LA Chargers

Glasgow Seahawk · Aug 14, 2017

Does anyone think the move to LA has disaster written all over it?

They couldn't fill a 30,000 stadium for their first home game. A lot of areas with tarps and a lot of hawks fans there.

I would be expecting any NFL team to fill a stadium with at least 50-60,000 people no matter how bad the team is. The chargers should be selling out a 30k stadium.

The team don't know where they'll be training next year.

Tickets are supposedly around $200 each.

On top of that there is a lot of sports competition and things to do in LA with the Rams only having been there for a year.

I can't help but feel if the Chargers get off to a bad start to the season that they could be in trouble.

Cyrus12 · Aug 14, 2017

yep...will be a bust...where are they going next? Mexico City?

Maulbert · Aug 14, 2017

Never should have left San Diego. Spanos insists a 1/4 of the Charger fanbase is in LA. I call bullshit. I would bet they will sellout every Raider game, who are massively popular in LA. Spanos is an idiot.

Josea16 · Aug 14, 2017

Actually it may be a better situation for them to start small which allows them to build roots in Los Angeles at a slower pace. Chicago, Houston and Los Angeles have no legitimate reason not to be able to support two teams. This nation has 350 million people in it and the population is exploding in Texas and the greater Midwest where I live.

hawknation2017 · Aug 14, 2017

The Chargers have virtually zero footprint in LA but it doesn't matter. Just being in LA will probably double the team's value & the new LA TV money will probably more than make up for the loss in ticket revenue.

mikeak · Aug 15, 2017

They haven't played a real game yet. If they win they will come

Glasgow Seahawk · Aug 15, 2017

mikeak":1nahttia said:
They haven't played a real game yet. If they win they will come

Will they win though? They have a good but ageing QB but a lots of holes in their roster. The Rams may be the team that improve and that all depends on how good/bad Goff is long term.

Sgt. Largent · Aug 15, 2017

hawknation2017":28qmm63k said:
The Chargers have virtually zero footprint in LA but it doesn't matter. Just being in LA will probably double the team's value & the new LA TV money will probably more than make up for the loss in ticket revenue.

This is really what it's all about.

When you're a 93 year old owner, you're looking to leave your mark and legacy on your organization. All Spanos cares about is getting his kids and the team into a more favorable market and situation, and as much as I hate this move...........it makes sense from his point of view.

And let's face it, the team tried a dozen times over the past couple decades to get a new stadium built in San Diego. SD is just as an apathetic market and bad sports town as LA is, so it's not like the team left some amazing fanbase and situation.

mikeak · Aug 16, 2017

No local RV revenue if they don't sell out. Blackout rules

RedAlice · Aug 16, 2017

Are blackout rules back for 2017?

Maulbert · Aug 16, 2017

mikeak":251urnnf said:
No local RV revenue if they don't sell out. Blackout rules

RedAlice":251urnnf said:
Are blackout rules back for 2017?

Nope. The blackout rule is still suspended on an ostensibly 'year-to-year basis', but that's only because the NFL doesn't want to admit the FCC would've slapped them across the hand and forced them to repeal it if they didn't stop enforcing it.

Here's the original story.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/30/fcc-eliminates-nfl-blackout-rules/16480131/

mikeak · Aug 17, 2017

Maulbert":3l5d3vy7 said:
mikeak":3l5d3vy7 said:

No local RV revenue if they don't sell out. Blackout rules

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RedAlice":3l5d3vy7 said:

Are blackout rules back for 2017?

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Nope. The blackout rule is still suspended on an ostensibly 'year-to-year basis', but that's only because the NFL doesn't want to admit the FCC would've slapped them across the hand and forced them to repeal it if they didn't stop enforcing it.

Here's the original story.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/09/30/fcc-eliminates-nfl-blackout-rules/16480131/

Thanks for the information on this. Completely missed that it was removed

Ok yes they will make lots on tv revenue

ivotuk · Aug 22, 2017

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

— George Carlin

I’d say the novelty already has worn off if a novelty were there to be worn off....

Word is the Spanoses are upset with attendance. Don’t know why. If they did research — and they hadn’t just knee-jerked themselves out of town for a money grab — they would have known.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo ... story.html

RedAlice · Aug 23, 2017

ivotuk":3jq94pun said:
Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.”

— George Carlin

I’d say the novelty already has worn off if a novelty were there to be worn off....

Word is the Spanoses are upset with attendance. Don’t know why. If they did research — and they hadn’t just knee-jerked themselves out of town for a money grab — they would have known.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo ... story.html

Yep! Some Ivo love. :179417:

The hate here in San Diego is huge insane. Not sure why Spanos thought he had a ton of "LA" fans.

mikeak · Aug 23, 2017

I would take a SD written article with a grain of salt on how it will work out down in LA. Of course it is hugely slanted.

IF (and yes that is a BIG IF) they win then they can easily win over fans and get it going. The issue is Chargers has shown themselves a LOT more proficient in losing a game the last five minutes than holding on to a lead.....

XxXdragonXxX · Aug 23, 2017

The Chargers moving to LA was a monumentally poor decision, not only foe the Chargers, but for the Rams to. They're a bad franchise moving to a city that gets easily apathetic with bad football teams. Now the Chargers are going to take away fans from the Rams who might have stood a chance if it was only 1 team. Theyre playing in a tiny soccer stadium, and by the time the new stadium is built, Rivers will be pretty close to retiring, the Chargers will be cellar dwellers in what is right now a great division.

Theyll be in San Antonio in less than 8 terrible seasons.

RedAlice · Aug 24, 2017

XxXdragonXxX":1qpyn584 said:
The Chargers moving to LA was a monumentally poor decision, not only foe the Chargers, but for the Rams to. They're a bad franchise moving to a city that gets easily apathetic with bad football teams. Now the Chargers are going to take away fans from the Rams who might have stood a chance if it was only 1 team. Theyre playing in a tiny soccer stadium, and by the time the new stadium is built, Rivers will be pretty close to retiring, the Chargers will be cellar dwellers in what is right now a great division.

Theyll be in San Antonio in less than 8 terrible seasons.

:177692: :177692:

Um: there is NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH OR FIRE BENEATH IT, that the Chargers are taking fans away from the Rams.

Check current attendance. Check anything. That is some funny BS you got right there.

XxXdragonXxX · Aug 24, 2017

RedAlice":2vyob2wq said:
XxXdragonXxX":2vyob2wq said:

The Chargers moving to LA was a monumentally poor decision, not only foe the Chargers, but for the Rams to. They're a bad franchise moving to a city that gets easily apathetic with bad football teams. Now the Chargers are going to take away fans from the Rams who might have stood a chance if it was only 1 team. Theyre playing in a tiny soccer stadium, and by the time the new stadium is built, Rivers will be pretty close to retiring, the Chargers will be cellar dwellers in what is right now a great division.

Theyll be in San Antonio in less than 8 terrible seasons.

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:177692: :177692:

Um: there is NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH OR FIRE BENEATH IT, that the Chargers are taking fans away from the Rams.

Check current attendance. Check anything. That is some funny BS you got right there.

You think that the Rams will have 100% of the fans in a city with 2 teams? Even if its an 80-20 split, thats still bad for the Rams chances in fickle LA.

mikeak · Aug 24, 2017

RedAlice":1tsot799 said:
XxXdragonXxX":1tsot799 said:

The Chargers moving to LA was a monumentally poor decision, not only foe the Chargers, but for the Rams to. They're a bad franchise moving to a city that gets easily apathetic with bad football teams. Now the Chargers are going to take away fans from the Rams who might have stood a chance if it was only 1 team. Theyre playing in a tiny soccer stadium, and by the time the new stadium is built, Rivers will be pretty close to retiring, the Chargers will be cellar dwellers in what is right now a great division.

Theyll be in San Antonio in less than 8 terrible seasons.

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:177692: :177692:

Um: there is NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH OR FIRE BENEATH IT, that the Chargers are taking fans away from the Rams.

Check current attendance. Check anything. That is some funny BS you got right there.

They may not take FANS away from the Rams

The best performing team will most definitely take ticket sales away from the other team.

Visitors to LA that wants to see a game, locals that like football but don't care about either team YET will go with the winning team. Kids that are just excited to hear there is a football team in town will go with one of these and sometimes the opposite of their friends or parents just to spite them.

It is delusional to think that if the Chargers are performing on the field it will not take seats away from the Rams. Now it could be argued that if both do marginally well they may simply help each other by building interest in the town, but if one performs crappy and the other gone good - good luck

JSeahawks · Aug 24, 2017

mikeak":3il35wuq said:
RedAlice":3il35wuq said:

XxXdragonXxX":3il35wuq said:

The Chargers moving to LA was a monumentally poor decision, not only foe the Chargers, but for the Rams to. They're a bad franchise moving to a city that gets easily apathetic with bad football teams. Now the Chargers are going to take away fans from the Rams who might have stood a chance if it was only 1 team. Theyre playing in a tiny soccer stadium, and by the time the new stadium is built, Rivers will be pretty close to retiring, the Chargers will be cellar dwellers in what is right now a great division.

Theyll be in San Antonio in less than 8 terrible seasons.

Click to expand...

:177692: :177692:

Um: there is NO WAY IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH OR FIRE BENEATH IT, that the Chargers are taking fans away from the Rams.

Check current attendance. Check anything. That is some funny BS you got right there.

Click to expand...

They may not take FANS away from the Rams

The best performing team will most definitely take ticket sales away from the other team.

Visitors to LA that wants to see a game, locals that like football but don't care about either team YET will go with the winning team. Kids that are just excited to hear there is a football team in town will go with one of these and sometimes the opposite of their friends or parents just to spite them.

It is delusional to think that if the Chargers are performing on the field it will not take seats away from the Rams. Now it could be argued that if both do marginally well they may simply help each other by building interest in the town, but if one performs crappy and the other gone good - good luck

Only an idiot would pay to watch Jared Goff play football.

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