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good game seahawks
Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:31 pm
  • Takeaways:
    Hoyer sucks
    Seahawks oline is a mess
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Re: good game seahawks
Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:36 pm
  • Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.
    Talent can get you to the playoffs.
    It takes character to win when you get there.

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Re: good game seahawks
Sun Sep 17, 2017 4:38 pm
  • Thanks. Yes the O line is a mess would like to hope for improvement but may be futile.
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Re: good game seahawks
Sun Sep 17, 2017 5:02 pm
  • SF49r wrote:Takeaways:
    Hoyer sucks
    Seahawks oline is a mess

    Accurate on all counts.
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Re: good game seahawks
Sun Sep 17, 2017 7:34 pm
  • sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.

    Loving the "Seattle" scheme so far but we still lack a LEO and I'm not sold on our deep safety yet
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:25 am
  • SF49r wrote:Takeaways:
    Hoyer sucks
    Seahawks oline is a mess


    Agreed.
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:28 am
  • sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.


    Very premature to say this. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Bottom line is that our O-line makes every defense look like champions. The Niner defense wasn't all that against Carolina and the Green Bay D came back down to Earth against Atlanta.

    Frankly it looks like SF finally has some talented people at GM and Coach, so I expect them to be much better going forward. But to make any sort of evaluation of their Defense based on their play against the Seahawks....c'mon.
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 3:34 am
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    sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.


    Very premature to say this. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Bottom line is that our O-line makes every defense look like champions. The Niner defense wasn't all that against Carolina and the Green Bay D came back down to Earth against Atlanta.

    Frankly it looks like SF finally has some talented people at GM and Coach, so I expect them to be much better going forward. But to make any sort of evaluation of their Defense based on their play against the Seahawks....c'mon.

    I thought our D held up pretty well vs the Panthers, offense committed 5 turnovers and still held them to 23
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:49 am
  • xgeoff wrote:
    sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.


    Very premature to say this. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Bottom line is that our O-line makes every defense look like champions. The Niner defense wasn't all that against Carolina and the Green Bay D came back down to Earth against Atlanta.

    Frankly it looks like SF finally has some talented people at GM and Coach, so I expect them to be much better going forward. But to make any sort of evaluation of their Defense based on their play against the Seahawks....c'mon.

    The 49ers held the Panthers under 300 yards. What happened was the offense was absolutely terrible, giving the Panthers plenty of chances.
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 6:10 am
  • SF49r wrote:
    sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.

    Loving the "Seattle" scheme so far but we still lack a LEO and I'm not sold on our deep safety yet

    I don't think we've had a "pure" LEO in years. ;)

    Deep safety is a huge requirement. We wouldn't be the D we are without Earl Thomas back there, and weren't last season after he went down with a broken leg. In many ways, or D keys off of its back end rather than the front end.
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    It takes character to win when you get there.

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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:38 am
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    sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.


    Very premature to say this. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Bottom line is that our O-line makes every defense look like champions. The Niner defense wasn't all that against Carolina and the Green Bay D came back down to Earth against Atlanta.

    Frankly it looks like SF finally has some talented people at GM and Coach, so I expect them to be much better going forward. But to make any sort of evaluation of their Defense based on their play against the Seahawks....c'mon.


    Fair to say its early, but SF actually played pretty well against Carolina. Same thing happened though...offense couldn't sustain anything and D wore down.

    As other poster said...the big thing they are missing is a good Leo. Front 7 really has a chance to be good. The Front 7 looked great yesterday (and yes, I get that Seattles O-Line is a big, big problem) and they were playing without probably the best player on the team already in Reuben Foster (which is both a compliment to Reuben and an indictment on the rest of the roster).

    The switch tho to this style of D has made a BIG difference from last year. Last year they were a 3-4 read and react defense. No they are pure attack so it isn't just a matter of getting more talent...iuts been allowing the players they've selected high in the recent past to attack instead of sitting back. Tank Carradine has actually been great through 2 weeks when he has largely been invisible for most of his NFL career. this is a MUCH better scheme fit for him.

    Anyway...I'm not crowning anyone but I think its safe to say they are MUCH improved on D from last year but that ain't exactly a high bar to clear. Lots of potential there though. Just need a Leo and a corner or 2.
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:41 am
  • sutz wrote:
    SF49r wrote:
    sutz wrote:Thanx. Looks like your guys have the makings of a good/great Defense.

    Loving the "Seattle" scheme so far but we still lack a LEO and I'm not sold on our deep safety yet

    I don't think we've had a "pure" LEO in years. ;)

    Deep safety is a huge requirement. We wouldn't be the D we are without Earl Thomas back there, and weren't last season after he went down with a broken leg. In many ways, or D keys off of its back end rather than the front end.


    I actually really like Jimmy Ward in that role, but he hasn't been able to stay on the field. Just returned for this game so we'll see how he plays and how long he can stay in the lineup. He is a true center fielder type with range. Nobody is gonna be Earl, but I like Wards potential there.

    He was a safety in college and 49ers moved him to corner.

    Feels like a lot of 49ers were playing out of position in old scheme and new scheme fits their talents far better (Carradine, Ward, Reid).
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:45 am
  • I feel bad for Eric Reid. Should have stayed out the first time but didn't want to let the team fall into the abyss potentially.
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Re: good game seahawks
Mon Sep 18, 2017 9:53 am
  • Good win hawks. It was a tough loss, but with Hoyer as QB I will get used to it. I do like the D sf is showing we are getting better. Not great but better. Usually we get zero pass rush and you all score at will. I feel like even with your line you all have never had a problem scoring on us. It took backyard football and Wilson running to do it. Good game and congrats.
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