:
dumb idea. I still don't get the love for Jeron Johnson. He's a decent player, but not anything spectacular. Chancellor is fine where he's at.
Winston Guy.
Guy sucked the few times we've seen him.
Kam is one of the top 4-5 safeties in the conference. You don't move him.
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