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  • Its amazing to me how they were undefeated and lost the Superbowl and then had the most yards ever in this superbowl, Brady with 500 yards...didnt punt once..no interceptions and they lose that one too

    Both to average at best QBs

    Brady had what might of been his best performance ever in a superbowl tied with last year. #1 and #2 in passing yards in a superbowl between both games.

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  • Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.
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  • mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


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  • mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.
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  • chris98251 wrote:
    mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.


    Well thats the thing, Bevell did indeed call of few of those but not when the entire weight of the game hung on it at that point. Totally agree on working against players strengths and abilities...shameful.
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  • Hawks need another SB.
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  • chris98251 wrote:
    mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.


    but BS would?
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  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:Hawks need another SB.


    Yup. A team missing its HoF LT, stud young MLB, and MVP-caliber QB just beat the greatest dynasty of our era and maybe ever. Other teams are starting to catch up to us and if we don't win more championships, they'll continue to do so and overtake us.
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  • bmorepunk wrote:In the last 13 seasons the Patriots have won two Super Bowls. Two. That's one more than the Seahawks during that period. And we know how close 49 was. And saw the most insane collapse ever last year.

    Belechick and Brady are the best. But they play in a crap division nearly every year. I'm tired of hearing about the "Patriot Way" being how the Seahawks should do everything just like them. If it was so amazing, you'd think the Patriots would have managed to win more than two Super Bowls. It turns out it's even hard for the best, and not everything they do is something other teams should emulate.


    Who else has as many wins in that period? The Giants and Steelers? How many AFC championships and SBs have the Pats been to in that time period? There's something to be said for putting your team in the position to win a ring. They've gotten way closer far more consistently than any other team in recent history. Making AFC championships and superbowls matters. It's a testament to being one of the final four or better damn near every year and that means something.

    Extend your arbitrary time range by four years and they have, what, five rings in 17 years?
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  • adeltaY wrote:
    bmorepunk wrote:In the last 13 seasons the Patriots have won two Super Bowls. Two. That's one more than the Seahawks during that period. And we know how close 49 was. And saw the most insane collapse ever last year.

    Belechick and Brady are the best. But they play in a crap division nearly every year. I'm tired of hearing about the "Patriot Way" being how the Seahawks should do everything just like them. If it was so amazing, you'd think the Patriots would have managed to win more than two Super Bowls. It turns out it's even hard for the best, and not everything they do is something other teams should emulate.


    Who else has as many wins in that period? The Giants and Steelers? How many AFC championships and SBs have the Pats been to in that time period? There's something to be said for putting your team in the position to win a ring. They've gotten way closer far more consistently than any other team in recent history. Making AFC championships and superbowls matters. It's a testament to being one of the final four or better damn near every year and that means something.

    Extend your arbitrary time range by four years and they have, what, five rings in 17 years?


    Encompass the near misses and the ruined perfect season...I mean cmon, the Patriots stumbled onto something that has far eclipsed anything else in a span of time, no matter how you dice it, is a smidge more impressive than anyone else. What can be learned from it?
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  • I'm not arguing that everyone or even anyone should try to replicate it because I'm not sure how feasible that is, I'm just saying that what they've done is incredible and strongly disagree with the attempts here and elsewhere to mitigate their accomplishments. We would be so happy to have the kind of run they've had. For a while there, it seemed like we were going to...
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  • adeltaY wrote:I'm not arguing that everyone or even anyone should try to replicate it because I'm not sure how feasible that is, I'm just saying that what they've done is incredible and strongly disagree with the attempts here and elsewhere to mitigate their accomplishments. We would be so happy to have the kind of run they've had. For a while there, it seemed like we were going to...


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  • chris98251 wrote:
    mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.


    I think I would of had a heartattack and died had Bevell tried to....on 4th and 1.....go with a backup TE throwing the ball to the QB and if ANYONE follows said QB that play is most likely a bust. People like the result of the play but IMO it was a stupid playcall honestly worse than our goalline play but the result was good so people wont criticize it
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  • adeltaY wrote:
    Shanegotyou11 wrote:Hawks need another SB.


    Yup. A team missing its HoF LT, stud young MLB, and MVP-caliber QB just beat the greatest dynasty of our era and maybe ever. Other teams are starting to catch up to us and if we don't win more championships, they'll continue to do so and overtake us.


    Even though Wentz was close to MVP...I dont think he could of played better than Foles I just dont. Foles played out of his mind and Wentz might of choked since he is so young and inexperienced...the moment might of been too much for him. IMO I think they actually got lucky in restrospect. They were able to go back to Chip Kellys designs with Foles a few years back and I just dont think teams were able to adjust as well to it.
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  • WilsonMVP wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.


    I think I would of had a heartattack and died had Bevell tried to....on 4th and 1.....go with a backup TE throwing the ball to the QB and if ANYONE follows said QB that play is most likely a bust. People like the result of the play but IMO it was a stupid AF playcall honestly worse than our goalline play but the result was good so people wont criticize it


    Yeah I thought they should have kicked the FG but having a play that no one has seen on tape for this specific situation is just good coaching. Patriots do it all the time.
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  • Files played great. Lots of tight throws into tight windows.

    Now he gets traded to the Browns, plays one year on a low paying contract, looks like crap and never fully cashes in

    The NFL is a bit about luck. Imagine if Foles only signed a one year deal with the Eagles? How much would he be getting paid now?
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  • Frank Reich > Darrell Bevell
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  • Threedee wrote:Frank Reich > Darrell Bevell

    31 other current NFL O-coords > Darrell Bevell
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  • I know this is a down year quality wise for the NFL but damn, this was the sloppiest defensive performance I've seen in a Super Bowl in 20+ years and these were two top 5 defenses. Now I'm even more annoyed Seattle missed the playoffs, they could have beat Philly and they'd stand a chance against Brady and that defense.
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  • knownone wrote:I know this is a down year quality wise for the NFL but damn, this was the sloppiest defensive performance I've seen in a Super Bowl in 20+ years and these were two top 5 defenses. Now I'm even more annoyed Seattle missed the playoffs, they could have beat Philly and they'd stand a chance against Brady and that defense.


    Philly kicker might have missed an XP, but he hit three clutch FGs... I don't think the Hawks would've got that kind of production from their guy. :pukeface:
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  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    Threedee wrote:Frank Reich > Darrell Bevell

    31 other current NFL O-coords > Darrell Bevell


    I'd say the real # is closer to 10.

    This year we'll find out.
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    Threedee wrote:Frank Reich > Darrell Bevell

    31 other current NFL O-coords > Darrell Bevell


    I'd say the real # is closer to 10.

    This year we'll find out.
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  • mrt144 wrote:
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    bmorepunk wrote:In the last 13 seasons the Patriots have won two Super Bowls. Two. That's one more than the Seahawks during that period. And we know how close 49 was. And saw the most insane collapse ever last year.

    Belechick and Brady are the best. But they play in a crap division nearly every year. I'm tired of hearing about the "Patriot Way" being how the Seahawks should do everything just like them. If it was so amazing, you'd think the Patriots would have managed to win more than two Super Bowls. It turns out it's even hard for the best, and not everything they do is something other teams should emulate.


    Who else has as many wins in that period? The Giants and Steelers? How many AFC championships and SBs have the Pats been to in that time period? There's something to be said for putting your team in the position to win a ring. They've gotten way closer far more consistently than any other team in recent history. Making AFC championships and superbowls matters. It's a testament to being one of the final four or better damn near every year and that means something.

    Extend your arbitrary time range by four years and they have, what, five rings in 17 years?


    Encompass the near misses and the ruined perfect season...I mean cmon, the Patriots stumbled onto something that has far eclipsed anything else in a span of time, no matter how you dice it, is a smidge more impressive than anyone else. What can be learned from it?


    They're better than everyone else. But once they got past that initial roster (defense) that got them three in four years (which was still tight, it was never easy like many make it out to be), they've only pulled it off twice over the last 13 seasons with the greatest coach and QB of all time. The same number of times as the Giants and the Steelers.

    I'll gladly take that kind of situation, and we've actually had a decent approximation of it in Seattle. But when I see the cabal of our own fans talking about the Patriots like the things they do are sure-fire, it just comes out as ridiculous. The difference between the Seahawks and Patriots in terms of Super Bowl wins since the 2005 season is one play right at the goal line. And I hear a lot about how nothing the Seahawks do matters if they don't win a Super Bowl, which I don't agree with. I'll take any season where they have a shot.

    We've had people whining about "one and done" a lot (even though they're just wrong since that hasn't happened since 2004; the Seahawks have won a playoff game every year they've been in it going back to 2005). New England has done better in the same period since the Seahawks pulled their heads out of their butts after a 20 year run of ass, but if Super Bowls are the only thing that matters, the Seahawks haven't done that much worse.
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  • Great game, and an even better gameplan from Peterson (from Ferndale btw).

    Finally a coach with the balls to keep attacking and taking it to the Patriots, instead of getting conservative with a lead. That was awesome to see............and good for Foles, one of the greatest SB stories ever. Backup to dueling Tom Brady, and holding his own to be the SB MVP.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:Great game, and an even better gameplan from Peterson (from Ferndale btw).

    Finally a coach with the balls to keep attacking and taking it to the Patriots, instead of getting conservative with a lead. That was awesome to see............and good for Foles, one of the greatest SB stories ever. Backup to dueling Tom Brady, and holding his own to be the SB MVP.


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  • mikeak wrote:Files played great. Lots of tight throws into tight windows.

    Now he gets traded to the Browns, plays one year on a low paying contract, looks like crap and never fully cashes in

    The NFL is a bit about luck. Imagine if Foles only signed a one year deal with the Eagles? How much would he be getting paid now?



    Foles is going to get paid. There will be a big fat extension signed before he takes another snap.
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  • It was a gg. It was horrible defensively. I mean they missed assignments and missed tackles and dropped picks. If you love offense, you got it.
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  • mrt144 wrote:
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    mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.


    Well thats the thing, Bevell did indeed call of few of those but not when the entire weight of the game hung on it at that point. Totally agree on working against players strengths and abilities...shameful.


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    mikeak wrote:Files played great. Lots of tight throws into tight windows.

    Now he gets traded to the Browns, plays one year on a low paying contract, looks like crap and never fully cashes in

    The NFL is a bit about luck. Imagine if Foles only signed a one year deal with the Eagles? How much would he be getting paid now?



    Foles is going to get paid. There will be a big fat extension signed before he takes another snap.


    No incentive. Trade for him now - you could franchise him for two seasons and over the next three still pay the same or less than if you gave him a big deal now.

    That gives you 1-2 years to really figure out what you got and then cut your losses / sign a big deal with him. That is way better than signing a FA that may flame out.

    I would trade a low 1st rounder / 2nd knowing I can franchise him twice but I get a really cheap year to figure out what he truly is worth.
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  • knownone wrote:I know this is a down year quality wise for the NFL but damn, this was the sloppiest defensive performance I've seen in a Super Bowl in 20+ years and these were two top 5 defenses. Now I'm even more annoyed Seattle missed the playoffs, they could have beat Philly and they'd stand a chance against Brady and that defense.


    It was like watching two defenses playing prevent for 60 minutes (especially Philly's). It was enjoyable in its own way, but a lot less intense than SB 50 when the defenses were slugging it out and you were on the edge of your seat to see which offense would get a big play to crack the game open. Last night's was like basketball where it was just going to come down to who had the ball last.
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  • WilsonMVP wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    mrt144 wrote:Impressive to see a coach use a player's strengths from a previous tenure and get enough out of him to win. Tip of the hat to Pederson.


    This is what adapting to your players strengths can do versus trying to force something to work against them. The faith he had in Foles to make plays and be on the receiving end of the trick play was something Bevell would never have done in a key moment.


    I think I would of had a heartattack and died had Bevell tried to....on 4th and 1.....go with a backup TE throwing the ball to the QB and if ANYONE follows said QB that play is most likely a bust. People like the result of the play but IMO it was a stupid playcall honestly worse than our goalline play but the result was good so people wont criticize it


    Back up TE that was a QB at Texas A&M, Foles who is a great Athlete, thrown to a place nobody but Foles would catch it at, risk was no score on the drive and Patriots get the ball almost in their own end zone, score and it creates some extra thinking by Patricia and Belichek. It was also a play that they didn't have practices to prepare for and that one of their DB's didn't know was coming. It was a play that had Foles not been open all the TE had to do was try to run it in, look for someone else or throw it away.

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  • I think they should keep Foles. Will Wentz be fully healthy to start the season? Seems doubtful
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  • adeltaY wrote:I think they should keep Foles. Will Wentz be fully healthy to start the season? Seems doubtful


    Thats exactly what they'll do IMO.

    I can see an in-season trade, but not before that.
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  • seahawkfreak wrote:
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    So the dark side has to be in balance in it's own sense.


    This graphic would be better if it went all the way back to 2000 so it shows that full nine year gap where Belechick didn't win any Super Bowls. And shows how, with the greatest coach and QB of all time, they still could only win two Super Bowls in the last 13 seasons.
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  • ^Just reiterates just how hard it is to win it all in the NFL.
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    adeltaY wrote:I think they should keep Foles. Will Wentz be fully healthy to start the season? Seems doubtful


    Thats exactly what they'll do IMO.

    I can see an in-season trade, but not before that.


    They'll keep Foles, he's signed through next year and only costs the Eagles 7M. Unless someone makes them a ridiculous offer............which could happen.

    I could see the Broncos, Jags, Jets, quite a few teams might think Foles can run their team if they're ready to compete.
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