Arizona Cardinals Have It All Wrapped Up!

dogorama · Jun 15, 2016

Just out of curiosity I went to their forum and their confidence in the superiority of their team surprised me. Granted, they have a pretty good team but they quote articles saying they have the best personnel, a better draft, more depth, etc. etc. Personally I think they are in for a big surprise this year but I didn't feel any need to post. http://forums.azcardinals.com/forumdisp ... s-Football

HansGruber · Jun 15, 2016

Two words:

Carson Palmer.

Not one of those people seriously believe they are better at quarterback. And no matter what they say out loud, every one of them will be chewing their fingernails every time Old Man Palmer steps up to the center. That will continue to hamper any shot at a championship. I feel bad for them, always getting close but never getting that Lombardi. No need to go rub it in.

Passepartout · Jun 15, 2016

But Carson Palmer just did not show that unfortunately but not all is his fault in the NFC Title Game last January against Carolina!

dogorama · Jun 15, 2016

Arizona's prime offensive players are getting old. Will that show up this year? Who knows? but it is coming soon.

http://socalledfantasyexperts.com/aging ... -position/

Tical21 · Jun 15, 2016

Palmer was brilliant during the regular season. How he plays in the playoffs isn't nearly as important to us right now as how he plays in the regular season. We really want to win the division. We know we play them twice. Those are the two most important games on our schedule. That is how we take back the division. They're not going away this year.

Hawks46 · Jun 16, 2016

Tical21":1x5rybdc said:
Palmer was brilliant during the regular season. How he plays in the playoffs isn't nearly as important to us right now as how he plays in the regular season. We really want to win the division. We know we play them twice. Those are the two most important games on our schedule. That is how we take back the division. They're not going away this year.

Good post. I've said it last year as well, but hoping another team's QB gets hurt, or to say it more correctly, relying on their QB to be injury prone isn't exactly a ringing endorsement in the confidence in your own team. Palmer was one of the best QB's in the league last year, and he was durable enough.

That said, he's never shown he can elevate his game in the post season. I think it is relevant to us if we meet them in the divisional round or the NFCCG.

HansGruber · Jun 16, 2016

Hawks46":2wq0qy5b said:
Tical21":2wq0qy5b said:

Palmer was brilliant during the regular season. How he plays in the playoffs isn't nearly as important to us right now as how he plays in the regular season. We really want to win the division. We know we play them twice. Those are the two most important games on our schedule. That is how we take back the division. They're not going away this year.

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Good post. I've said it last year as well, but hoping another team's QB gets hurt, or to say it more correctly, relying on their QB to be injury prone isn't exactly a ringing endorsement in the confidence in your own team. Palmer was one of the best QB's in the league last year, and he was durable enough.

That said, he's never shown he can elevate his game in the post season. I think it is relevant to us if we meet them in the divisional round or the NFCCG.

I've never hoped or relied on Palmer getting injured. But he's only had one full healthy season in like the last decade. There is extremely little chance he stays healthy next season. That's a fact, and it's fully relevant when you are talking about one team being better than another.

Further, we completely spanked the Cardinals at home last season with Palmer healthy. And about half of our team injured, including okung, lynch, Graham, and others. It's silly to say they are better across the board when they got spanked the way they did against our backups.

endzorn · Jun 16, 2016

Every fan base is wildly overconfident in June...Seattle being no exception.

gowazzu02 · Jun 16, 2016

Hey they have a good squad. and knocked us down a peg last year. They should be confident.

But im confident that we will win the division and knock them down this year.

Lords of Scythia · Jun 16, 2016

Tical21":2hbwcpgg said:
Palmer was brilliant during the regular season. How he plays in the playoffs isn't nearly as important to us right now as how he plays in the regular season. We really want to win the division. We know we play them twice. Those are the two most important games on our schedule. That is how we take back the division. They're not going away this year.

The division is secondary. What really matters is the #1 seed in the NFC.

GO HAWKS!

Popeyejones · Jun 16, 2016

dogorama":84jebzzr said:
Just out of curiosity I went to their forum and their confidence in the superiority of their team surprised me.

They were never even remotely threatened for the division title last year, and one could legitimatelly make the argument that if they weren't forced to play 10 games in 2014 starting their 2nd and 3rd string QBs they would have easily walked away with the division two years ago too (they started 9-1 and then dropped 5 of their last 7 because they were stuck with a banged up Drew friggin Stanton and a since unemployed Ryan Lindley).

It might not go their way this year, but they have every right to be confident.

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b8rtm8nn · Jun 16, 2016

Bah!...I hate new fans that haven't suffered enough to realize how fortunate we are to be considered a playoff team before the season.

We have our concerns on defense - Honey Badger coming off ACL tear, no clear CB2, turnover at safety (although I think that's a good thing), and the DC is in his second year - not certain if he will improve or regress. It's easy to clamor that drafting someone or expecting 'that guy' to really take off in year 2 or 3 somehow leads to a SuperBowl when you haven't watched seasons fall apart in the past (just look at the start of Seattle's season last year with Cary Williams).

Realistically, I think we are about a 10 win team right now and can likely get a wild card spot, at a minimum. The Seahawks are better, IMO, both in roster and consistency so far. I don't see LA or SF having a great season; and I don't see any other division in the NFC that will have a strong #2 to throw the #5 playoff seed into a tight competition. Anything can change, of course, but at least Cards fans have a reason for optimism to make the playoffs...just not quite so much delusion.

Maulbert · Jun 16, 2016

Don't forget, Arians has never beaten Pete in UoP Stadium!

dogorama · Jun 17, 2016

b8rtm8nn":3s9xaxj7 said:
Bah!...I hate new fans that haven't suffered enough to realize how fortunate we are to be considered a playoff team before the season.

We have our concerns on defense - Honey Badger coming off ACL tear, no clear CB2, turnover at safety (although I think that's a good thing), and the DC is in his second year - not certain if he will improve or regress. It's easy to clamor that drafting someone or expecting 'that guy' to really take off in year 2 or 3 somehow leads to a SuperBowl when you haven't watched seasons fall apart in the past (just look at the start of Seattle's season last year with Cary Williams).

Realistically, I think we are about a 10 win team right now and can likely get a wild card spot, at a minimum. The Seahawks are better, IMO, both in roster and consistency so far. I don't see LA or SF having a great season; and I don't see any other division in the NFC that will have a strong #2 to throw the #5 playoff seed into a tight competition. Anything can change, of course, but at least Cards fans have a reason for optimism to make the playoffs...just not quite so much delusion.

Good post, don't get me wrong I think that the Cards are a very good, I was just surprised at the level of overconfidence. Hoping for an injury-free season for everyone.

Cyrus12 · Jun 17, 2016

endzorn":7ldkyeen said:
Every fan base is wildly overconfident in June...Seattle being no exception.

this^ most ppl here are calling for the hawks to go 19-0.

hawksfansinceday1 · Jun 17, 2016

b8rtm8nn":37zvku14 said:
Bah!...I hate new fans that haven't suffered enough to realize how fortunate we are to be considered a playoff team before the season.

We have our concerns on defense - Honey Badger coming off ACL tear, no clear CB2, turnover at safety (although I think that's a good thing), and the DC is in his second year - not certain if he will improve or regress. It's easy to clamor that drafting someone or expecting 'that guy' to really take off in year 2 or 3 somehow leads to a SuperBowl when you haven't watched seasons fall apart in the past (just look at the start of Seattle's season last year with Cary Williams).

Realistically, I think we are about a 10 win team right now and can likely get a wild card spot, at a minimum. The Seahawks are better, IMO, both in roster and consistency so far. I don't see LA or SF having a great season; and I don't see any other division in the NFC that will have a strong #2 to throw the #5 playoff seed into a tight competition. Anything can change, of course, but at least Cards fans have a reason for optimism to make the playoffs...just not quite so much delusion.

Assuming QB health, I think one game separates the teams at season's end. Hopefully the Hawks have the one more victory.

Crizilla · Jun 17, 2016

last year was supposed to be their year. Got demolished in NFC title game. I don't see Palmer staying healthy AND playing at that level again for ALL 16 games. I think they'll still compete for a playoff spot though. Both Carolina and ARZ will take a step back this year. Good news for the hawks.

HawkGA · Jun 17, 2016

Cyrus12":3pmnlwjp said:
endzorn":3pmnlwjp said:

Every fan base is wildly overconfident in June...Seattle being no exception.

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this^ most ppl here are calling for the hawks to go 19-0.

Not sure why you think that is overconfidence??????

Ramfan128 · Jun 17, 2016

b8rtm8nn":kx683zji said:
Bah!...I hate new fans that haven't suffered enough to realize how fortunate we are to be considered a playoff team before the season.

We have our concerns on defense - Honey Badger coming off ACL tear, no clear CB2, turnover at safety (although I think that's a good thing), and the DC is in his second year - not certain if he will improve or regress. It's easy to clamor that drafting someone or expecting 'that guy' to really take off in year 2 or 3 somehow leads to a SuperBowl when you haven't watched seasons fall apart in the past (just look at the start of Seattle's season last year with Cary Williams).

Realistically, I think we are about a 10 win team right now and can likely get a wild card spot, at a minimum. The Seahawks are better, IMO, both in roster and consistency so far. I don't see LA or SF having a great season; and I don't see any other division in the NFC that will have a strong #2 to throw the #5 playoff seed into a tight competition. Anything can change, of course, but at least Cards fans have a reason for optimism to make the playoffs...just not quite so much delusion.

I don't see my Rams really competing this year, but the major difference between Seattle/Arizona and us is QB play. If Goff has a good rookie year, we will surprise people.

Largent80 · Jun 17, 2016

The only thing AZ has wrapped up is a Taco Bell burrito at this point.

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