Shock2k
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Man, how great is our team. I just wanted to put something out to my fellow 12s with no other purpose then to feel good about our team and us. So this is my feeble attempt to do so through my good friends, Mr. Math and Mr. Stats.
The Wonder Twins: Pete Carroll and John Schneider.
If you didn’t have reservations back in the day about Pete Carroll, I would be tempted to call you a liar. But now that Pete’s become everybody’s second dad they wish they had. Always positive, always upbeat, always high energy. This is a man you would want to go to battle with, and it shows not only on this team, but in the effect on the rest of the league. For example the player poll that had Pete at the top of the list of coaches they would like to play for. (That's huge)
Yet what Pete has can’t be taught. It’s been forged by pure will in the face of doubt and criticism. It would have been easy to acquiesce in the face of “common sense” coaching which included being hard on players, beating them down in order to try and build them up. How many NFL Films have you watched where players say “I hated him at the time, but I ended up loving him.” I have a feeling these players are going to say “I loved that man, and I still do” when it comes to Pete.
Positive coaches are not new, see Tony Dungy. But Pete is his own entity. He is an enigma that on the trajectory he's on, may be mentioned with names like Walsh and Parcels. Or Holmgren (seriously, check Holmgren's coaching tree).
John Schneider is a whole other story. Pete’s yang to his yin. Quiet, deliberate, highly intelligent, and an absolute Jedi at finding talent. Two weeks before he was hired with the Seahawks he was “not considered in the running” for the job (that gave me chills when I read about this). Though he was the orchestrator of Aaron Rogers, Clay Mathews, Johnathan Jolly, and Jermichael Finley, and somebody that I could hug noticed.
This guy wasn’t even a GM! He was Director of Football operations! But the powers that be saw his track record of success in building rosters and made the right move anyways.
Seriously, how smart is our owner Paul Allen? Talk about a talent evaluator (even he didn't make the direct decisions, he hired the folks that did)
So do we love them just because we are in a Super Bowl? No check these stats out.
The Pete/John Effect
Let’s start with the defense. Whose rise has been meteoric!
Pete took a team from 25th to 7th in defense in one offseason! Then put them at #1 two years in a row after that. I mean come on, that’s not a flash in the pan, that is the best defensive turn around story I’ve ever seen.
Further let’s look at one of Pete’s Prime Principles. Turnovers.
Between 2010 and 2011 the Seahawks improved their differential by 17 and their rank from 29th to 5th.
In researching this I found out how rare it is to keep a high turnover differential from year to year. The Seahawks have done it 3 years in a row between 2011 and 2013. This is one of the most impressive stats I researched among a lot of impressive stats.
Is the LOB real?
Also, take a ook at our Interceptions ranks in 2012 and 2013 as the LOB rose.
With that said, what about critical defense? How many 1st downs do we give up, how many sacks (pressure) do we bring, and how often do teams get deep on us? The results should of course come as no surprise…
For me, with Pete Carroll, there is a common theme as I do this research. Find your weakness and make it a strength. For example, in 2010 you are 31st and 26th on 20/40+ yard plays. 3 Years later you are first in the league. How? By drafting, teaching, and implementing what is turning into a defensive juggernaut.
In 2012 you lose a game in Atlanta after getting exposed against an efficient QB facing very little pass rush pressure. What do you do, pick up two studs out of free agency and take your sack rank from 18th in the league to 8th.
Hope this gives you the “Feel good” feelings it gave me.
What about you? What makes you feel great about the Hawks and their rise to greatness?
The Wonder Twins: Pete Carroll and John Schneider.
If you didn’t have reservations back in the day about Pete Carroll, I would be tempted to call you a liar. But now that Pete’s become everybody’s second dad they wish they had. Always positive, always upbeat, always high energy. This is a man you would want to go to battle with, and it shows not only on this team, but in the effect on the rest of the league. For example the player poll that had Pete at the top of the list of coaches they would like to play for. (That's huge)
Yet what Pete has can’t be taught. It’s been forged by pure will in the face of doubt and criticism. It would have been easy to acquiesce in the face of “common sense” coaching which included being hard on players, beating them down in order to try and build them up. How many NFL Films have you watched where players say “I hated him at the time, but I ended up loving him.” I have a feeling these players are going to say “I loved that man, and I still do” when it comes to Pete.
Positive coaches are not new, see Tony Dungy. But Pete is his own entity. He is an enigma that on the trajectory he's on, may be mentioned with names like Walsh and Parcels. Or Holmgren (seriously, check Holmgren's coaching tree).
John Schneider is a whole other story. Pete’s yang to his yin. Quiet, deliberate, highly intelligent, and an absolute Jedi at finding talent. Two weeks before he was hired with the Seahawks he was “not considered in the running” for the job (that gave me chills when I read about this). Though he was the orchestrator of Aaron Rogers, Clay Mathews, Johnathan Jolly, and Jermichael Finley, and somebody that I could hug noticed.
This guy wasn’t even a GM! He was Director of Football operations! But the powers that be saw his track record of success in building rosters and made the right move anyways.
Seriously, how smart is our owner Paul Allen? Talk about a talent evaluator (even he didn't make the direct decisions, he hired the folks that did)
So do we love them just because we are in a Super Bowl? No check these stats out.
The Pete/John Effect
Let’s start with the defense. Whose rise has been meteoric!
| Total Defense | YDS | RANK | PTS/G | RANK |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009(No Pete) | 5703 | 24h | 24.4 | 26th |
| 2010 | 5897 | 27th | 25.4 | 25th |
| 2011 | 5315 | 9th | 19.7 | 7th |
| 2012 | 4899 | 1st | 15.3 | 4th |
| 2013 | 4378 | 1st | 14.4 | 1st |
Pete took a team from 25th to 7th in defense in one offseason! Then put them at #1 two years in a row after that. I mean come on, that’s not a flash in the pan, that is the best defensive turn around story I’ve ever seen.
Further let’s look at one of Pete’s Prime Principles. Turnovers.
| Turnovers | INT | RANK | FF | RANK | FF/REC | RANK | DIFF | RANK |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009(No Pete) | 13 | 22nd | 12 | 22nd | 10 | 16th | -8 | T27th |
| 2010 | 12 | 25th | 16 | 16th | 10 | 16th | -9 | T29th |
| 2011 | 22 | 4th | 13 | 16th | 9 | T18th | +8 | T5th |
| 2012 | 18 | 8th | 18 | T5th | 13 | 7th | +13 | T5th |
| 2013 | 28 | 1st | 17 | 8th | 11 | T4th | +20 | 1st |
Between 2010 and 2011 the Seahawks improved their differential by 17 and their rank from 29th to 5th.
In researching this I found out how rare it is to keep a high turnover differential from year to year. The Seahawks have done it 3 years in a row between 2011 and 2013. This is one of the most impressive stats I researched among a lot of impressive stats.
Is the LOB real?
Also, take a ook at our Interceptions ranks in 2012 and 2013 as the LOB rose.
With that said, what about critical defense? How many 1st downs do we give up, how many sacks (pressure) do we bring, and how often do teams get deep on us? The results should of course come as no surprise…
| Critical Defense | 1st-Dwn % | RANK | SACKS | RANK | 40+ | RANK | 20+ | RANK |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009(NoPete) | 35.9 | 23rd | 28 | 26th | 4 | T2nd | 47 | 26th |
| 2010 | 34.5 | 11th | 37 | 13th | 11 | 26th | 60 | 31st |
| 2011 | 32 | 10th | 33 | 19th | 10 | 17th | 43 | T2nd |
| 2012 | 33 | 10th | 36 | T18th | 5 | 4th | 40 | 6th |
| 2013 | 29.8 | 1st | 44 | 8th | 3 | 1st | 30 | 1st |
For me, with Pete Carroll, there is a common theme as I do this research. Find your weakness and make it a strength. For example, in 2010 you are 31st and 26th on 20/40+ yard plays. 3 Years later you are first in the league. How? By drafting, teaching, and implementing what is turning into a defensive juggernaut.
In 2012 you lose a game in Atlanta after getting exposed against an efficient QB facing very little pass rush pressure. What do you do, pick up two studs out of free agency and take your sack rank from 18th in the league to 8th.
Hope this gives you the “Feel good” feelings it gave me.
What about you? What makes you feel great about the Hawks and their rise to greatness?
