How many games will 0-9ers win through their first nine?

He just making himself look stupid for when we grave dig this thread 6 months from now

Marvin49":1ujqyvsx said:

hawknation2018":1ujqyvsx said:

Marvin49":1ujqyvsx said:

hawknation2018":1ujqyvsx said:

Foster is Aldon Smith 2.0. Tartt and Witherspoon were replacement level players on the one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

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M'Kay.

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Were you not one of the worst defenses in the NFL?

M'Kay.

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Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

Things change. Players develop. Not saying this D will be Seattle and there are guarantees but there is TALENT all over the 49ers D (Foster, Solomon Thomas, Buckner, Witherspoon, Tartt, Colbert). "Replacement level players". LOL. Yer funny.

I realize you are just trolling for a reaction, but man...you gotta try harder.

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Forgot about Thomas. Vast majority of even top pick DL players take a while to develop so he will continue to get better.

Not sure what we have to gain by denying good players on bad defenses their due. Aren't we hoping our own players develop and that's why it's okay that we lost so much defensive talent? Would niners fans be correct in saying Shaquill Griffin is a slightly above average player because our defense finished slightly above average (13th)? Can't have it both ways.

SF49r":3oj1yn3j said:

He just making himself look stupid for when we grave dig this thread 6 months from now

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This thread isn't going anywhere. It's going to sit here like "The Raven," taunting you after each and every loss.

When will the 0-9ers win the Super Bowl? Nevermore.

8)

And I could care less about your input on my team.. thanks

COULDN'T care less

Thank you... I "COULDN'T care less" about my grammar either

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SF49r":2qjivrr7 said:

And I could care less about your input on my team.. thanks

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And that’s why you come to a Seahawks forum? Cool story bruh keep telling it

Marvin49":2lbmo9me said:

Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

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Don't rank defenses by yardage. Ignorant metric.

RolandDeschain":3q5rwvlb said:

Marvin49":3q5rwvlb said:

Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

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Don't rank defenses by yardage. Ignorant metric.

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So if you use Pts its 2010: 25th, 2011: 7th, 2012: 1st.

...which doesn't in any way change point I was making. Players improve. Things change.

By his logic Kam and Earl suck because they had the 25th ranked D in 2010.

Clearly, that's not the case.

3 to 5 wins.

adeltaY":xmthsrgp said:

Marvin49":xmthsrgp said:

hawknation2018":xmthsrgp said:

Marvin49":xmthsrgp said:

M'Kay.

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Were you not one of the worst defenses in the NFL?

M'Kay.

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Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

Things change. Players develop. Not saying this D will be Seattle and there are guarantees but there is TALENT all over the 49ers D (Foster, Solomon Thomas, Buckner, Witherspoon, Tartt, Colbert). "Replacement level players". LOL. Yer funny.

I realize you are just trolling for a reaction, but man...you gotta try harder.

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Forgot about Thomas. Vast majority of even top pick DL players take a while to develop so he will continue to get better.

Not sure what we have to gain by denying good players on bad defenses their due. Aren't we hoping our own players develop and that's why it's okay that we lost so much defensive talent? Would niners fans be correct in saying Shaquill Griffin is a slightly above average player because our defense finished slightly above average (13th)? Can't have it both ways.

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The 49ers defense was that bad because the offense was horrid (specifically the qbs, guards and rt). Look at what the defense did after the offense started converting third downs (when Jimmy G began to start).

During the games Jimmy G started, the 49ers were 7th in yards allowed (were 28th without him), 9th in yards per play (18th), and 9th in points allowed (28th). Sounds like a top ten defense when the offense isn’t giving up 400 three and outs every game.


http://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco- ... everything


Of course, Jimmy G may take a step back, injuries may happen, and maybe the quality of offense wasn’t as good. But that defense certainly isn’t BAD. They just weren’t getting much help from the offense.

Marvin49":j5anqq13 said:

RolandDeschain":j5anqq13 said:

Marvin49":j5anqq13 said:

Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

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Don't rank defenses by yardage. Ignorant metric.

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So if you use Pts its 2010: 25th, 2011: 7th, 2012: 1st.

...which doesn't in any way change point I was making. Players improve. Things change.

By his logic Kam and Earl suck because they had the 25th ranked D in 2010.

Clearly, that's not the case.

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Things change.

Ipso facto, the Whiner defense will go from crap to great this year.

Amazing argument, Baghdad Bob.

hawknation2018":2a8z7m6y said:

Marvin49":2a8z7m6y said:

RolandDeschain":2a8z7m6y said:

Marvin49":2a8z7m6y said:

Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

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Don't rank defenses by yardage. Ignorant metric.

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So if you use Pts its 2010: 25th, 2011: 7th, 2012: 1st.

...which doesn't in any way change point I was making. Players improve. Things change.

By his logic Kam and Earl suck because they had the 25th ranked D in 2010.

Clearly, that's not the case.

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Things change.

Ipso facto, the Whiner defense will go from crap to great this year.

Amazing argument, Baghdad Bob.

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I didn't say that....and moreover you KNOW I didn't say that.

In fact I said there were no guarantees. I am not by any means saying the 49ers D will be that good or will be good at all. What I AM saying though is that your argument that all but 1 or 2 players on the Niner D suck because of the defensive ranking this year is bunk. Solomon Thomas was a Rookie. Rueben Foster missed half the season. Witherspoon didn't start till late in the year. Tartt missed several games to injury. Colbert didn't start until late in the year. Armstead missed most of the season.

If you are going to troll, please at least try to stay on topic.

The topic is a prediction thread.

Man up and give one.

hawknation2018":1hzo7z08 said:

The topic is a prediction thread.

Man up and give one.

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6-3.

Likely too many wins there but I'd rather be an optimist than a pessimist.

Marvin49":1l041f9s said:

hawknation2018":1l041f9s said:

The topic is a prediction thread.

Man up and give one.

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6-3.

Likely too many wins there but I'd rather be an optimist than a pessimist.

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Oh, we know.

Like when you picked the 49ers to win 10 games in 2015. :lol:

RolandDeschain":198d5hjf said:

Marvin49":198d5hjf said:

Seahawks D 2010 ( Rookie Years for Kam and Earl): 27th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2011 (Rookie year for Sherman): 9th Ranked Defense
Seahawks D 2012: 4th Ranked Defense.

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Don't rank defenses by yardage. Ignorant metric.

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True dat.

Maulbert":1keyv4sb said:

Marvin49":1keyv4sb said:

hawknation2018":1keyv4sb said:

The topic is a prediction thread.

Man up and give one.

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6-3.

Likely too many wins there but I'd rather be an optimist than a pessimist.

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Oh, we know.

Like when you picked the 49ers to win 10 games in 2015. :lol:

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I don't remember that prediction but I won't argue it.

I'd be curious tho if that was before or after Patrick Willis, Justin Smith, Anthony Davis and Chris Borland retired, Aldon got in trouble again, and they lost Crabtree, Gore, and Iupati to Free Agency. That was a rough year.

They went 5-11 but curious what their record would have been with all those guys on the roster.

...oh yeah, and they lost that Harbaugh guy too.