Kyler Murray crushed the Cardinals' offseason, teammates say

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  • Wait until they can hit.
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  • Of course his teammates would say that...no different than Wilson's teammates saying that they actually like his reality show...when it starts
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  • There is more to the article than what a subject title is necessarily limited to. We are in the eye of a 6 week dead spot with regards to news coverage. The article provides some useful content in the form of background and first impressions about a new offense taking shape in Arizona. It's a good time to catch up on the rest of the division and league. The alternative is silence which is death to a forum.

    "First off, he's faster and quicker than I thought when we got on the field,” running back David Johnson said. "I think a lot of people underestimate how great he can throw. He throws a dart. Accurate dart.


    I thought the addition of JR Sweezy was a great move by the Cardinals. Nice complement for 1st year QB Kyler Murray.
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  • I think he is super talented but will be injury prone throughout his career imo.
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  • He weighs 20lbs less than Russel Wilson on paper... but more like 35 in real life.

    He runs a little faster, yea, but he's scrawnier than RG3 and might end up with an even shorter career than Robert if he decides he's going to be a running QB.

    Has a bit more zip on the ball -- but none of the touch on his deep passes -- they don't have that beautiful arc to them that allows receivers to adjust and keeps the ball out of a DB's hands. It's very pretty, but it's a line drive... reminds me of the balls Warren Moon used to throw and to a lesser extent, Brett Farve. Lovely to watch, but a lot of picks downfield because the DB's can go get them since they don't drop over the top. The only thing that used to save Farve is his cannon arm - and this guy doesn't have that velocity.

    Also.. those hands look a little small -- I see fumbles in weather.
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  • bevellisthedevil wrote:I think he is super talented but will be injury prone throughout his career imo.



    Gotta catch him to hurt him . He probably will take the least sacks in the division. IMO
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  • That kid has got super star written all over him .
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  • He hasn't played a down in the NFL, easy kid :lol:
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  • xray wrote:That kid has got super star written all over him .



    We will see. I wouldn’t put money on it.
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  • xray wrote:That kid has got super star written all over him .


    Everybody said the same thing about Johnny Football.
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  • GeekHawk wrote:
    xray wrote:That kid has got super star written all over him .


    Everybody said the same thing about Johnny Football.

    More said he was gonna bust.
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  • Sadly, Kyler Murray will be the closest thing there could ever be to a Russell Wilson 2.0.
    Happily for AZ fans.

    He's not going to bust, far from it, and he will mostly stay healthy, and he has a head coach and an offense that is built around him; Russell's rookie records are in considerable danger. Murray has the smarts and the leadership qualities, just like Wilson. He has Wilson's quickness and speed, plus a half-gear extra. He has the ability to elevate the play of his teammates. It's no wonder the Cards were willing to part company with Josh Rosen.

    I have to admit my bias coming in was to think that Murray would be like a smaller, lighter, more fragile Robert Griffin III. Then I went to do some research, and concluded I was very wrong in that comparison. Russell Wilson is the best comp for Murray. Even down to the baseball background.

    I only watched one game of Murray in college, whatever the bowl game was he was in, and he was freakin electric. But I thought he'd get crushed in the NFL. First the defenses gotta catch him. Few or none can.

    Understand, I'm not pleased to write this, to come to these conclusions. It's just that it's where all the available Kyler Murray data points lead. We're probably looking at a split with the Cardinals this season, depending on how much our defense improves from last year.
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  • olyfan63 wrote:
    I only watched one game of Murray in college, whatever the bowl game was he was in, and he was freakin electric. But I thought he'd get crushed in the NFL. First the defenses gotta catch him. Few or none can.



    I wasn't actually impressed with the bowl game. Once he settled down, he was pretty good but he was pretty deer in headlights and hearing footsteps at the beginning.
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  • HawkGA wrote:I wasn't actually impressed with the bowl game. Once he settled down, he was pretty good but he was pretty deer in headlights and hearing footsteps at the beginning.


    Not going to make an argument for his pure quarterbacking on that one.
    I was impressed with his elite quickness, making other quick and fast guys look slow and sluggish, and making things happen in the 2nd half. I didn't really see any of his first half, did gather it wasn't that great.

    In the NFL he just needs to be smarter than Robert Griffin III and I think he's got that one nailed.
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  • Hasn't played a single down in the NFL, only played a handful of games in college and he's somehow already an All-Pro :roll:
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  • olyfan63 wrote:
    HawkGA wrote:I wasn't actually impressed with the bowl game. Once he settled down, he was pretty good but he was pretty deer in headlights and hearing footsteps at the beginning.


    Not going to make an argument for his pure quarterbacking on that one.
    I was impressed with his elite quickness, making other quick and fast guys look slow and sluggish, and making things happen in the 2nd half. I didn't really see any of his first half, did gather it wasn't that great.

    In the NFL he just needs to be smarter than Robert Griffin III and I think he's got that one nailed.


    It was definitely a tale of two halves. I think it's easy to say he'll settle down and be more like the second half as he grows in the NFL but it's also fair to say that facing NFL defenses will be even tougher than facing Alabama's defense (though maybe not by much).
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  • olyfan63 wrote:Sadly, Kyler Murray will be the closest thing there could ever be to a Russell Wilson 2.0.
    Happily for AZ fans.

    He's not going to bust, far from it, and he will mostly stay healthy, and he has a head coach and an offense that is built around him; Russell's rookie records are in considerable danger. Murray has the smarts and the leadership qualities, just like Wilson. He has Wilson's quickness and speed, plus a half-gear extra. He has the ability to elevate the play of his teammates. It's no wonder the Cards were willing to part company with Josh Rosen.

    I have to admit my bias coming in was to think that Murray would be like a smaller, lighter, more fragile Robert Griffin III. Then I went to do some research, and concluded I was very wrong in that comparison. Russell Wilson is the best comp for Murray. Even down to the baseball background.

    I only watched one game of Murray in college, whatever the bowl game was he was in, and he was freakin electric. But I thought he'd get crushed in the NFL. First the defenses gotta catch him. Few or none can.

    Understand, I'm not pleased to write this, to come to these conclusions. It's just that it's where all the available Kyler Murray data points lead. We're probably looking at a split with the Cardinals this season, depending on how much our defense improves from last year.



    Few or none can catch him?
    Few or none COLLEGE players could catch him.
    I watched every game he played in besides blacked out games (my fiance is from Oklahoma.
    College defenses suck.
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  • GeekHawk wrote:
    xray wrote:That kid has got super star written all over him .


    Everybody said the same thing about Johnny Football.


    They did?

    I remember everyone bagging on the Browns for being the Browns and taking him late in the 1st round.
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  • Cardinals seem pleased by him. But the rest of the league it is up in the air. That is just a practice.
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  • Passepartout wrote:Cardinals seem pleased by him. But the rest of the league it is up in the air. That is just a practice.


    They are always pleased at first, then they have to go get a Carson Palmer, or Kurt Warner.

    They were pleased with Matt Leinart also and Josh Rosen.
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  • Kyler is crushing his off season just like our DK crushing his.


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  • Except the last time they had a hand picked QB that was even close to good in the draft was Jake Plummer who had an attitude and wanted money so they traded him to KC.
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  • chris98251 wrote:Except the last time they had a hand picked QB that was even close to good in the draft was Jake Plummer who had an attitude and wanted money so they traded him to KC.


    Jake Plummer was was never traded to KC. He signed with the Broncos as a free agent in '03. They benched him in '06 for Jay Cutler, then traded to Tampa in '07, where he retired without playing a down.
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  • chris98251 wrote:
    Passepartout wrote:Cardinals seem pleased by him. But the rest of the league it is up in the air. That is just a practice.


    They are always pleased at first, then they have to go get a Carson Palmer, or Kurt Warner.

    They were pleased with Matt Leinart also and Josh Rosen.


    I’m pretty sure every fanbase is pleased every time they draft for a potential franchise QB.
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  • I don't think the Eagles were when they drafted McNabb.
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  • HawkGA wrote:I don't think the Eagles were when they drafted McNabb.


    And they wanted Ricky Williams. I'd say Philly fans were pretty stupid in that case.
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  • There have def. been times when a fan base is not stoked about the choice at QB. Mcnabb is a great example.
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  • Maulbert wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:Except the last time they had a hand picked QB that was even close to good in the draft was Jake Plummer who had an attitude and wanted money so they traded him to KC.


    Jake Plummer was was never traded to KC. He signed with the Broncos as a free agent in '03. They benched him in '06 for Jay Cutler, then traded to Tampa in '07, where he retired without playing a down.


    Sorry your right, it was the Broncos but it was still about the Money in Arizona, Bidwells were Cheap asses for a long time till they got their Stadium.
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