MontanaHawk05 wrote:Quibble over the $16m/yr figure and the "two elite DB's for the price of 1.5" all you like
T-Sizzle wrote:"We usually try not to move Pro Bowl players to different positions," - John Schneider
this isn't madden.
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:In fairness to the $16m and $60m guaranteed talk... that isn't happening. It's more than likely his agent setting the bar high and deliberately plucking an unlikely figure out of the air.
The highest paid corner in the NFL earned $11m this year (Champ Bailey). I suspect anything that tops that for a player coming off ACL surgery will get it done. Mario Williams only got $50m guaranteed as a non-ACL suffering free agent. I'd guestimate he'll be looking to earn over $40m in four years, which you could front load to put him at around $7m in the key years when Seattle needs to re-sign its young talent.
Not that I'm 100% behind this trade... I just think financially it's do-able.
theENGLISHseahawk wrote:MontanaHawk05 wrote:Quibble over the $16m/yr figure and the "two elite DB's for the price of 1.5" all you like
In fairness I only made that point to show it was affordable and what the benefit of such a deal would be, not as a caveat for why they should make a trade.
chris98251 wrote:"They’re going to ask for two [first-round picks],’’ the source said, which coincidentally is the same package they got for receiver Keyshawn Johnson 13 years ago. “It’s going to take probably a first and a third [round pick] and salary . . . picking up the money end of it is a big consideration as well. Maybe a throw-in seventh-round pick depending on how well he does.’’
This is what they are rumored to be asking for a 1 year rental.
This is called stupid trades 101 for any GM that does it.
chris98251 wrote:"They’re going to ask for two [first-round picks],’’ the source said, which coincidentally is the same package they got for receiver Keyshawn Johnson 13 years ago. “It’s going to take probably a first and a third [round pick] and salary . . . picking up the money end of it is a big consideration as well. Maybe a throw-in seventh-round pick depending on how well he does.’’
This is what they are rumored to be asking for a 1 year rental.
This is called stupid trades 101 for any GM that does it.
Basis4day wrote:It would be a dumb move for the jets.
I see so many suggestions that packaging flynn with a pick will somehow get you revis or fitz. Those are two of the best players in the league and somehow we are going to get them for matt flynn? You want revis or fitz, you're going to need to package an Earl Thomas.
chris98251 wrote:We are Super bowl contenders now, there is no gaurentees you make it no matter how you stack your team up. Our biggest issue was internal pass rush. Trade away the top end of your draft for your back up QB your top two picks for a big mouth injured not cleared to play yet CB that is marginally better then what you already have.
This organazation is building to make several runs at a Super Bowl not be one and done.
chris98251 wrote:There is a long history of players with knee injuries not being back to from until the second year, they are asking to trade him as is now before they have to pay his roster bonus. Manning took 1 1/2 years plus to come back, Peterson was an enigma and did something that was not projected. A player that relies completly on his burst, speed, change of direction and stress on ligements to do all those things is a gamble that isn't necessary for this team.
He could be 100 percent, but do you discard a full house hoping to draw a straight flush?
bestfightstory wrote:Flynn and Browner or Lane (Jets choice) and our 2nd for Revis and the Jets 3rd.
IF and I repeat.... IF we are interested. That is what we are offering. You know it as well as I do.
bigcc wrote:if Browner expects a pro-bowler type contract when he resigns, the trade starts to make more sense as I don't think he's anywhere near that kind of value
Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure on this Revis,
But I do know, you have Revis and Sherman
You have something that is unheard of in the NFL, No one had ever had these two type of shutdown players in the same backfield and with ET back for safty YOU do not have a threat of Outside receivers at all.
YOu have just eliminated the passing in a passing league.
Basis4day wrote:Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure on this Revis,
But I do know, you have Revis and Sherman
You have something that is unheard of in the NFL, No one had ever had these two type of shutdown players in the same backfield and with ET back for safty YOU do not have a threat of Outside receivers at all.
YOu have just eliminated the passing in a passing league.
Even the best CB's get burned. It happens. The league is also trending towards pass catching TE's. It wasn't your traditional #1 Wide receiver threat that burned us in the passing game. It was slot receivers and TEs.
As much as a Madden like fantasy as this is, it's just not going to happen.
skater18000 wrote:Basis4day wrote:Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure on this Revis,
But I do know, you have Revis and Sherman
You have something that is unheard of in the NFL, No one had ever had these two type of shutdown players in the same backfield and with ET back for safty YOU do not have a threat of Outside receivers at all.
YOu have just eliminated the passing in a passing league.
Even the best CB's get burned. It happens. The league is also trending towards pass catching TE's. It wasn't your traditional #1 Wide receiver threat that burned us in the passing game. It was slot receivers and TEs.
As much as a Madden like fantasy as this is, it's just not going to happen.
If we do get Revis, Don't you think we will have a new answer for pass catching TE's. His name is Brandon Browner.
skater18000 wrote:Basis4day wrote:Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure on this Revis,
But I do know, you have Revis and Sherman
You have something that is unheard of in the NFL, No one had ever had these two type of shutdown players in the same backfield and with ET back for safty YOU do not have a threat of Outside receivers at all.
YOu have just eliminated the passing in a passing league.
Even the best CB's get burned. It happens. The league is also trending towards pass catching TE's. It wasn't your traditional #1 Wide receiver threat that burned us in the passing game. It was slot receivers and TEs.
As much as a Madden like fantasy as this is, it's just not going to happen.
If we do get Revis, Don't you think we will have a new answer for pass catching TE's. His name is Brandon Browner.
skater18000 wrote:Basis4day wrote:Bobblehead wrote:I"m not sure on this Revis,
But I do know, you have Revis and Sherman
You have something that is unheard of in the NFL, No one had ever had these two type of shutdown players in the same backfield and with ET back for safty YOU do not have a threat of Outside receivers at all.
YOu have just eliminated the passing in a passing league.
Even the best CB's get burned. It happens. The league is also trending towards pass catching TE's. It wasn't your traditional #1 Wide receiver threat that burned us in the passing game. It was slot receivers and TEs.
As much as a Madden like fantasy as this is, it's just not going to happen.
If we do get Revis, Don't you think we will have a new answer for pass catching TE's. His name is Brandon Browner.
skater18000 wrote:If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance) There is something to be said about...
1. Kam Chancellor's positioning (WLB or Nickle Coverage LB to cover Slower TE's and RB's)
2. Brandon Browner? ( He could play Safety in man coverage in our cover 1 situations with Earl back there, he could also play #2 CB outside in nickle situations with Revis inside as he has the speed to run with anyone and can cover anyone big or small, <--- Revis that is...)
3. Leroy and Tru (Probably can kiss Leroy and Tru goodbye, as they are are already likely to leave as it is).
4. Sherman on regular downs ( Does he move to RCB because he is a great fit at LCB already, not good to change an all pro around 2 much, but I believe the affects would be minuscule.
5. Kam Chancellors Role? (If somehow Brandon Browner is moved to SS and he moves to LB or Nickle LB and Browner becomes a great SS then what happens to Kam? Of course if he is a force at LB then he can play there but if it doesn't work out to well what does that make Kam???)
skater18000 wrote:If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance)
volsunghawk wrote:skater18000 wrote:If we bring in Revis (More likely then people think, I'd say about a 20% chance)
I think your estimate is about 21% too high.
chris98251 wrote:Maybe you should put Madden away, he has made changes on defesne new line coach new coordinator. Our problem for the 1000000000000000000000000099th time is not our damn secondary.
How do you know he doesn't like any DB's in the draft? is there an inside source who knows someone that is whispering sweet nothings in your ear?
Woodson is a guy that was brought in to lead the secondary there. We have leaders.
Lastly until you can run and cover again you ain't dominating anything. Also you better prove it before anyone gives you 6 million a year, thats 5.5 million more then the BEST CB in the league is making.
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