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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
 Post Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:25 am 
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Hey Jackson was better in 2011 than Andrew Luck was in 2012 . . . And Luck is considered a "stud".

Bold words, McG.

You might compare numbers and conclude that, but the fact that Luck was good at the end of games trumps any stats TJ ever put up.

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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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Hey Jackson was better in 2011 than Andrew Luck was in 2012 . . . And Luck is considered a "stud".


Lol he wasnt even close to as good. Luck had like 5 comebacks in the 4th quarters last year. Tarvaris had 0, I think. Remember that game against the Giants was Charlies comeback...


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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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TJac was a very important part of our rebuild. It takes 11 players on offense to be functioning well to succeed. We did not have that when TJac was here. What TJac allowed us to do was give the OL, Run game, WRs the time they needed to get better. This was a key part of the rebuiding process. If we had Wilson a year earlier, we would have not been ready to start a rookie QB. Pete Carrol came out and stated this when he drafted Carpenter. Remember we could not run the ball or run block or pass protect worth a chit the first 8 games of TJac being a starter. Sometimes I get the feeling that you need to call someone out to try to sound like you know what you are talking about.

I fully understand that TJac was not the QB to bring us to the next level but I am truly grateful for his efforts that he gave our team. Very few would have been able to take the beating he did which was so necessary so the rest of the the team had time to develop and learn


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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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Scottemojo wrote:
McGruff wrote:

Hey Jackson was better in 2011 than Andrew Luck was in 2012 . . . And Luck is considered a "stud".

Bold words, McG.

You might compare numbers and conclude that, but the fact that Luck was good at the end of games trumps any stats TJ ever put up.


But many of those games were come from behind because Luck played sooorly the first half of the game.

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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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McGruff wrote:
Scottemojo wrote:
McGruff wrote:

Hey Jackson was better in 2011 than Andrew Luck was in 2012 . . . And Luck is considered a "stud".

Bold words, McG.

You might compare numbers and conclude that, but the fact that Luck was good at the end of games trumps any stats TJ ever put up.


But many of those games were come from behind because Luck played sooorly the first half of the game.



Their defense was one of the worst in the league though... anyway a win is a win. Would you rather have a QB who gets him team down but gets them the win in the end... or a QB who keeps his team pretty level in the game but doesnt win in the end?


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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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the fact that this turned into a discussion about TJ! TJ! TJ! is phhhhhenomenal.

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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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Does anyone recall how Pete and John weren't nearly as outwardly excited after taking Bobby Wagner as they are after most picks? It was noticeable on the war room cam.

Maybe it was anxiety over potentially missing Wilson.

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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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And it STILL would have been an incredible pick in the 2nd round. These guys got a 1st round talent in the 3rd round, unreal.

It would've been a great pick in the first round. Wilson got his team into the second round while RG3 and Luck went home, and his numbers were comparable.

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 Post subject: Re: Pete: We wanted Wilson, even in the 2nd round
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Does anyone recall how Pete and John weren't nearly as outwardly excited after taking Bobby Wagner as they are after most picks? It was noticeable on the war room cam.

Maybe it was anxiety over potentially missing Wilson.


Probably.

They probably felt like they were going to vomit, thinking they could have made a huge mistake rolling the dice that Wilson would be there at #75.

Is there footage of the Hawks war room when they announced #74? It would be interesting to see if they celebrated when Donald Stephenson was picked.

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