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Alabama Crimson Tide vs Cleveland Browns
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:31 pm

  • Browns by 50 and would be ugly, the dogs would need to be called off.
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  • Yeah i'll take the Browns and the points.
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  • Agreed with above. Many underestimate the true disparity between college and pro players.


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  • Milehighhawk wrote:Agreed with above. Many underestimate the true disparity between college and pro players.


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    Yup every player on the Browns made it to the NFL, not near all Bama players will.



    Then add in Man strength and experience. Bama would just get rolled and injured.
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  • Alabama would cover that easily. That roster is full of NFL talent.
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  • So for those taking Cleveland, how many points would it take for you to bet on Alabama?
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  • No idea. I would need a crap ton of points.


    I can't fathom people thinking it would be close.
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  • Alabama wins easily...if it were a high school team vs the Browns i would have to give it more thought on who would win.
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  • pC has stated why college teams will never win is simply the line play of the defense and offensesive lines. College level players simply cannot compete.

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  • Funny how people are always complaining about the quality of offensive lineman in college, but supposedly Alabama can beat Cleveland with those same OLmen.

    Here's the thing: you have grown ass men at every level in the Pros, where Alabama has a ton of talent, but it hasn't blossomed into NFL talent yet. Then throw in the experience factor and coaching.....sorry. Cleveland is beating Alabama, and there's going to be some injuries to boot.
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  • Any NFL team would destroy any college team.

    Morons in the South who live and die by their SEC juggernauts do not undetstand the fundamental concept of how unbelievably loaded with talent even the worst NFL team is. So for maybe a dozen future NFL players on Alabama, you have a complete roster of 53 on Cleveland with superior speed, technique, experience and overall talent.

    You could even come up with a team of free agent, recently released NFL players that would kill Alabama. There is so much talent at the pro level that the average fan (especially in SEC country) just doesn't appreciate.
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  • As someone who knows almost zero about college football (other than it's fun to watch), this is an interesting thread.
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  • Bama might have a few players that will go on (Go on being key here) to be big time NFL talents. Then they have a few more players that will be solid NFL starters. Then they have a few that will be fringe players and backups. And then theres the rest, probably 60% of their starters, that wont even sniff the NFL.

    Cleveland would destroy them. It wouldnt be close.
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  • Bobblehead wrote:pC has stated why college teams will never win is simply the line play of the defense and offensesive lines. College level players simply cannot compete.

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    I actually think the Bama DL would hold up pretty well against Cleveland. The OL probably not so much. So while I do think Cleveland would win, I think it would have a lot more to do with Alabama not being able to score than it would Cleveland all of a sudden lighting it up on them.

    Per the OP, with a spread of 27, I might still take the Browns but it wouldn't take many more points, I don't think, for me to consider Bama.
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  • instead of the pro bowl every year, the team with the #1 overall draft pick should play the college national champion. It could be called the "Scouting Game".

    will never happen but that would be awesome.
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  • Alabama could not finish the game. They would run out of players.
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  • LargentFan wrote:Alabama could not finish the game. They would run out of players.


    What if it were A&M? Could they keep bringing fans out of the stands to play until all 102,512 are dead?
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  • 253hawk wrote:
    LargentFan wrote:Alabama could not finish the game. They would run out of players.


    What if it were A&M? Could they keep bringing fans out of the stands to play until all 102,512 are dead?

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  • Consider how many can't-miss, shining star players have surged out of college only to drift in mediocrity through the NFL, if not flunk out completely after a few quiet years. Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Troy Smith just to name a few, and those are only quarterbacks. Now consider all the O-linemen, all the pass rushers who are never able to hold a roster spot, let alone shine in a professional game. And I'm not even talking about the complete busts like Ryan Leaf, JeMarcus Russel, or our own Aaron Curry.

    Any NFL team would devour any college team.
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  • WindCityHawk wrote:Consider how many can't-miss, shining star players have surged out of college only to drift in mediocrity through the NFL, if not flunk out completely after a few quiet years. Jimmy Clausen, Brady Quinn, Troy Smith just to name a few, and those are only quarterbacks. Now consider all the O-linemen, all the pass rushers who are never able to hold a roster spot, let alone shine in a professional game. And I'm not even talking about the complete busts like Ryan Leaf, JeMarcus Russel, or our own Aaron Curry.

    Any NFL team would devour any college team.


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  • 'Bama going up against the worst NFL team is always an amusing storyline, but the Browns would rip them apart. The gulf between college and the pros is ridiculously large.
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  • I'd take the Browns by 27, even if they benched their starters.

    (almost?) Every player on the Browns roster has at least as much college experience as every Bama player, and most have years of experience beyond that, competing at a higher level. More years to hone their craft. They have the benefit of professional trainers to help them increase their physical and mental fitness, and more years of doing so. They have seen more competition and have learned more subtle tricks to win.

    The premise that Bama would stand a chance is ridiculous.
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  • I'm not sure that a 27 point spread is the same as "standing a chance".

    That said, one thing to throw out there is that Bama practices against former pro players. I didn't read the whole article but I recall seeing a story a few weeks ago about how they put former players on their scout team or whatever.
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  • It doesn't matter how many NFL caliber players a college team has. NFL players practice, train, and study 50-70 hours a week, and at a much higher level than college players who only put in about 20 hours.
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  • Let's say 8 guys could make Cleveland's ROSTER. Maybe 4 of them can start of Cleveland. Going to be a blowout. Give me the points and the Browns. No question.
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  • HawkGA wrote:That said, one thing to throw out there is that Bama practices against former pro players. I didn't read the whole article but I recall seeing a story a few weeks ago about how they put former players on their scout team or whatever.


    So they practice against a few guys that aren't even good enough to still be in the league.

    I'll take it a step farther. I would take a team comprised solely of practice squad players scavenged from various teams around the league over Bama. Even the practice squad players are the cream of the college crop
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  • Just bringing up that they have experience practicing against men. Something other college teams don't have.

    But again, the thread isn't about who would win, it's about point spreads. So how many points would it take for you to pick Bama?
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  • Point spreads are as dumb as fantasy football, and once an NFL team has the game in hand, they back off.

    I have no doubt the Browns practice squad and third string players would have no problem beating a 27 point spread. Probably even a 34 point spread, but they wouldn't do it
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  • Lemonly wrote:Let's say 8 guys could make Cleveland's ROSTER. Maybe 4 of them can start of Cleveland. Going to be a blowout. Give me the points and the Browns. No question.


    Have you honestly looked at the Browns roster? All of Bama's guys heading pro would not only make the Browns, they'd more than likely start.

    I get there is a difference in talent level between college and pro, but the Browns roster has literally 0 draft picks on it ranging from 2011-2015. Cody Kessler is their QB. Bama would eat Kessler for lunch. Crowell wouldn't even be the best RB in the SEC. Their defense outside of aging Joe Haden and Jamie Collins is extremely average and full of fringe NCAA talent.

    More often than not you'd be like, yeah the NFL team would manhandle the college team, but thats not the case with the 2016 Browns. I think they beat Alabama, but not by 4 scores.

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  • bigskydoc wrote:I'll take it a step farther. I would take a team comprised solely of practice squad players scavenged from various teams around the league over Bama. Even the practice squad players are the cream of the college crop


    :lol:

    No. No they are not.

    A lot of you are overstating how much talent is actually in the NFL right now. But especially at the bottom of a roster.

    As of this writing, here's our PS per Ourlads

    PS
    18 Williams, Kasen WR
    28 Desir, Pierre CB
    46 Palacio, Kache OB
    75 Pericak, Will DT
    64 Harris, Tylor DT
    62 Myers, Robert OG
    85 Lucas, Marcus WR
    11 Lawler, Kenny WR
    94 Hamilton, Justin DT
    41 Farmer, George WR

    To be honest, I don't know how many of our PS players even start at Alabama, much less beat them on a comprised team. Maybe Kenny Lawler would start, but the other guys ehhhh.. not so much. Hell Pierre Desir went from being on the Browns to our PS.
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  • And 90 plus percent of the Alabama team won't be good enough to land on a practice squad.
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  • Browns toy with them and slap them around.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    bigskydoc wrote:I'll take it a step farther. I would take a team comprised solely of practice squad players scavenged from various teams around the league over Bama. Even the practice squad players are the cream of the college crop


    :lol:

    No. No they are not.

    A lot of you are overstating how much talent is actually in the NFL right now. But especially at the bottom of a roster.

    As of this writing, here's our PS per Ourlads

    PS
    18 Williams, Kasen WR
    28 Desir, Pierre CB
    46 Palacio, Kache OB
    75 Pericak, Will DT
    64 Harris, Tylor DT
    62 Myers, Robert OG
    85 Lucas, Marcus WR
    11 Lawler, Kenny WR
    94 Hamilton, Justin DT
    41 Farmer, George WR

    To be honest, I don't know how many of our PS players even start at Alabama, much less beat them on a comprised team. Maybe Kenny Lawler would start, but the other guys ehhhh.. not so much. Hell Pierre Desir went from being on the Browns to our PS.


    Those practice squad guys are all more experienced at football and physically mature than anyone on Alabama. Plus they are working at their craft 2-3 times as often as college players. I would still bet on the practice squad players to beat Alabama. Cleveland's starting team vs Alabama? Not a chance in hell. Wouldn't be surprised if the game ended 100-0.
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  • West TX Hawk wrote:Any NFL team would destroy any college team.

    Morons in the South who live and die by their SEC juggernauts do not undetstand the fundamental concept of how unbelievably loaded with talent even the worst NFL team is. So for maybe a dozen future NFL players on Alabama, you have a complete roster of 53 on Cleveland with superior speed, technique, experience and overall talent.

    You could even come up with a team of free agent, recently released NFL players that would kill Alabama. There is so much talent at the pro level that the average fan (especially in SEC country) just doesn't appreciate.


    This. x1,000,000

    'Bama is a very talented COLLEGE team. They wouldn't stand a chance against an NFL team. As far as point spread, it depends on how far out of hand the game gets before Cleveland starts kneeling on every offensive play.
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  • So apparently Clemson, Bama and Pitt could hang with the Browns.
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  • Bama can't beat Clemson so how would they beat the Browns?
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