Largent80
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Ink up Steven Hauschka?
He was spot on MONEY, and I want him here.
/Rant
He was spot on MONEY, and I want him here.
/Rant
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Cartire
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His value is probably the same all around. Not a top priority for any team to deal with kickers at this junction of FA. Have to go after harder to land targets first. Then switch to specialist. Then after FA, work on extensions.
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as long as roger keeps messing with the rules i wouldn't invest long term in a kicker but thats just me.
games against crap teams like houston and tampa shoudln't have come down to his foot anyways.
games against crap teams like houston and tampa shoudln't have come down to his foot anyways.
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The Seahawks aren't in a position to be able to allocate $3M/year to a kicker, which could be what it takes with Hauschka. But if we're about to have 42-yard XP attempts, then they may have to put themselves in that position.
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There are not that many teams that are in need of a kicker right now. Let the market settle a bit. If you can wait, there's no reason to pay anybody on the first day frenzy.
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HawkFan72":yhwhee0y said:
This. Many kickers were retained leading up to today.. Hauschka doesn't have a very strong market anymore.
I suspect he comes back to Seattle on a 1 or 2 year deal when everything slows down a bit
Atradees
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Lets pass more and get a minimum wage kicker. They are not that important.
Need the money for veldheer.
Need the money for veldheer.
AbsolutNET
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Atradees":asxvlcc0 said:
Consistently putting the opposition at the 20 and kicking game winning FG's played a big role in getting us to the SB.
Veldheer signed with the Cardinals
Atradees
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Just saw that Veldheer signed with AZ. Thanks. just dont want to waste with a 4 million dollar kicker.
volsunghawk
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True, but you can get that kind of production from many other kickers. You don't have to spend $3 million a year for it.AbsolutNET":2sz301hp said:
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volsunghawk":3v3nlqfv said:
I didn't say you did, but I thought we were past the idea that kickers were not important? Haushka was pretty important this year.
Atradees
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Brandon Coutu? $775. Win.
volsunghawk
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AbsolutNET":jfsb2spn said:
Kickers are important, but they are fungible to a larger degree than just about any other position in the league. The difference between elite and average kickers is almost nil. Let the Jets take the $3M+ cap hit for Folk.
Kickers are important in the sense that they play an important role in many games, but the difference between the 5th best and 25th best kicker in the league is minimal. There are plenty of good enough kickers out there that can be had for the minimum.
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i do agree that the drop off is minimal. But man, one of the worst feelings during a game is when your kicker misses. Its just such a dissapointment to remove (almost) guarunteed points.
That being said, I dont want to pay hauska more then $2, which i think he has earned. If we cant get him for that, then a cheaper option might be the best bet after all.
That being said, I dont want to pay hauska more then $2, which i think he has earned. If we cant get him for that, then a cheaper option might be the best bet after all.
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Atradees":l6m8bnxk said:
There are reasons he hasn't landed a full time kicking gig anywhere.
Hauschka missed 2 kicks last year.. one of which was blocked.. keeping him would be the better option. Highly doubt he's commanding 3 mil a year.
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I realize you're probably exaggerating somewhat, but your statement and others like it in this thread got me curious. So I looked up the differences in stats between the two guys tied for 5th (Folk and Hauschka) and the two guys tied for 26th (Hartley and Succop). No one was in 25th place because of ties.jewhawk":2a7bgjwf said:
See the image I've attached for the full stats. I bolded some key ones and made them a larger font so that they're easier to spot in the image.
Hauschka scored 11 FGs more than Hartley and Succop. That's 33 points spread over the regular season. His percentage of FGs made was 15 percentage points higher than Succop and 21 percentage points higher than Hartley. All four had long kicks between 51-55 yards (inclusive). Folk was the only one who avoided having a kick blocked.
Steven also came in second in number of XP attempts at 44. Succop had the most with 52. All four made 100% of their XP attempts, so it's pretty much a wash there.
My takeaway? There is definitely a difference between top and bottom ranked kickers. 33 total points is nothing to sneeze at.
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OkieHawk
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sc85sis":14svdiau said:
Awesome info. And you are 100% correct that 33 points makes a huge difference.
It's funny how some dismiss the value of a really good kicker until you give the job to a below average guy to save a few bucks and it ends up costing you two or three games in a season. I know how many times other teams have cut their kickers during the season and have had to try out multiple kickers to try and do the job.
We don't have that problem with Hauschka so why create that problem for the team? The first time another guy costs us a game this board will go ballistic with why we didn't keep Hauschka because we were too cheap.
We don't have that problem with Hauschka so why create that problem for the team? The first time another guy costs us a game this board will go ballistic with why we didn't keep Hauschka because we were too cheap.
