New roughing the passer rule worse than helmet rule?

Uncle Si":37bqovv5 said:

PackerNation":37bqovv5 said:

Uncle Si":37bqovv5 said:

PackerNation":37bqovv5 said:

No, you don't get it. Your childish insults and hammering of the Packers because you don't like them is blinding you to the fact that this can be a very big problem in the NFL when it comes to these types of calls. It may have cost Green Bay a critical divisional game against the Vikings but it could very well be another team next week. Or a critical call in the playoffs that sends a team home for such a foolishly called penalty.

It's wrecking football. There is little to no chance that Clay Matthews can ease up after he blows through the lineman to make a hit on the QB and not keep from landing on him. It's a lousy rule and while QB's should be afforded some protection, they cannot be expected to ever take some hits.

If you knew anything about football, you would also know that they are throwing flags on players exactly how they are taught to tackle and wrap up ball carriers.

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Referee Craig Wrolstad on Matthews penalty in pool report: "So, that's not a new rule. I had judged that the defender landed on the quarterback when he was tackling him, with most or all of his body weight, and that's not allowed. If you do that, it's roughing the passer."


Clay Matthews doesn't know how to tackle. If he knew anything about tackling he wouldn't have got the flag. You clearly don't understand the rule as well.

Also, why would a change in tackling to protect the NFL's best asset be "ruining" the game. As it is, the age range of those that watch the game is getting younger. They are not old men with antiquated beliefs about sport. Younger fans want their stars on the field, not crippled, concussed or worse.

So... the fantasy football crowd will care less in the long run about tackling rules if their favorite players aren't being carted off the field.

It's unnerving people can't see that. The inherent dangers of playing football are difficult enough. Making changes to the game to try and mitigate these issues is the only way this game survives.

It's understandable you can't grasp that. Packers fans still want it to be the 1960s

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I read it and disagree with it as do many many others. It's subjective and never should have been called. Rules like this will ruin the NFL. I get trying to protect the QB but the hit Clay laid on the QB in both the Minnesota game and against the Redskins was legal. It should not have been flagged.

I expected the NFL to stand behind the refs calls, they have no choice. But these "subjective" calls have to be eliminated. It turns games on their heels. The NFL has told these guys to not land on the QB, must roll off. That's precisely what Clay Matthews did. When a player does exactly as instructed and gets a flag anyway, something is terribly wrong.

BTW, this isn't the smack shack, so you want to tell the crayon eating little Seahawk minions to keep the insults in the shack? You want good discussion, how can you expect to have such things with some of the comments here?

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There was no insult. Just a clearly defined statement. You do not understand the rules. You do not understand the NFL sack rules or the rules here on .Net. If you wish to lodge a concern then report a post. Do not discuss moderation.

Much like Clay, a failure to adjust will cost you a spot on the team.

You can disagree. Some do. That guy did not. He's a professional. I saw it and agreed with the call as well. Clay landed directly on top of him, all of his body weight, and then tried to roll off. That's not the rule.

It is subjective. It is confusing. And it's certainly going to take players time to adjust. But it will not ruin the game. In the last 10 years the league has been dominated by off field violence, horrible on field injuries, movies and widespread coverage of the damage the sport does to its players, suicides and crippled vets stating they wish they never played the game and need constant medical attention. I think the precious game you remember needs to change or it will fade away.

The crayon-eating minions is not a fresh take for you. I would hope for better than simple repetition.

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Uncle Si":zhw72b5n said:

He didnt put the full force of his body on the qb. I mean thats what im seeing. And im sure they will miss some.

Its a tough rule but its clear where the NFL is headed. They dont want injured QBs. Considering what happened to.yours ladt year and how it ruined your season im surprised you dont agree.

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PackerNation":wzq1k3wa said:

Uncle Si":wzq1k3wa said:

He didnt put the full force of his body on the qb. I mean thats what im seeing. And im sure they will miss some.

Its a tough rule but its clear where the NFL is headed. They dont want injured QBs. Considering what happened to.yours ladt year and how it ruined your season im surprised you dont agree.

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Go look at it again. He spun Rodgers around and then landed with his full weight on Rodgers. This should have been a penalty. Subjective? Of course. The NFL needs less subjective rules and more concrete calls.

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