Irvin, Mebane among Top 100 Defensive Players
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Irvin is a surprise, but if you consider there's only 32 teams and 11 defensive starters on each team, that's only 352 defensive players to choose from for a top 100 list.
Considering a big chunk of the teams are filled with scrubs, I guess I could see Irvin making the list.
Considering a big chunk of the teams are filled with scrubs, I guess I could see Irvin making the list.
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That's sweet do the suprised if our whole D is on that list.
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Mebane makes sense, if he's off the field it's probably a 3rd and long type rushing situation. But Irvin's case is a real eyebrow raiser, considering that Irvin isn't exactly the most determined defender in traffic.
Mebane makes sense, if he's off the field it's probably a 3rd and long type rushing situation. But Irvin's case is a real eyebrow raiser, considering that Irvin isn't exactly the most determined defender in traffic.
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Irvin graded out as one of the better 4-3 olbs in the NFL last season, his first as an olb, after 9 sacks as an edge rusher as a rookie. He was very valuable as a spy and had great games in coverage twice against Jimmy Graham.
Bruce is a very good player, those who think he has been disappointing are looking for stats when he was given minimal pass rush opportunities last season.
Nice to see Mebane get some love; has been exceptional since a rook in 07. Quite frankly, is amongst the best dlinemen in franchise history at this point.
Bruce is a very good player, those who think he has been disappointing are looking for stats when he was given minimal pass rush opportunities last season.
Nice to see Mebane get some love; has been exceptional since a rook in 07. Quite frankly, is amongst the best dlinemen in franchise history at this point.
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kearly":xzug26my said:
I bet that difference comes from Irvin's use as a spy on running QB's like Kaep and Newton. I bet most of the long QB runs this year against Seattle came when Irvin wasn't on the field being used as a spy. Even the NinerNation boards comment on how effective Irvin has been in that role.
If the stats included the NFCCG, Kaep ran for about 100+ in the first half, then Seattle changed at half to have Irvin focus on spying on him. That game could account for the entire difference right there, 2 or 3 Kaep runs with Irvin off the field. Agreed, Irvin hasn't exactly impressed us with knocking OL to the ground in KamBam style to get to the ballcarrier.
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kearly":3o6i69nx said:
It's the difference between playing our base or bringing in the nickel.
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Exactly. Think of the patented mike holmgren FB draw on 3rd and 15 that goes for 12 yards.hawknation2014":1ccx6yu2 said:
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kobebryant":1zu34a2g said:
Agreed, Irvin did quite well last year. I don't understand the animosity towards him and why many here are more or less rooting for him to fail but he was solid enough miss 4 games and start 12 even when Malcolm Smith was playing out of his mind. Quinn trusted him enough to start.
Obviously, he didn't put up the pass-rush stats but that was more Bennett and Avril dominating at an elite level. And we know Alpha Dog Clemons isn't going to get off the field or he would go War Machine on Quinn. So there wasn't really opportunity for Irvin and when there was chances he was competing with a bunch of rabid dogs who also wanted to eat QBs. Doesn't mean he was bad.
There was a good reason why TE and RBs (out of the flats) production virtually disappeared after the Texans game, Bruce was a part of that.
The guy as a bright future, and its good to see someone recognize his value rather than see others trying their best to trash on him as non-essential.
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Pandion Haliaetus":1psy7wk2 said:
I don't remember reading anywhere on this board any Hawk fan rooting for Irvin to fail. That sounds over the top to me. Aaron Curry he is not. He is one of the top 4 or 5 SPARQ freaks on the team and his 8 sacks as a rookie is a testament to his ability. IMO you may be reacting to some of the anti PED sentiment several members have spewed. If Norton, Quinn and Pete are excited about a player then I'm excited about them too.
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