Hall of Fame : I have a question

Foghawk":3dnie30p said:

I would assume you feel the same about Bill Belichick and Mrs. Kraft?

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Hawk-Lock":g8o628i8 said:

I totally disagree. You may not like him, but he deserves to be in the HOF. Whether he cheated or not, he is one of the greatest to ever play in the NFL. I could care less about deflategate. Most people forget that the actual deflategate game was against the awful Colts and the Pats could have beat them if they spotted them 2 TD's.

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Hawk-Lock":dvfu78i6 said:

I totally disagree. You may not like him, but he deserves to be in the HOF. Whether he cheated or not, he is one of the greatest to ever play in the NFL. I could care less about deflategate. Most people forget that the actual deflategate game was against the awful Colts and the Pats could have beat them if they spotted them 2 TD's.

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pmedic920":2txs2hcg said:

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

Future generations look up too, and aspire to be like the HOFers. What is the message we send if we allow TB to be in the HOF?

Do you think he should be allowed?
Does allowing him to get in tarnish what it all means to be a HOFer?

Do you care?, have an opinion?

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pmedic920":1hr92uz0 said:

Foghawk":1hr92uz0 said:

I would assume you feel the same about Bill Belichick and Mrs. Kraft?

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Hadn't given them much thought, yet.

TB is my focus right now.
You got an opinion on him and the HOF?

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seahawkfreak":1kunuktl said:

pmedic920":1kunuktl said:

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

Future generations look up too, and aspire to be like the HOFers. What is the message we send if we allow TB to be in the HOF?

Do you think he should be allowed?
Does allowing him to get in tarnish what it all means to be a HOFer?

Do you care?, have an opinion?

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Would you be as insecent if it the scenario happened to the Seahawks and the QB?

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Hawk-Lock":15p9ky3x said:

I totally disagree. You may not like him, but he deserves to be in the HOF. Whether he cheated or not, he is one of the greatest to ever play in the NFL. I could care less about deflategate. Most people forget that the actual deflategate game was against the awful Colts and the Pats could have beat them if they spotted them 2 TD's.

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hawkfan68":1yhe0lfx said:

Hawk-Lock":1yhe0lfx said:

I totally disagree. You may not like him, but he deserves to be in the HOF. Whether he cheated or not, he is one of the greatest to ever play in the NFL. I could care less about deflategate. Most people forget that the actual deflategate game was against the awful Colts and the Pats could have beat them if they spotted them 2 TD's.

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I get what you're saying but if he's so great why would he have to cheat? How does one know he wasn't cheating to become great?

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chris98251":1v14komr said:

Don't like him, can't deny he earned everything, air in balls and not cooperating is not about anything to do with his on the field accomplishments, on some levels you could say he was looking for an edge and an advantage, fine but both teams play with the same balls. If your looking at someone you should be looking at Belichek.

As far as using your moral compass in the sports world, should we remove everyone that drank, used pain killers, Adderall, been arrested for something, been in a domestic violence situation, as well.

I get so sick of people trying to impose their morals on everyone connected with Sports, they are entertainers, don't like them don't watch them, but their skills on the field are why they are a success, not their moral code, it's also why their team is a success in part. If so called people are offensive to people then the Front office, team are just as derelict as well, after all they either keep them or hired them as a employee in the first place so their Moral code must be questionable also.

So yes he should go in the Hall of Fame.

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pmedic920":37t9csnd said:

chris98251":37t9csnd said:

Don't like him, can't deny he earned everything, air in balls and not cooperating is not about anything to do with his on the field accomplishments, on some levels you could say he was looking for an edge and an advantage, fine but both teams play with the same balls. If your looking at someone you should be looking at Belichek.

As far as using your moral compass in the sports world, should we remove everyone that drank, used pain killers, Adderall, been arrested for something, been in a domestic violence situation, as well.

I get so sick of people trying to impose their morals on everyone connected with Sports, they are entertainers, don't like them don't watch them, but their skills on the field are why they are a success, not their moral code, it's also why their team is a success in part. If so called people are offensive to people then the Front office, team are just as derelict as well, after all they either keep them or hired them as a employee in the first place so their Moral code must be questionable also.

So yes he should go in the Hall of Fame.

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This ain't about MY morals.

This is about TBs morals, and the highest honor offered to NFL players.

My opinion is, that any player inducted should be held above reproach, and that a player that was suspended for cheating is not above reproach.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, that's why I'm asking what others think.

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I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

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chris98251":17jcznws said:

pmedic920":17jcznws said:

chris98251":17jcznws said:

Don't like him, can't deny he earned everything, air in balls and not cooperating is not about anything to do with his on the field accomplishments, on some levels you could say he was looking for an edge and an advantage, fine but both teams play with the same balls. If your looking at someone you should be looking at Belichek.

As far as using your moral compass in the sports world, should we remove everyone that drank, used pain killers, Adderall, been arrested for something, been in a domestic violence situation, as well.

I get so sick of people trying to impose their morals on everyone connected with Sports, they are entertainers, don't like them don't watch them, but their skills on the field are why they are a success, not their moral code, it's also why their team is a success in part. If so called people are offensive to people then the Front office, team are just as derelict as well, after all they either keep them or hired them as a employee in the first place so their Moral code must be questionable also.

So yes he should go in the Hall of Fame.

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This ain't about MY morals.

This is about TBs morals, and the highest honor offered to NFL players.

My opinion is, that any player inducted should be held above reproach, and that a player that was suspended for cheating is not above reproach.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, that's why I'm asking what others think.

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It is or you would not have started the topic.

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

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Also this is stating your Moral opinion and what you think.

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pmedic920":3ace08kr said:

chris98251":3ace08kr said:

pmedic920":3ace08kr said:

chris98251":3ace08kr said:

Don't like him, can't deny he earned everything, air in balls and not cooperating is not about anything to do with his on the field accomplishments, on some levels you could say he was looking for an edge and an advantage, fine but both teams play with the same balls. If your looking at someone you should be looking at Belichek.

As far as using your moral compass in the sports world, should we remove everyone that drank, used pain killers, Adderall, been arrested for something, been in a domestic violence situation, as well.

I get so sick of people trying to impose their morals on everyone connected with Sports, they are entertainers, don't like them don't watch them, but their skills on the field are why they are a success, not their moral code, it's also why their team is a success in part. If so called people are offensive to people then the Front office, team are just as derelict as well, after all they either keep them or hired them as a employee in the first place so their Moral code must be questionable also.

So yes he should go in the Hall of Fame.

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This ain't about MY morals.

This is about TBs morals, and the highest honor offered to NFL players.

My opinion is, that any player inducted should be held above reproach, and that a player that was suspended for cheating is not above reproach.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, that's why I'm asking what others think.

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It is or you would not have started the topic.

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

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Also this is stating your Moral opinion and what you think.

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Ok, fair enough.

If you're so tired of people/me imposing their/my morals on others, why don't you go visit another thread.

By making the statement that you did, you are doing the same thing you claim to be tired of.

If you want to split hairs, I'm not your Huckleberry.

I stated my opinion on the topic and asked for yours, could we please leave it at that.

If you want to debate my morals, or anybody else's, please start a thread on THAT topic.

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chris98251":2zdk365s said:

pmedic920":2zdk365s said:

chris98251":2zdk365s said:

pmedic920":2zdk365s said:

chris98251 said:

Don't like him, can't deny he earned everything, air in balls and not cooperating is not about anything to do with his on the field accomplishments, on some levels you could say he was looking for an edge and an advantage, fine but both teams play with the same balls. If your looking at someone you should be looking at Belichek.

As far as using your moral compass in the sports world, should we remove everyone that drank, used pain killers, Adderall, been arrested for something, been in a domestic violence situation, as well.

I get so sick of people trying to impose their morals on everyone connected with Sports, they are entertainers, don't like them don't watch them, but their skills on the field are why they are a success, not their moral code, it's also why their team is a success in part. If so called people are offensive to people then the Front office, team are just as derelict as well, after all they either keep them or hired them as a employee in the first place so their Moral code must be questionable also.

So yes he should go in the Hall of Fame.

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This ain't about MY morals.

This is about TBs morals, and the highest honor offered to NFL players.

My opinion is, that any player inducted should be held above reproach, and that a player that was suspended for cheating is not above reproach.

I don't expect everyone to agree with me, that's why I'm asking what others think.

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It is or you would not have started the topic.

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

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Also this is stating your Moral opinion and what you think.

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Ok, fair enough.

If you're so tired of people/me imposing their/my morals on others, why don't you go visit another thread.

By making the statement that you did, you are doing the same thing you claim to be tired of.

If you want to split hairs, I'm not your Huckleberry.

I stated my opinion on the topic and asked for yours, could we please leave it at that.

If you want to debate my morals, or anybody else's, please start a thread on THAT topic.

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Because if people don't push back on imposing people they run over every one. Just like people that complain about laws that don't vote, they had a chance to voice themselves and let it go and now complain. At least I make my thoughts known.

Actually I was stating an opinion that you asked for, I made a statement on people judging others. I would dare to guess most have situations they are not proud of doing in their lives, just they are not under a microscope like these guys are.

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pmedic920":z2mjxsnu said:

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

Future generations look up too, and aspire to be like the HOFers. What is the message we send if we allow TB to be in the HOF?

Do you think he should be allowed?
Does allowing him to get in tarnish what it all means to be a HOFer?

Do you care?, have an opinion?

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Josea16":1ye64ymx said:

pmedic920":1ye64ymx said:

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

Future generations look up too, and aspire to be like the HOFers. What is the message we send if we allow TB to be in the HOF?

Do you think he should be allowed?
Does allowing him to get in tarnish what it all means to be a HOFer?

Do you care?, have an opinion?

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Ty Cobb was a cheater, racist and worse. He's in baseball's HOF so what is your issue again? Fact is Tom Brady is the best quarterback in NFL history even better then Joe Montana by a sliver, until someone else tops him. Deflate Gate aside.

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pmedic920":3kdwqmbc said:

Josea16":3kdwqmbc said:

pmedic920":3kdwqmbc said:

I'll say it straight up, I think Tom Brady SHOULD NOT be eligible for the HOF.

He was suspended for CHEATING, breaking the rules.

Yea I get it, technically it wasn't for cheating but we all know what happened.

Future generations look up too, and aspire to be like the HOFers. What is the message we send if we allow TB to be in the HOF?

Do you think he should be allowed?
Does allowing him to get in tarnish what it all means to be a HOFer?

Do you care?, have an opinion?

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Ty Cobb was a cheater, racist and worse. He's in baseball's HOF so what is your issue again? Fact is Tom Brady is the best quarterback in NFL history even better then Joe Montana by a sliver, until someone else tops him. Deflate Gate aside.

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I don't have an issue.
I have an opinion, and I'm asking what yours is.

I'm not looking for anybody to agree with me.

It's my opinion that HOF inductees should be above reproach, on and off the field they played on.

A suspension for cheating the game?
It's my opinion that should make a guy ineligible.

Tom Brady or Walter Jones, I couldn't care less.

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