Niners' Jarryd Hayne retires to pursue Olympic dream

The San Francisco 49ers announced Sunday running back Jarryd Hayne has retired from the NFL to and will pursue playing rugby in the Olympics.

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That's too bad. Wonder what could have been if he didn't choose that dumpster fire in Santa Clara.

Mistashoesta":3f5z7ffn said:

The San Francisco 49ers announced Sunday running back Jarryd Hayne has retired from the NFL to and will pursue playing rugby in the Olympics.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... mpic-dream

That's too bad. Wonder what could have been if he didn't choose that dumpster fire in Santa Clara.

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What a dumpster fire. I sure the spin will be delicious as always however.

It's actually impossible for him to even be eligible, due to doping guidelines. He simply made a bad decision signing with 49ers, and like everyone else, is retiring.

Sports Hernia":3302xvx3 said:

Mistashoesta":3302xvx3 said:

The San Francisco 49ers announced Sunday running back Jarryd Hayne has retired from the NFL to and will pursue playing rugby in the Olympics.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... mpic-dream

That's too bad. Wonder what could have been if he didn't choose that dumpster fire in Santa Clara.

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What a dumpster fire. I sure the spin will be delicious as always however.

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"They gave him a shot"
"GM looks everywhere for talent"
"He had the ability he must not of had the drive, so it's better if he isn't here"

Anything that takes away from the fact its another in the long list of disappointments in Santa Clara over the last 4 years.

Good player in the open field but always seemed a bit slow footed in traffic and ran WAY too high. I thought he might have a future returning kicks, but never really liked him as a RB. Lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS...as you might expect. Really had a knack tho for making the first guy miss.

Was looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year under his belt, but was way more interested in Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, and Kelvin Taylor as RBs.

In all honestly (and I know the spin comments are coming) he was way more of a hype player than a legit player.

Big bonus tho....many of the aussie fans who professed that Haynes preseason performance was a much better indicator than a "lower form of competition...College Football" will disappear overnight. Yay. SO many of them argued that his preseason PROVED he was a future star.

...and Pehawk, I read that too, but I guess Fiji said he could compete afterall...so not sure who to believe there.

Marvin49":1c4azj12 said:

Good player in the open field but always seemed a bit slow footed in traffic and ran WAY too high. I thought he might have a future returning kicks, but never really liked him as a RB. Lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS...as you might expect. Really had a knack tho for making the first guy miss.

Was looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year under his belt, but was way more interested in Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, and Kelvin Taylor as RBs.

In all honestly (and I know the spin comments are coming) he was way more of a hype player than a legit player.

Big bonus tho....many of the aussie fans who professed that Haynes preseason performance was a much better indicator than a "lower form of competition...College Football" will disappear overnight. Yay. SO many of them argued that his preseason PROVED he was a future star.

...and Pehawk, I read that too, but I guess Fiji said he could compete afterall...so not sure who to believe there.

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It's too bad we'll never see JJ Watt go to Australia to play Rugby. I'm guessing he wouldn't wash out after one year. Just a hunch.

Not like he was ever going to be a successful nfl player anyway.

JSeahawks":2mr777i1 said:

Not like he was ever going to be a successful nfl player anyway.

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Especially in Frisco or Santa Clara.

Marvin49":2j5kmatp said:

Good player in the open field but always seemed a bit slow footed in traffic and ran WAY too high. I thought he might have a future returning kicks, but never really liked him as a RB. Lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS...as you might expect. Really had a knack tho for making the first guy miss.

Was looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year under his belt, but was way more interested in Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, and Kelvin Taylor as RBs.

In all honestly (and I know the spin comments are coming) he was way more of a hype player than a legit player.

Big bonus tho....many of the aussie fans who professed that Haynes preseason performance was a much better indicator than a "lower form of competition...College Football" will disappear overnight. Yay. SO many of them argued that his preseason PROVED he was a future star.

...and Pehawk, I read that too, but I guess Fiji said he could compete afterall...so not sure who to believe there.

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There are so many 49er posters like you who've said that he "lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS"...yet everyone knows that your offensive line was a dumpster fire. When it came to RB's like Davis who had a 2 yd/carry average and showed absolutely nothing at all in either preseason or regular season you guys are happy to say that "the sample size of 35 carries was too small to evaluate him", and happy to use the offensive line excuse for him, and so you're "more interested" in seeing how he can do with an improved offensive line going forward.

But none of you were "more interested" to see how "the foreigner" who had a better season average than the 4th round pick might do, or were "more interested" to give him a larger sample size than the 18 carries he had because I think you were more interested in having a pissing contest with the Aussies that came onto your board and proving to your Aussie friends that foreigners can't compete in an American sport.

Kelvin Taylor at 20lbs lighter and slower with a 4 yd/carry average in college last year isn't going to do shit for your team. All of you guys should have given Hayne a much better shake than you did.

kearly":2gg1k0dp said:

It's too bad we'll never see JJ Watt go to Australia to play Rugby. I'm guessing he wouldn't wash out after one year. Just a hunch.

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JJ Watt would have to train himself to run non-stop for 80 minutes a game before even considering playing the game. Dude would lose between 50 to 100lbs in a year. Most offensive and defensive linemen would find it incredibly difficult to transition because the endurance aspect of the game weighs very heavy sometimes at the expense of speed and power.

That said if he could do it he might be an unbelievable 2nd row forward in rugby assuming he had some hand skills. That would be the best position for him to transition to because it wouldn't require much in the way of offensive skill and his height and body composition makes him a good fit for that position. But he would have to learn to love to run 8 kms/game. 2nd row is not a glamorous position though and he probably wouldn't have the same impact in that sport as his strengths cater more to the NFL game. That power and explosiveness disappears in most human beings after you've been running for 10 minutes or more - especially with the big guys.

Its not fair to compare the transition a guy like JJ Watt to rugby would need to make versus a guy like Hayne to NFL. Hayne attempted to make a skill position whereas Watt could only attempt to make a transition to a workhouse/grunt/non-skill position that caters more to his body size and physical brute force.

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Marvin49":2kowr3v7 said:

Good player in the open field but always seemed a bit slow footed in traffic and ran WAY too high. I thought he might have a future returning kicks, but never really liked him as a RB. Lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS...as you might expect. Really had a knack tho for making the first guy miss.

Was looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year under his belt, but was way more interested in Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, and Kelvin Taylor as RBs.

In all honestly (and I know the spin comments are coming) he was way more of a hype player than a legit player.

Big bonus tho....many of the aussie fans who professed that Haynes preseason performance was a much better indicator than a "lower form of competition...College Football" will disappear overnight. Yay. SO many of them argued that his preseason PROVED he was a future star.

...and Pehawk, I read that too, but I guess Fiji said he could compete afterall...so not sure who to believe there.

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There are so many 49er posters like you who've said that he "lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS"...yet everyone knows that your offensive line was a dumpster fire. When it came to RB's like Davis who had a 2 yd/carry average and showed absolutely nothing at all in either preseason or regular season you guys are happy to say that "the sample size of 35 carries was too small to evaluate him", and happy to use the offensive line excuse for him, and so you're "more interested" in seeing how he can do with an improved offensive line going forward.

But none of you were "more interested" to see how "the foreigner" who had a better season average than the 4th round pick might do, or were "more interested" to give him a larger sample size than the 18 carries he had because I think you were more interested in having a pissing contest with the Aussies that came onto your board and proving to your Aussie friends that foreigners can't compete in an American sport.

Kelvin Taylor at 20lbs lighter and slower with a 4 yd/carry average in college last year isn't going to do shit for your team. All of you guys should have given Hayne a much better shake than you did.

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Wow.

You can quote the numbers all you want but watching the games will tell you quite a bit more. Dress it up however you want, but most of Haynes yards as a RB came on runs with HUGE holes to run through. Once he got in the clear tho is when he showed what he IS good at...open field running.

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Hayne fans saw those runs and thought "OMG, he's going to dominate the NFL too!!" and couldn't understand that so much of what you saw was NOT hayne but a very well blocked play. Too often tho when he got the ball he just ran into the line. Very little lateral movement and just kinda shuffled into the line.

Meanwhile...poor Mike Davis. LOL.



Davis didn't have a good year either. Worse than Haynes statistically, but he LOOKS the part. I don't mean walking off the bus...I mean he's far quicker and runs low to the ground. In BOTH players cases they had too few carries to say anything definitive about how they'd play moving forward, but I was FAR more interested in Mike Davis as a runner than Jarryd Hayne. I got to see Davis play in college and has a much larger pool of carries to form an opinion from even if they were in college. I said that when he was on the team as well and had many Aussies pretty annoyed at me for saying it.

MANY of those aussie fans maintained that Preseason NFL football was a much better indicator of NFL success than College football. Sorry...I just think thats total BS. Starters don't play, no gameplanning...just not the same thing IMO.

Where I really had some hopes for Hayne were as a return specialist. He ALWAYS seemed to make the first guy miss, had a killer stiff arm and was much bigger than your typical return man. Thats where I was hoping he could make his stanp this year.

BTW..."the foreigner"? Get that crap outta here. I couldn't care less where a guy is from if he can play. My criticism of Hayne is based on his play and his play alone. That tho is a PRIME example of why I'm happy to see alot of those aussie fans go. Their entire fandom was about ONE player, and a marginal NFL player at that. They HATED any player that played Jarryds position or the ST coach who "had it out for Jarryd".

kearly":1t7qk2u3 said:

It's too bad we'll never see JJ Watt go to Australia to play Rugby. I'm guessing he wouldn't wash out after one year. Just a hunch.

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Sorry Kip, but you are way wide of the mark - none of the big guys could make the transition. There are just too many game-specific skills like scrummaging, rucking, mauling, and lineouts that it would likely take years, no matter how good an athlete you were. Your best chance of converting someone to rugby would be to take someone with sub-4.5 speed and make them a wing. Harvin would have been great on the wing, if he could have learned to throw nothing but laterals.

Wing is about the only position you could play someone - centres have too much passing to do and fullbacks have to kick from hand.

cdallan":9vubt5ok said:

Your best chance of converting someone to rugby would be to take someone with sub-4.5 speed and make them a wing. Harvin would have been great on the wing, if he could have learned to throw nothing but laterals.

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You really think glass man would be tough enough to play rugby and not be broken in half?

Marvin49":1n3hawou said:

MANY of those aussie fans maintained that Preseason NFL football was a much better indicator of NFL success than College football. Sorry...I just think thats total BS. Starters don't play, no gameplanning...just not the same thing IMO.

Where I really had some hopes for Hayne were as a return specialist. He ALWAYS seemed to make the first guy miss, had a killer stiff arm and was much bigger than your typical return man. Thats where I was hoping he could make his stanp this year.

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Yeah, for an NFL player Hayne was good at what you'd expect given his background: He had soft hands and had a real talent for making people miss in space.

He also really struggled in all the areas you'd expect, which were all the areas he didn't have experience in: he ran really upright, couldn't hit the hole hard, couldn't square up, and was a liabilty in pass pro.

As a punt returner he was also good at what you'd expect and bad at what you'd expect: he could consistently make a guy miss if he could catch cleanly and return the ball, but he din't have any experience with fielding kicks when 60% of the time you've got a a guy covered in pads who has been running at top speed for 40 yards and is 3-5 yards away at your catch point just begging to knock you the heck out. As the 9ers new ST coach said a couple days ago, everyone looks good while fielding punts against air.

Any claims of him being a hidden gem or misused really went out the window when he got cut and cleared waivers, IMO.

Agreed about the Aussie fans too. I'm not at all sad to see them go. As far as 9ers fans go at the last the #Alexcuses crowd have some passing knowledge of the game and how it's played.

Maulbert":syigcciv said:

Marvin49":syigcciv said:

Good player in the open field but always seemed a bit slow footed in traffic and ran WAY too high. I thought he might have a future returning kicks, but never really liked him as a RB. Lacked all the instincts of a RB at the LOS...as you might expect. Really had a knack tho for making the first guy miss.

Was looking forward to seeing what he could do with a year under his belt, but was way more interested in Carlos Hyde, Mike Davis, and Kelvin Taylor as RBs.

In all honestly (and I know the spin comments are coming) he was way more of a hype player than a legit player.

Big bonus tho....many of the aussie fans who professed that Haynes preseason performance was a much better indicator than a "lower form of competition...College Football" will disappear overnight. Yay. SO many of them argued that his preseason PROVED he was a future star.

...and Pehawk, I read that too, but I guess Fiji said he could compete afterall...so not sure who to believe there.

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Genuine lol. Way to fill the void. :thirishdrinkers:

cdallan":21s3aptn said:

kearly":21s3aptn said:

It's too bad we'll never see JJ Watt go to Australia to play Rugby. I'm guessing he wouldn't wash out after one year. Just a hunch.

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Sorry Kip, but you are way wide of the mark - none of the big guys could make the transition. There are just too many game-specific skills like scrummaging, rucking, mauling, and lineouts that it would likely take years, no matter how good an athlete you were. Your best chance of converting someone to rugby would be to take someone with sub-4.5 speed and make them a wing. Harvin would have been great on the wing, if he could have learned to throw nothing but laterals.

Wing is about the only position you could play someone - centres have too much passing to do and fullbacks have to kick from hand.

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I don't know, I always felt like Marshawn would have made a great ball-carrying number 8 ala Billy Vunipola. JJ Watt might have made a hard hitting lock like Courtney Lawes, but like Lawes, physicality would be one of the only things going for him.

Hayne's rugby league though, I'd imagine the transition would be a little easier than union.