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TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:01 pm
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:04 pm
  • Does he play OL ?!!!
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:06 pm
  • saroos wrote:Does he play OL ?!!!

    He does not play OL, but he is primarily a blocking TE (he is a good pass blocker and runblocker). Think Zach Millers role here in Seattle, that is what he did in GB.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:19 pm
  • Spin Doctor wrote:
    saroos wrote:Does he play OL ?!!!

    He does not play OL, but he is primarily a blocking TE (he is a good pass blocker and runblocker). Think Zach Millers role here in Seattle, that is what he did in GB.

    O.o I've never heard Cook described as a blocking tight end. I could be wrong but I've always viewed him as more of a Vernon Davis type.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:26 pm
  • Better than Luke Willson imo. I like it.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:40 pm
  • King Dog wrote:Better than Luke Willson imo. I like it.


    Packers made him a strong offer, similar to what they signed bennet for. If that's his range, it's too high for a 2nd tight end.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:01 pm
  • Wow. It's almost as if the front office can manage negotiations with multiple players at the same time. From the Lang thread, it seemed that free agency, and the 2017 season, were over when Lang signed with Detroit.

    Who says he will be our second tight end? Sign him and trade Graham for an OT.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:08 pm
  • bigskydoc wrote:Wow. It's almost as if the front office can manage negotiations with multiple players at the same time. From the Lang thread, it seemed that free agency, and the 2017 season, were over when Lang signed with Detroit.

    Who says he will be our second tight end? Sign him and trade Graham for an OT.


    And what OT would that be? Also, just paid Graham 2m roster bonus. So we would eat that, get a less talented TE, a ??? OT and his contract. Hmmm.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:15 pm
  • Yup sign cook, and trade graham for joe thomas or some other team with a good tackle. Graham isnt a must have to this team but a tackle is.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:31 pm
  • Coug_Hawk08 wrote:And what OT would that be? Also, just paid Graham 2m roster bonus. So we would eat that, get a less talented TE, a ??? OT and his contract. Hmmm.


    My second paragraph should be read with only slightly less sarcasm than the first.

    Replacing a 7.9 million Graham with a 7 plus million Cook is, on the face of it, ludicrous of course.

    A point I've made elsewhere, the teams that have a tackle worth trading for, for the most part, don't have a QB capable of utilizing Graham in a way that would make the trade a sensible one from their perspective
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:47 pm
  • Not likely to happen unless he comes down on his demands. Blowing it in GB hopefully opened his eyes. He'd be a great replacement for Willson but still not likely to happen.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:02 pm
  • On a serious note, I love the way we seem to be helping to woo some of Green Bay's players away from them, even if they end up on a third party team.

    I really don't see a role for Cook here. Perhaps something changed at GB, but he was an atrocious blocker at St. Louis (Despite what Mark Dominik says). He was never a great receiving threat. He does have impressive size and athleticism, which probably means he will be a Seahawk by this weekend.

    Unless he came to his senses about wanting elite level money, I just don't see us signing him.

    I would throw him a 2-3 million contract that is incentive heavy.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:07 pm
  • Cook is trash, he's all hype and 0 heart, not a team player and can't stay healthy because he's a puss.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:16 pm
  • bigskydoc wrote:On a serious note, I love the way we seem to be helping to woo some of Green Bay's players away from them, even if they end up on a third party team.

    I really don't see a role for Cook here. Perhaps something changed at GB, but he was an atrocious blocker at St. Louis (Despite what Mark Dominik says). He was never a great receiving threat. He does have impressive size and athleticism, which probably means he will be a Seahawk by this weekend.

    Unless he came to his senses about wanting elite level money, I just don't see us signing him.

    I would throw him a 2-3 million contract that is incentive heavy.



    He seems to be a perfect replacement for Luke Wilson...fast, highly athletic, below average blocker, and inconsistent hands. I hope we don't sign him, if we do I'll have to say we may have the worst free agent signings this year.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:45 pm
  • didnt we try to get him before he went to the rams? i agree better than willlssson who i am surprised a bit has not been signed.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:56 pm
  • saroos wrote:Does he play OL ?!!!


    In Cables system, anyone does.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:05 pm
  • What's up with Vanett that we need to be courting Jared friggin' Cook?
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:15 pm
  • Grahamhawker wrote:What's up with Vanett that we need to be courting Jared friggin' Cook?


    Could be they plan just 1 more year with Graham then let him walk. I hate the idea, but it makes sense with Bevell and Russell and the run game here.
    There is a strong TE group in the draft, We could easily get a quality TE in the draft in the first 4 picks we have. Take that $10M from Graham and buy us a damn mauler for Russell.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:17 pm
  • Another dumb FA look. Why on God's green earth is this team even looking at Cook? Seattle has a ton of issues, but TE isn't one of them.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:20 pm
  • Could this be to try and drive down Luke Willson's number ?
    Just a thought
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:24 pm
  • nash72 wrote:Another dumb FA look. Why on God's green earth is this team even looking at Cook? Seattle has a ton of issues, but TE isn't one of them.


    Maybe because Luke Willson is probably leaving to get a good contract. FO probably doesn't like the current back up TEs after him. Maybe cause Jared Cook got high praise from Rodgers.

    Honestly, you may be the most negative person I've ever come across on the internet. Not trying to start anything, but seeing all your posts makes me think you feel better about life complaining.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:34 pm
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    A good example of why we should not be looking at Cook #89. This is what I remember of him. Pretty sure we can get this quality of play out of a rookie
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:05 pm
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    nash72 wrote:Another dumb FA look. Why on God's green earth is this team even looking at Cook? Seattle has a ton of issues, but TE isn't one of them.


    Maybe because Luke Willson is probably leaving to get a good contract. FO probably doesn't like the current back up TEs after him. Maybe cause Jared Cook got high praise from Rodgers.

    Honestly, you may be the most negative person I've ever come across on the internet. Not trying to start anything, but seeing all your posts makes me think you feel better about life complaining.


    Who cares if Willson leaves? He's mediocre at best anyways. We just drafted a TE last season. If Vannett is that bad then get another cheap TE that can block and move on. Theres no reason to throw any kind of money at Cook.

    I'm negative because this organization never fixes the issues that hold them back. We need Oline, DB's, and Dlineman and the FO is looking at Adrian Peterson and Jared Freaking Cook. That makes about as much sense as keeping Cable and Bevell around.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:16 pm
  • nash72 wrote:
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    nash72 wrote:Another dumb FA look. Why on God's green earth is this team even looking at Cook? Seattle has a ton of issues, but TE isn't one of them.


    Maybe because Luke Willson is probably leaving to get a good contract. FO probably doesn't like the current back up TEs after him. Maybe cause Jared Cook got high praise from Rodgers.

    Honestly, you may be the most negative person I've ever come across on the internet. Not trying to start anything, but seeing all your posts makes me think you feel better about life complaining.


    Who cares if Willson leaves? He's mediocre at best anyways. We just drafted a TE last season. If Vannett is that bad then get another cheap TE that can block and move on. Theres no reason to throw any kind of money at Cook.

    I'm negative because this organization never fixes the issues that hold them back. We need Oline, DB's, and Dlineman and the FO is looking at Adrian Peterson and Jared Freaking Cook. That makes about as much sense as keeping Cable and Bevell around.


    AP's last full season was 1500 and carried his team to the playoffs.

    Jared Cook is a legit #1 TE. May not be a great blocking TE but as I said above, Rodgers loved him. As negative of a person as you are, you have to admit Aaron Rodgers is pretty good.

    This organization got this team to back to back Superbowls. Feel free to tell me what other team has done that in the past 20 years. Supplemented by 2 playoff games each season that they didn't make it back to the Superbowl.

    The only team to have better success than the Seahawks in the past 15 years is the Patriots. They've also struggled to even get back to the SB, never less win it, over those 15 years.

    So please, PLEASE tell me why you have any reason to distrust this organization.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:27 pm
  • Bennett only counted $3.8 this season. 3 yr $21 Mil deal
    http://www.acmepackingcompany.com/2017/ ... t-in-2017/

    Cook will be less. Might even find himself on a 1 year prove it deal for $3-4M.

    I'm sure Luke is looking for about the same if not a little more but this should let him know we are ready to move on so he should take what's on the table.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:17 am
  • bigskydoc wrote:Image

    A good example of why we should not be looking at Cook #89. This is what I remember of him. Pretty sure we can get this quality of play out of a rookie


    He held up the defender more than several of our offensive lineman on several plays last season. He might be a downgrade at TE, but might be an upgrade at OT.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:36 am
  • Cook only makes sense if they are planning to trade Jimmy. If they are keeping Jimmy, they need a blocking TE, not another pass catching specialist.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:51 am
  • Missing_Clink wrote:Cook only makes sense if they are planning to trade Jimmy. If they are keeping Jimmy, they need a blocking TE, not another pass catching specialist.


    "specialist" and jared cook probably don't belong in the same sentence. Jimmy>Jared and it's not even close.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:51 am
  • Largent80 wrote:There are a few TE's available in the draft. Get one.


    This is actually why I like the possibility of Cook.

    Seattle does this almost every year. Adds hedges to the draft. In this case, it makes sense.

    Each draft is fluid. You can't know what opportunities you have available as it unfolds. If we simply say 'go get one in the draft', then we're probably going to need to burn one of the 5 picks we have on days one and two.

    If we sign Cook, then we can punt a TE to day three and develop one for a year if we have to.

    If, say, Bolles or Ramczyk or Lamp drops unexpectedly in the draft. We are now in a position to move up with an R1 and R3. We don't need three R3 picks because we painted ourselves into a 'get one' corner.

    What if we want a couple of DBs (or even three) in the top 75. We can still move up if needed. Or be content to roll the dice and see if standing pat still gets us our guys.

    What if we are targeting a guy like Evan Engram. But suspect that he may not last until our R2 pick. And aren't willing to move up several spots to take him?

    Sign Cook, and you can both let the draft come to you, as well as move up aggressively to get guys that have dropped. We did similar last year with Reed and Jefferson. And the year before with Lockett.

    It's all about flexibility. Cook is a good player. Not great. But definitely good. Very athletic with ourstanding testing numbers. His signing would provide value in that we can more readily take advantage of market efficiency afforded by the twists and turns of the draft.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:33 am
  • mistaowen wrote:Jared Cook is a legit #1 TE. May not be a great blocking TE but as I said above, Rodgers loved him.


    Cook may be a legit #1 tight end on a team that has either a solid line/ QB combination, or a QB who gets the ball out in under 2 seconds. GB has both.

    Rodgers has a very symbiotic relationship with his line. They both make the other look good. While Rodgers average release time may be in the 2.5 second range, he frequently has the ball out in under 1 second.

    The fact that Rodgers loved him, doesn't mean he will do well here. Brady called Hasselbeck in 2006 to tell him that he would love Deion Branch, and always seemed puzzled at how Branch never fit in and produced here.

    We could likely use Cook better than St. Louis did, but not nearly as effectively as GB. Here, he would be a less productive Jimmy Graham.

    I would rather draft a lineman and convert him to TE.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:53 am
  • Russell Wilson has done well out of two TE sets and his coach may be wanting to think about life after Jimmy Graham. I wouldn't say this is a huge surprise.

    That being said, I doubt we sign this guy, either. Seattle has more of a vested interest in saving money, jacking up the price for other teams, and leaving team with no need to look to the draft.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Tue Mar 14, 2017 8:40 am
  • Cook's athleticism is special but he's a pure receiving TE. He also drops too many balls. He's more like a big WR than a pure TE.

    At the right price, he's worth a look but he's not anywhere as good as Graham.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:24 pm
  • bigskydoc wrote:Image

    A good example of why we should not be looking at Cook #89. This is what I remember of him. Pretty sure we can get this quality of play out of a rookie

    Hell, I can cherry pick A play where Marshawn Lynch was tackled for a loss, so this ditty proves nothing.
    Cook has played a LOT better with the Packers....Coaching?
    We NEED someone that blocks better than Luke Willson...More of a Zach Miller type, PLEASE.
    Even IF they do bring Cook on board (even though I doubt they do), I think they should trade one of the 3rd round picks for a couple more, and then try'n grab a young & promising TE or Fullback in the upcoming Draft also.....We need to reboot our Run/Pass Protect game.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:19 pm
  • scutterhawk wrote:Hell, I can cherry pick A play where Marshawn Lynch was tackled for a loss, so this ditty proves nothing.


    I go to all the trouble of finding a gif to demonstrate what I remember of his play when asked to block, and this is your response?

    scutterhawk wrote:We NEED someone that blocks better than Luke Willson...More of a Zach Miller type, PLEASE.


    Yes we do, and Cook isn't that type. He's become a better receiver at GB. His blocking hasn't improved remarkably.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:32 am
  • bigskydoc wrote:
    scutterhawk wrote:Hell, I can cherry pick A play where Marshawn Lynch was tackled for a loss, so this ditty proves nothing.


    I go to all the trouble of finding a gif to demonstrate what I remember of his play when asked to block, and this is your response?

    scutterhawk wrote:We NEED someone that blocks better than Luke Willson...More of a Zach Miller type, PLEASE.


    Yes we do, and Cook isn't that type. He's become a better receiver at GB. His blocking hasn't improved remarkably.


    RE-DO your damned homework.
    You forget that ML had been TACKLED BEHIND THE LOS???, or is that just a convenience.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:31 am
  • We aren't talking about Marshawn Lynch and your non sequitur is banal.

    Cook was never a good blocking tight end in St. Louis. For GB, he has been a seam receiving threat that opens the field up for Rodgers ala Jermichael Finley. He's Jimmy Graham light with marginally better blocking.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:00 am
  • Everyone take a deep breath
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:04 am
  • Whether its Cook or not, we need a TE.

    I think Willson is gone.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:10 am
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    Hey K-Dog, I got no problem with doing just that, I'm just getting a little tired of all the so called expertise.
    I won't be the one that's doing the evaluations of players that come in for a visit, and neither is BSD, I'm also not the one that's "Cherry Picking", nor am I the one that's doing the "Nit Picking".
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:13 am
  • Regarding TE. There are a few nice options in the draft that won't be expensive. Plus we still have Vannett.

    Cooks can get a job at Dennys.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:21 pm
  • Looks like he's signing with the Raiders.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:40 pm
  • hedgehawk wrote:Looks like he's signing with the Raiders.


    It does look that way doesn't it.

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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:26 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:Regarding TE. There are a few nice options in the draft that won't be expensive. Plus we still have Vannett.

    Cooks can get a job at Dennys.


    Cooks at Dennys make over a million a year? Wow...I'm in the wrong line of work :D
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:45 pm
  • Regarding TE. There are a few nice options in the draft that won't be expensive. Plus we still have Vannett.

    Cooks can get a job at Dennys.[/quote]
    IF WE DIDN'T LAND LANG (and we didn't), then we need to do something to BOLSTER the O-Line ineptitude, we need a DECENT BLOCKING TE, and Cook fit that scheme BETTER than Willson...All this controversy is gone by the wayside as Cook is now signed with the Raiders.
    That still doesn't alter the fact that we NEED HELP AT BLOCKING FOR THE RUN, AND PASSING, whether it be a TE, or a Beefy Fullback/Tailback.
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Re: TE Jared Cook to visit Seattle
Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:02 am
  • I can't tell you how glad I am we didnt get this guy, he seems to be a bit like Malcolm Butler living off his rep from one important play.

    I watched the Cowboys - Packers game and whilst he will be remembered for his catch that set up up the winning FG the plays before that showed a guy with the heart of a pea. Rodgers targeted him a few times and despite the importance of the game he put in half-arsed efforts at catches.
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