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  • Throwdown wrote:Couldn't Donatell just resign from the team and pursue the Saints DC position?


    Ahh, to be honest your guess is as good as mine's. LOL.

    drdiags wrote:The Bears did this with Martz and Tice if I remember correctly a couple years ago or last season with Tice. It has been done before. I thought if it was an promotion that teams wouldn't get in the way but I see that isn't the case.


    From what I keep hearing online and on the radio, teams can't block teams requesting interviews only if it's for a head coaching job. I learned the NFL only recognizes two types of coaches, head coaches and assistants. Therefore, it's considered a "lateral move", going from one assistant job to another.

    It's been much discussed on SaintsReport, and I find it's a stupid rule to be honest. If you think about it, there should be at least 3 levels of coaches: head coach, then coordinators, then position coaches. It's not a lateral move, because then you're going from coaching one set of guys (DB's in Donatell's case) to a whole side of the ball. It's like saying that going from a field officer to a general in the military isn't a promotion.

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  • Throwdown wrote:Couldn't Donatell just resign from the team and pursue the Saints DC position?


    I would guess his contract prohibits this.

    Even if it didn't, it'd be a pretty foolish move unless he was all but guaranteed the job. No way to get that kind of assurance without an interview, which the Niners won't grant. It'd probably be tampering otherwise.
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  • Throwdown wrote:Couldn't Donatell just resign from the team and pursue the Saints DC position?


    That would make sense, if the Saints told him he was a shoo-in for the DC job. Otherwise he could get screwed having no job at all! Something tells me though that Goddell would raise a stink over something like this...not going through a "fair and equitable" hiring process if the Saints did that.
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  • What? No niner fans defending him in this case? Strange.

    Usually one tiny little comment about the niners and they come out of nowhere and attack the thread like locusts.
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  • twisted_steel2 wrote:What? No niner fans defending him in this case? Strange.

    Usually one tiny little comment about the niners and they come out of nowhere and attack the thread like locusts.


    Have they even been around? I figured they are still in morning.
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:What? No niner fans defending him in this case? Strange.

    Usually one tiny little comment about the niners and they come out of nowhere and attack the thread like locusts.


    Have they even been around? I figured they are still in morning.

    They should be in afternoon right about now.
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  • I know I'm a little late, but shouldn't the title of this thread read:

    "DB Coach blocks DB coach from DC interview"?

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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:What? No niner fans defending him in this case? Strange.

    Usually one tiny little comment about the niners and they come out of nowhere and attack the thread like locusts.


    Have they even been around? I figured they are still in morning.



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  • I was under the impression that this really isn't that uncommon, SF is more following the trend than anything. Pete Carroll said in his book that the same thing happened to him when he was coaching with the Vikings and it pissed him off, so he's always allowed his coaches to interview at other jobs and take the chance to advance their coaching career.
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  • Much ado about nothing, Donatell is being groomed for the coordinator job in SF once Fangio leaves so it only makes good sense and Donatell isnt complaining in the least because he knows it. Plus the Saints are only kicking tires, we all know who they are going to hire.
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  • It is interesting that anyone is looking to bring Donatell back to the D-Coordinator position. Every season he was the D-Coordinator for Green Bay and then Atlanta, his defenses finished worse than they were the previous season.
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  • Goldrush wrote:Much ado about nothing, Donatell is being groomed for the coordinator job in SF once Fangio leaves so it only makes good sense and Donatell isnt complaining in the least because he knows it. Plus the Saints are only kicking tires, we all know who they are going to hire.


    Maybe he is genuinely okay with it and maybe he isn't, but honestly, what else could he possibly say in public? He would jeopardize his shot at the Niners DC job and all others by whining about the situation.
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  • DavidSeven wrote:
    Goldrush wrote:Much ado about nothing, Donatell is being groomed for the coordinator job in SF once Fangio leaves so it only makes good sense and Donatell isnt complaining in the least because he knows it. Plus the Saints are only kicking tires, we all know who they are going to hire.


    Maybe he is genuinely okay with it and maybe he isn't, but honestly, what else could he possibly say in public? He would jeopardize his shot at the Niners DC job and all others by whining about the situation.


    Exactly.
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  • Douchebag harbaugh style. jim, jim jim jim jim, douchebag harbaugh style.
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  • Isn't there functionality for forums to auto-replace certain words with other words? I see the functionality often used for profanity censoring.

    I'd love to auto-replace any instance of "Harbaugh" with "Douchebaugh", except in cases in which "John" precedes the Harbaugh.
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  • SouthSoundHawk wrote:Poor guy.


    Is anyone surprised that Jimmy doesn't really care about his staff/players?


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    twisted_steel2 wrote:What? No niner fans defending him in this case? Strange.

    Usually one tiny little comment about the niners and they come out of nowhere and attack the thread like locusts.


    Have they even been around? I figured they are still in morning.



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    lol this topic doesnt even remotely concern us niner fans.
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  • CANHawk wrote:Harbs is so going to flame out big time. Fangio and Roman are going to get HC gigs at some point (if the 9'ers weren't in the SB, it probably would have happened this year) and Harbs will be exposed for the lack luster coach he is. No good talent is going to want to work under him because he's clearly a lunatic. The public embarassment of the .500 then losing seasons will drive him nuts and he'll go off the deep end, likely in public (i'm thinking at a press conference or an Applebee's).

    It's going to be glorious to see. GLORIOUS!

    God I hate Harbaugh. Not just sports hate. I think I REALLY hate him. Like "I want him to go bankrupt and end up living under an overpass" kind of hate. Screw that guy. Screw him right in his face hole. Screw him right in the face hole with a righteous pecker of justice!


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  • kidhawk wrote:I think it can seriously backfire on a coach. When you deny a person the right to seek to better themselves, they can easily turn that into resentment, which is something that does not bode well for job performance.

    Pete let Quinn go, and he was able to garner valuable experience, and is now coming back having more experience to draw from. IMO, a guy like Quinn will be more willing to go that extra mile for the team and the coach while the guy like Donatell, may, without even realize it, hold back a little bit.


    I agree. The organization thought very highly of Quinn but let him depart on good terms only to have him back later as our defensive coordinator. I can't wait to see what Quinn does to improve our defense, especially the line, and we have him back on staff due in part to the classy way we treat those who depart the organization.
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  • Your QB aint even that good, brah.
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  • For those of you that view this as a douche move, then the Franchise tag is considered to be worse concept than what Harbaugh did.
    Would you guys think it would still be a douche move if a player like Browner, holds out for more money?

    HawkFan72 wrote:I guess you could look at it like the coach just holding his position coaches to the same standard as the players. You signed a contract here, you stay here until it is up or until you are fired.

    When a player is wanted by another team, they are not allowed to jump ship...even if it is for a promotion to more playing time. Now when a 49er player whines that he wants out of his contract, Harbaugh can say "nope, you signed a deal. Just like the coaches."

    There are multiple ways to look at it. It's not just "Harbaugh is being mean".



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  • Throwdown wrote:Your QB aint even that good, brah.



    Are you serious?

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  • No homerism in it, I don't think he's that good.
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  • The Outfield wrote:Isn't there functionality for forums to auto-replace certain words with other words? I see the functionality often used for profanity censoring.

    I'd love to auto-replace any instance of "Harbaugh" with "Douchebaugh", except in cases in which "John" precedes the Harbaugh.


    I have been using Johnbaugh and Douchebaugh.
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  • Throwdown wrote:No homerism in it, I don't think he's that good.


    I think there is definitely uncertainty, given the epic offensive line he had this year.
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  • Carmon1274 wrote:For those of you that view this as a douche move, then the Franchise tag is considered to be worse concept than what Harbaugh did.
    Would you guys think it would still be a douche move if a player like Browner, holds out for more money?

    HawkFan72 wrote:I guess you could look at it like the coach just holding his position coaches to the same standard as the players. You signed a contract here, you stay here until it is up or until you are fired.

    When a player is wanted by another team, they are not allowed to jump ship...even if it is for a promotion to more playing time. Now when a 49er player whines that he wants out of his contract, Harbaugh can say "nope, you signed a deal. Just like the coaches."

    There are multiple ways to look at it. It's not just "Harbaugh is being mean".



    This is true.


    There is a big difference between the two. In recieving the franchise tag you are well compensated. Second if its not douchebaggery than why is Harbaugh the only coach I've ever heard of to do it. Im sure there have been others and they are douches too. Lastly how is a player wanting a raise to reflect his on field value equal to purposely blocking someone else's personal growth?
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    “Nothing is better than this. I’d give up the years of advancement to be a part of this. There is so much that goes along with it. This is the highest high. This is why you coach,” Donatell said, via CSNBayArea.com.

    Dude wants to stay anyway.
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  • TheGOAT#80 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/ed-donatell-says-its-fair-to-block-him-from-interviewing/

    “Nothing is better than this. I’d give up the years of advancement to be a part of this. There is so much that goes along with it. This is the highest high. This is why you coach,” Donatell said, via CSNBayArea.com.

    Dude wants to stay anyway.


    That quote was from the week before he was denied a chance to interview.

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  • Throwdown wrote:Your QB aint even that good, brah.


    My QB is better than both his QB's and his coach put together. :th2thumbs: :stirthepot:

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  • Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.
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  • TheGOAT#80 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/06/ed-donatell-says-its-fair-to-block-him-from-interviewing/

    “Nothing is better than this. I’d give up the years of advancement to be a part of this. There is so much that goes along with it. This is the highest high. This is why you coach,” Donatell said, via CSNBayArea.com.

    Dude wants to stay anyway.



    As we already knew, unless your a hater of course.
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  • Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    Goldrush wrote:As we already knew, unless your a hater of course.


    How'd that "Quest for Six" work out for you buddy? :0190l:
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  • Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    I don't think you understand the words "sheer" or "consumed" considering there are about 3 threads in the NFL section of this forum talking about the niners, and one of those was started by a Redskins fan. Maybe you are the one consumed with another team considering you are on their board talking trash and pretending you are so above it all.
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  • Archer wrote:
    Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    I don't think you understand the words "sheer" or "consumed" considering there are about 3 threads in the NFL section of this forum talking about the niners, and one of those was started by a Redskins fan. Maybe you are the one consumed with another team considering you are on their board talking trash and pretending you are so above it all.


    haha true i find it more flattering at "the sheer number" of 49ers on our board
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  • Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    Who is on who's message board? The sheer number of dumb dumb niner fans consumed with this site is quite flattering.
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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    Who is on who's message board? The sheer number of dumb dumb niner fans consumed with this site is quite flattering.


    But if all you 49er fans are done "flattering" this site feel free to piss off now!
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    Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    Goldrush wrote:As we already knew, unless your a hater of course.


    How'd that "Quest for Six" work out for you buddy? :0190l:


    Ill take a season like that any time thanks.
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  • Archer wrote:
    Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    I don't think you understand the words "sheer" or "consumed" considering there are about 3 threads in the NFL section of this forum talking about the niners, and one of those was started by a Redskins fan. Maybe you are the one consumed with another team considering you are on their board talking trash and pretending you are so above it all.



    Hmm..looks around at the forum threads. "Yup you really got me" only a dozen niner related threads this week.

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  • CALIHAWK1 wrote:
    Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    Who is on who's message board? The sheer number of dumb dumb niner fans consumed with this site is quite flattering.


    I read all the board of divisional opponents on occasion, I just pointed out no one talks about the Niners as much as hawks fans.
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  • Goldrush wrote:
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    Goldrush wrote:Lol at the sheer number of hawks fans (a team I respect) in here utterly consumed with the 49ers, Kaepernick and harbaugh. It's actually quite flattering.


    Who is on who's message board? The sheer number of dumb dumb niner fans consumed with this site is quite flattering.


    I read all the board of divisional opponents on occasion, I just pointed out no one talks about the Niners as much as hawks fans.


    Seriously?? No kidding. And how many threads are there about the Hawks on the "webzone" or the .com forum? It would be safe to say that considering the status of each team that those topics are going to be natural.
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  • Seriously?? No kidding. And how many threads are there about the Hawks on the "webzone" or the .com forum? It would be safe to say that considering the status of each team that those topics are going to be natural.


    I would say thats true to an extent, difference is you dont see the volume of "Harbaugh is a scumbag" or "Kaepernick is a punk" threads on the rams and cards boards nor number of the same kinds of things being said on the Niners board with your coaches a players. Course they'll always be some of that but again you guys seem consumed by it. Just an observation.
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    Seriously?? No kidding. And how many threads are there about the Hawks on the "webzone" or the .com forum? It would be safe to say that considering the status of each team that those topics are going to be natural.


    I would say thats true to an extent, difference is you dont see the volume of "Harbaugh is a scumbag" or "Kaepernick is a punk" threads on the rams and cards boards nor number of the same kinds of things being said on the Niners board with your coaches a players. Course they'll always be some of that but again you guys seem consumed by it. Just an observation.

    Don't be thick. the Pete is a cheat comments from Niner fans are constant.

    Lets just agree to disagree. and hate each other. Good, clean, pure football hate.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:
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    Seriously?? No kidding. And how many threads are there about the Hawks on the "webzone" or the .com forum? It would be safe to say that considering the status of each team that those topics are going to be natural.


    I would say thats true to an extent, difference is you dont see the volume of "Harbaugh is a scumbag" or "Kaepernick is a punk" threads on the rams and cards boards nor number of the same kinds of things being said on the Niners board with your coaches a players. Course they'll always be some of that but again you guys seem consumed by it. Just an observation.

    Don't be thick. the Pete is a cheat comments from Niner fans are constant.

    Lets just agree to disagree. and hate each other. Good, clean, pure football hate.


    Not being thick, its just a fact. Im on the 49ers board a lot and again its no where near the infatuation you guys have with us. There's plenty of red meat if we wanted to have a dozen threads of the sort with Pete, Sherman and others but its a far less priority on our side to do so it seems.
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  • This is true. However as far as 49ers.com is concerned, it is because the moderators merge all like threads together which is why we now have the one Seattle thread in our NFL section.
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  • San Frans posting here are blatantly far more infatuated with the Seahawks and their fans than any Hawks fan here who doesn't post on a Niner board. Not even up for discussion.
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  • pinksheets wrote:San Frans posting here are blatantly far more infatuated with the Seahawks and their fans than any Hawks fan here who doesn't post on a Niner board. Not even up for discussion.


    So what about the Hawks fans who are registered on Niners sites?
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  • NinerLifer wrote:
    pinksheets wrote:San Frans posting here are blatantly far more infatuated with the Seahawks and their fans than any Hawks fan here who doesn't post on a Niner board. Not even up for discussion.


    So what about the Hawks fans who are registered on Niners sites?

    They are just as lame as you.
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  • Bingo!
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  • Scottemojo wrote:They are just as lame as you.


    Haha, pretty much.
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  • Scottemojo wrote:
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    pinksheets wrote:San Frans posting here are blatantly far more infatuated with the Seahawks and their fans than any Hawks fan here who doesn't post on a Niner board. Not even up for discussion.


    So what about the Hawks fans who are registered on Niners sites?

    They are just as lame as you.


    From all the comments about how you guys claim that Niner fans come on here and troll your boards, I am beginning to believe that most were in response to comments like this. Looking like some on here can dish it out but can't take it in return.
    DISCLAIMER:

    The trash talking that I do occasionally this week is strictly for gamesmanship between opposing fanbases as a result of our upcoming matchup this week on SNF. It by no means should be taken personally.
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