Referees cost niners the game

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Because not calling a fumble,
and then getting the fumble on the very next play changed the entire game how?

I thought this was a joke by seahawks at first. are niners fans serious?
 

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What's more, if they had caught that fumble, 9ers get that ball on the one-yard line. Next play, the 49ers get a fumble some 10 yards out. It actually wored to their favor (temporarily) for that first fumble not to be called. Low FBIQ in San Fran, I tell you.
 

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Even Harbough said it was not a factor in the game. He said he was upset they got the call wrong but if they got the call right he would of had the ball at his 1 yard line instead 1 play later he got the ball on his 11 yard line.
 

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It was a terrible call, obviously, but because of what happened next it had no effect on the game. None whatsoever.

edit: well, except it ruined one of their best players knees... so that sucks.
 

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Not a factor..Lynch knew it was a bs call and said hey you can have it back and I will spot you guys 10 yds...never impacted the game! Hearing more bitching about the punt play...
 

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The only call that really changed the game was the penalty on the punt but lets be honest its a punt, there shouldnt be a penalty 99% of the time and it just should be whatever happens on the return. Even though he "ran into" his plant foot he dove completely sideways and slid on the ground from that barely into his leg.
 

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Yeah fumble had no impact..The punt thing I thought was strange but you could see the guy didn't try to hit him..But they got away with Kap kicking the ball away on that 1 fumble so...
 

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The only penalty that might have "changed" the game was the roughing vs running into the kicker flag, but even then:

1. There was no assurance that the Niners would have scored on that drive.

2. There was no assurance that Seattle wouldn't have done as well if they got the ball back anyway.

I note that the first 49ner TD drive was extended by an IMO dodgy defensive holding call on Sherman, and then the long run by Kaep that was a broken play that Kaep took advantage of brilliantly.

Bottom line, the officiating wasn't great but it wasn't great on both sides.

The fumble on the 1yard line really was bad and the Niners did get jobbed, but as Harbraugh himself said it had NO effect on the result of the game. Indeed in hindsight it would have been better for Seattle had the correct call been made since the Niners would have gotten it on the 1 rather than the 11 (or whatever it was). That doesn't excuse botching the call but it didn't change the game.
 

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Let's all point and laugh at the Niners fans.

Can't wait for next years "Quest for six"
 

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Kaep kicking the ball and subsequent TD on next play was just as bad as running into kicker flag that turned into Seahawks drive for a TD.
 

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It was Kaep who cost them the game--two picks and a drive-killing clock-management penalty screw up.
 

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Zebulon Dak":9s1oh5ks said:
edit: well, except it ruined one of their best players knees... so that sucks.

That was happening regardless, any other call in the world wouldn't have changed it; everything was still in play when it happened.
 

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Lords of Scythia":20f5oled said:
It was Kaep who cost them the game--two picks and a drive-killing clock-management penalty screw up.

Don't forget the strip sack fumble. Kaep held on to the ball way too long there.
 

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People looking for referee errors that made it an non-level playing field should have bothered to watch Carolina get shafted against the 49ers.

I find it funny that 49er fans are fine with taking the advantages they were handed and then complain about bad officiating in the next game.

They lost because their QB throws risky passes to covered receivers. It worked for one TD but the odds catch up to you.

The "roughing the kicker" argument is pushing it. The defender slid to a stop barely nudging the kicker and the kicker collapsed when he felt the contact (as they are trained to do).

Honestly, give how Kap was throwing he would have probably gotten another pick anyway. The missed fumbled was kicked forward anyway so those missed calls offset. The missed interception by Bowman was offset by another fumble giving it right back to them in better field position.

So that leaves the blow to the head near the start of the game call as the only thing they could complain about, and frankly the defender had already hit the Seattle receiver, the receiver was already perpendicular and going down after contact and SF defender sized up the Seattle receiver and initiated contact anyway. It could have easily been a "defenseless receiver" roughness call anyway, because it was a completely unnecessary hit.

As it was, they lost because they gave up a 4th down TD and because their QB was throwing high risk passes.
 

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It should have been roughing the kicker. Defender hit kicker's plant leg while his kicking leg was in the air. That isn't a subjective call. If that happens it is roughing every time. Regardless that was the one and only call that truly hurt SF that was obviously a bad call.

That said there were several missed calls against SEA as well. That ball bounces both ways.
 

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The ONLY call that the 49ers can have a legitimate beef with is the roughing the kicker non-call.

But the play before Kaep passed the TD to Boldin, when there was a fumble, Kaep illegally kicked the fumbled ball forward. That's a spot penalty and loss of down. Being that backed up it's likely the pass to Boldin never happens.

So I would say those 2 evened out.
 

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HawkFan72":1w3vami7 said:
The ONLY call that the 49ers can have a legitimate beef with is the roughing the kicker non-call.

But the play before Kaep passed the TD to Boldin, when there was a fumble, Kaep illegally kicked the fumbled ball forward. That's a spot penalty and loss of down. Being that backed up it's likely the pass to Boldin never happens.

So I would say those 2 evened out.

Solid point.
 

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Not to mention that ball is likely recovered by Seattle if Kaep doesn't kick it. Arguably that single non call kept this game from being a blow out in Seattle's favor.
 
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Is it just me? or does anyone else have a problem with the fact that harbaugh and his coach crew literally crowd the officials the entire game to influence calls.
 

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SonicHawk":37r4l72v said:
HawkFan72":37r4l72v said:
The ONLY call that the 49ers can have a legitimate beef with is the roughing the kicker non-call.

But the play before Kaep passed the TD to Boldin, when there was a fumble, Kaep illegally kicked the fumbled ball forward. That's a spot penalty and loss of down. Being that backed up it's likely the pass to Boldin never happens.

So I would say those 2 evened out.

Solid point.

How about the non call when Lane was hit by an inactive player on the SF sideline. Lockette had caused the fumble and 9 times out of 10 Lane would have been there to recover. Game changer anyone? Please, they need to be quiet.
 

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