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  • Tacoma's got more gang crime in the average city block than the whole Tukwila/Burien/Renton area combined, practically. People make jokes about that area being the ghetto, but it's not a ghetto. Not even close. You want to see ghetto, go to east L.A. or get off the loop in Chicago at night in the right (wrong, lol) areas.

    A bunch of nervous rich housewives being scared of the Tukwila/Burien/Renton area does not a ghetto make.
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  • mikeak wrote:From this article: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-o ... ble-murder

    The working theory, according to the Globe, is that Odin Lloyd -- the man Hernandez is charged with killing -- may have had information about Hernandez's role in the double murders.

    Pure speculation but Hernandez stated that you can't trust nobody before he allegedly went and killed Lloyd. So to me the question is if Lloyd was talking to the police, Lloyd's gf knew that he was (who I guess is friends / sister with Hernandez's gf which is how he found out). This would also explain the text - I am with NFL - as in if something happens to me tell the police I went with Hernandez

    maybe I am reading to much into it but it really seems like a logical path to how things went to where they went. A whole lot more logical than my buddy talked to someone in a bar last week that I don't like so now at 2.30am I am going to go kill him and then later smash the security system instead of turning it off.


    I think it's possible that the people he was talking to in the club may have been acquaintances of the people who were wounded or the 2 that died. Supposedly Loyd was talking to a "group that Aaron had a beef with."
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Tacoma's got more gang crime in the average city block than the whole Tukwila/Burien/Renton area combined, practically. People make jokes about that area being the ghetto, but it's not a ghetto. Not even close. You want to see ghetto, go to east L.A. or get off the loop in Chicago at night in the right (wrong, lol) areas.

    A bunch of nervous rich housewives being scared of the Tukwila/Burien/Renton area does not a ghetto make.

    It always cracks me up when people are like "OMG!" When I say I'm from Tacoma. It's not that bad and hasn't been for years. I was actually talking the other day about how other cities should follow Tacoma's model of cleaning up the city. The two worst areas, Salishan and Hilltop are no longer the gang-infested areas they once were. The neighborhoods now boast new homes, new schools, and good businesses.
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  • Glove, Tacoma isn't that bad, I agree; but it IS worse than any place in King County.
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  • -The Glove- wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:Tacoma's got more gang crime in the average city block than the whole Tukwila/Burien/Renton area combined, practically. People make jokes about that area being the ghetto, but it's not a ghetto. Not even close. You want to see ghetto, go to east L.A. or get off the loop in Chicago at night in the right (wrong, lol) areas.

    A bunch of nervous rich housewives being scared of the Tukwila/Burien/Renton area does not a ghetto make.

    It always cracks me up when people are like "OMG!" When I say I'm from Tacoma. It's not that bad and hasn't been for years. I was actually talking the other day about how other cities should follow Tacoma's model of cleaning up the city. The two worst areas, Salishan and Hilltop are no longer the gang-infested areas they once were. The neighborhoods now boast new homes, new schools, and good businesses.

    They cleaned up the HIlltop? Good for them.
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  • Interesting, Tukwila and Burien both have higher overall crime rates than Tacoma, now. Tacoma has really improved in the last year or two.

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ta ... ngton.html
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  • CPHawk wrote:Crazy two brothers can grow up in the same environment, yet one becomes a principal and the other a thug.



    Guess he was a Sr when his dad died

    Hernandez, 23, negotiated a narrow path to such luxurious living. Born and raised in Bristol, Conn., a two-hour commute from his current home, Hernandez excelled as a prep star at Bristol Central High, establishing several state receiving records before losing his father, Dennis, to complications from hernia surgery. The roots of Hernandez’s unraveling begin there, by most accounts, but can be traced through his time in Florida and in his first three seasons as a Patriot. Coaches, ranging from Geno Auriemma in AAU, to Urban Meyer in Gainesville, Fla., and now Bill Belichick, have gotten the most out of him on the basketball court and football field, but many also expressed concern about his behavior and maturity as he won a college title and played in a Super Bowl.

    “I couldn’t be happier with where I am now and how it worked out,” Hernandez said at Media Day leading up to the Super Bowl in February of 2012. “This is a dream come true.”

    Darker days preceded that gilded run. Hernandez was a nightmare for his mother in light of his father’s death, which occurred before senior year in high school.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... z2XSZnJXKt


    Looking for the article about his brother ...

    EDIT: My recollections stink to high heaven. What is happening to that once sharp mind I had?

    New England tight end Aaron Hernandez, who has been embroiled in the homicide investigation of a semi-pro football player, is the brother of Iowa graduate assistant and tight ends coach DJ Hernandez.


    http://hawkcentral.com/2013/06/25/hawkeye-assistant-is-brother-is-embattled-patriots-tight-end-hernandez/
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  • CPHawk wrote:
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    then again the question is always the same, where's his father?


    Pops unexpectedly died from an illness when Hernandez was in his early teens and his older brother was just about done with High school. His brother has gone on to be a HS Principal or dean at some small college. Aaron took the troubled kid path. Doesn't justify his actions but since you asked, that is what I read when all this began hitting the fan.



    Crazy two brothers can grow up in the same environment, yet one becomes a principal and the other a thug.


    Their paths diverged ALMOST as much as Cliff and Chris Paul.
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  • drdiags wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:Crazy two brothers can grow up in the same environment, yet one becomes a principal and the other a thug.



    Guess he was a Sr when his dad died

    Hernandez, 23, negotiated a narrow path to such luxurious living. Born and raised in Bristol, Conn., a two-hour commute from his current home, Hernandez excelled as a prep star at Bristol Central High, establishing several state receiving records before losing his father, Dennis, to complications from hernia surgery. The roots of Hernandez’s unraveling begin there, by most accounts, but can be traced through his time in Florida and in his first three seasons as a Patriot. Coaches, ranging from Geno Auriemma in AAU, to Urban Meyer in Gainesville, Fla., and now Bill Belichick, have gotten the most out of him on the basketball court and football field, but many also expressed concern about his behavior and maturity as he won a college title and played in a Super Bowl.

    “I couldn’t be happier with where I am now and how it worked out,” Hernandez said at Media Day leading up to the Super Bowl in February of 2012. “This is a dream come true.”

    Darker days preceded that gilded run. Hernandez was a nightmare for his mother in light of his father’s death, which occurred before senior year in high school.


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/footb ... z2XSZnJXKt


    Looking for the article about his brother ...

    EDIT: My recollections stink to high heaven. What is happening to that once sharp mind I had?

    New England tight end Aaron Hernandez, who has been embroiled in the homicide investigation of a semi-pro football player, is the brother of Iowa graduate assistant and tight ends coach DJ Hernandez.


    http://hawkcentral.com/2013/06/25/hawkeye-assistant-is-brother-is-embattled-patriots-tight-end-hernandez/

    Sounds like DJ is not shocked and kind of knew one day he'd get this news. He had to have known what his brother was capable of.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Interesting, Tukwila and Burien both have higher overall crime rates than Tacoma, now. Tacoma has really improved in the last year or two.

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ta ... ngton.html


    Tukwila,Burien,Renton have nothing, most people there either false claim or rep CD/South end. I would say the south end is what most people would consider the "hood". South end as stated before as Rainer Beach, New Holly, Skyway, etc. (south seattle area).

    And yeah, any area in Washington is definitely not even close to as ghetto/dangerous as south central, south chicago, east oakland, detroit, etc.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Interesting, Tukwila and Burien both have higher overall crime rates than Tacoma, now. Tacoma has really improved in the last year or two.

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ta ... ngton.html

    There are areas in Burien that are a bit sketchy, but as someone who has grown up here and been all around, I've never been in an area of any town around here where I felt unsafe. Besides Aaron Hernandez Boulevard in Ballard.
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
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  • Wait wait wait, that double homicide is looking more and more like Hernandez was involved? this dude was really about that life, what in the hell!
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  • -The Glove- wrote:
    RolandDeschain wrote:Tacoma's got more gang crime in the average city block than the whole Tukwila/Burien/Renton area combined, practically. People make jokes about that area being the ghetto, but it's not a ghetto. Not even close. You want to see ghetto, go to east L.A. or get off the loop in Chicago at night in the right (wrong, lol) areas.

    A bunch of nervous rich housewives being scared of the Tukwila/Burien/Renton area does not a ghetto make.

    It always cracks me up when people are like "OMG!" When I say I'm from Tacoma. It's not that bad and hasn't been for years. I was actually talking the other day about how other cities should follow Tacoma's model of cleaning up the city. The two worst areas, Salishan and Hilltop are no longer the gang-infested areas they once were. The neighborhoods now boast new homes, new schools, and good businesses.


    Nope not at all, I haven't been afraid of driving through Hilltop late at night in years now, the Police really cracked down on the gang problem there, now if they could handle Lakewood all would be alright. Spanaway, since I work there never really took off, but you do see the colors being flown. Lakewood/Steilacoom/Tillacum, and this little area not too far from a gate into Fort Lewis are not where you want to be at night though, they've cracked down, but some nights its like you're driving through a walking dead scene.
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  • Throwdown wrote:
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    RolandDeschain wrote:Tacoma's got more gang crime in the average city block than the whole Tukwila/Burien/Renton area combined, practically. People make jokes about that area being the ghetto, but it's not a ghetto. Not even close. You want to see ghetto, go to east L.A. or get off the loop in Chicago at night in the right (wrong, lol) areas.

    A bunch of nervous rich housewives being scared of the Tukwila/Burien/Renton area does not a ghetto make.

    It always cracks me up when people are like "OMG!" When I say I'm from Tacoma. It's not that bad and hasn't been for years. I was actually talking the other day about how other cities should follow Tacoma's model of cleaning up the city. The two worst areas, Salishan and Hilltop are no longer the gang-infested areas they once were. The neighborhoods now boast new homes, new schools, and good businesses.


    Nope not at all, I haven't been afraid of driving through Hilltop late at night in years now, the Police really cracked down on the gang problem there, now if they could handle Lakewood all would be alright. Spanaway, since I work there never really took off, but you do see the colors being flown. Lakewood/Steilacoom/Tillacum, and this little area not too far from a gate into Fort Lewis are not where you want to be at night though, they've cracked down, but some nights its like you're driving through a walking dead scene.


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  • IMO the 'third' guy in this group that killed Lloyd is working with the cops, probably even made the decision to turn himself in before that night was even over after realizing what happens to anyone who crosses hernandez.

    Hernandez was a suspect from the start but they didn't name him one to start the investigation so that they could see what hernandez did and who he contacted while knowing he was in danger of being found out, after hearing from this informant that Hernandez has been involved in other incidents.

    I think they must have some really strong evidence (such as this informant, and more) since they are so willing to quickly assign another double-murder to hernandez without worrying about the repercussions of diminishing his character if they are wrong. This evidence hasn't come out yet due to protecting the informant from Hernandez' other associates, and because they already know what is already available knowledge, Hernandez would be denied bail without it.

    Innocent until proven guilty, but I think Hernandez isn't too far away from seeing a lifetime of sharing a 7x10 with a buddy who will be taking over for Tom Brady tossing him some balls.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Interesting, Tukwila and Burien both have higher overall crime rates than Tacoma, now. Tacoma has really improved in the last year or two.

    http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ta ... ngton.html

    Tukwila has ALWAYS had higher crime rate. its becuase very few people actually live in tukkwila and skews the numbers.
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
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  • Never really heard of eastern Washington having a lot of gang related activity, but I would conisder the "south end" (South Seattle/Rainer Beach/New Holly/Skyway) to be the most gang infested. Tacoma is a big one too.


    South Seattle isn't even that bad anymore, as the area has become gentrified more and more of the criminals are heading to Kent/Tukwila

    I'm surprised you haven't heard of gang activity in Eastern Washington -- lots of Hispanic gangs out there. It's not all African-American gangs.
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  • There's tons of gang crap in the Yakima Valley (Sunnyside, Toppenish, Grandview, etc). They're always finding bodies out there.
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  • One thing to keep in mind is the majority of gang violence is not something the media reports anymore. I think the police and majority of the public really dont care what happens in the poorer neighborhoods, so you rarerly hear about shootings n such on the news unless someone totally innocent is involved. These kids in gangs are shooting at each other everyday, no one cares unless someone innocent is hurt.
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  • largenutz wrote:One thing to keep in mind is the majority of gang violence is not something the media reports anymore. I think the police and majority of the public really dont care what happens in the poorer neighborhoods, so you rarerly hear about shootings n such on the news unless someone totally innocent is involved. These kids in gangs are shooting at each other everyday, no one cares unless someone innocent is hurt.

    That's very true
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  • largenutz wrote:One thing to keep in mind is the majority of gang violence is not something the media reports anymore. I think the police and majority of the public really dont care what happens in the poorer neighborhoods, so you rarerly hear about shootings n such on the news unless someone totally innocent is involved. These kids in gangs are shooting at each other everyday, no one cares unless someone innocent is hurt.


    I know I don't care about poor areas, or the rich ones. Just the one I live in. If we reported about every gang violence then the news would go 24 hrs a day with it. For my job I have been in some sketchy places around king county. And I have no pitty for people who know right from wrong and choose wrong. I only begin to care when it is the innocent because their life matters, they didn't make the choice to be in that situation. On a side note I'm all for drug testing welfare participants. Cut down on gang cash flow.
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  • I hear you^^ The point I was trying to make, in response to comments about dangerous areas in & around Seattle, was that there is a lot of violence happening all around,that general public doesnt know about. Unless you are in that life or know someone who is, you really dont know how dangerous certain areas can be.
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  • It's crazy, but I felt safer in most of the areas here in Washington that most would consider 'sketchy' or 'ghetto'
    than I did in the 2 cities/towns I visited in Arizona (Scottsdale, Chandler, Mesa? And I avoid the Eastside (Bellevue/Kirkland/Mill Creek)
    at all costs. I have gotten pulled over in each of those cities at least twice over the past half decade.
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  • hgwellz12 wrote:It's crazy, but I felt safer in most of the areas here in Washington that most would consider 'sketchy' or 'ghetto'
    than I did in the 2 cities/towns I visited in Arizona (Scottsdale, Chandler, Mesa? And I avoid the Eastside (Bellevue/Kirkland/Mill Creek)
    at all costs. I have gotten pulled over in each of those cities at least twice over the past half decade.


    Kirkland/Bellevue police will pull over anybody not driving properly. You must have been doing something wrong.
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  • I ALWAYS CONSCIOUSLY drive EXTREMELY proper in those areas. And I don't drink and drive.
    Each time it's always the same story "Sir, I noticed you sat for a while after the light turned green (or some other bs reason). You have license, registration, and insurance for this car?" and after I provide docs and they run my info, it's "ok, just be safe and have a nice night!"... no ticket of course because I broke no laws... Except driving an expensive car. Now I let my wife drive if I need to go to those areas if possible. She NEVER gets pulled over in the ZR.
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  • hgwellz12 wrote:It's crazy, but I felt safer in most of the areas here in Washington that most would consider 'sketchy' or 'ghetto'
    than I did in the 2 cities/towns I visited in Arizona (Scottsdale, Chandler, Mesa? And I avoid the Eastside (Bellevue/Kirkland/Mill Creek)
    at all costs. I have gotten pulled over in each of those cities at least twice over the past half decade.

    LOL! Can I decipher what youre saying without sounding racist? Because Im the same way, basically I feel safer in more culturally diverse areas rather than predominately caucausian upper middle class areas.
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  • hgwellz12 wrote:I ALWAYS CONSCIOUSLY drive EXTREMELY proper in those areas. And I don't drink and drive.
    Each time it's always the same story "Sir, I noticed you sat for a while after the light turned green (or some other bs reason). You have license, registration, and insurance for this car?" and after I provide docs and they run my info, it's "ok, just be safe and have a nice night!"... no ticket of course because I broke no laws... Except driving an expensive car. Now I let my wife drive if I need to go to those areas if possible. She NEVER gets pulled over in the ZR.


    Wait... you were pulled over in Bellevue BECAUSE you drove an expensive car? Expensive cars are the norm for the area.
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  • Not sure what else to attribute it to. No tickets neither time. Just ran my license and told me to have a nice day /evening.
    My wife is white btw. Im black. And im sure there are those that think "oh God, not the race card" but again, to me it just seems like they felt they needed to 'check me out'... again, not really sure what else to attribute it to.
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  • largenutz wrote:
    hgwellz12 wrote:It's crazy, but I felt safer in most of the areas here in Washington that most would consider 'sketchy' or 'ghetto'
    than I did in the 2 cities/towns I visited in Arizona (Scottsdale, Chandler, Mesa? And I avoid the Eastside (Bellevue/Kirkland/Mill Creek)
    at all costs. I have gotten pulled over in each of those cities at least twice over the past half decade.

    LOL! Can I decipher what youre saying without sounding racist? Because Im the same way, basically I feel safer in more culturally diverse areas rather than predominately caucausian upper middle class areas.


    Doesn't sound racist to me in the least.
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  • -The Glove- wrote:
    largenutz wrote:One thing to keep in mind is the majority of gang violence is not something the media reports anymore. I think the police and majority of the public really dont care what happens in the poorer neighborhoods, so you rarerly hear about shootings n such on the news unless someone totally innocent is involved. These kids in gangs are shooting at each other everyday, no one cares unless someone innocent is hurt.

    That's very true


    No it's not!

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  • I dont get it^^
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    -The Glove- wrote:
    largenutz wrote:One thing to keep in mind is the majority of gang violence is not something the media reports anymore. I think the police and majority of the public really dont care what happens in the poorer neighborhoods, so you rarerly hear about shootings n such on the news unless someone totally innocent is involved. These kids in gangs are shooting at each other everyday, no one cares unless someone innocent is hurt.

    That's very true


    No it's not!

    *Is listening to radio news in the background, hears about a gang shooting in Tacoma and doesn't bat an eye, then a breaking news report comes on about a young white woman that was allegedly groped while walking along the street in downtown Seattle--OH MY GOD, CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD AND ALERT THE PRESIDENT*

    Why should anyone want care about the gang violence. If they want to gang bang and kill each other, let em. It doesn't have to be about a white woman it has to do with a victim that's when we care, and should care. White, black, Asian, or Mexican gang doesn't matter all low life's. White, black, Asian, or Mexican vitcim are all the same an innocent victim at the wrong place wrong time.
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
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  • I wanna move back to Seattle< I hope its cool as I remember It>
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:14 pm
  • I don't, 425; let 'em kill each other off.
    Rams bet status: honored. Bradford still sucks.
    RedAlice is right.
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:18 pm
  • CodeWarrior wrote:
    hgwellz12 wrote:I ALWAYS CONSCIOUSLY drive EXTREMELY proper in those areas. And I don't drink and drive.
    Each time it's always the same story "Sir, I noticed you sat for a while after the light turned green (or some other bs reason). You have license, registration, and insurance for this car?" and after I provide docs and they run my info, it's "ok, just be safe and have a nice night!"... no ticket of course because I broke no laws... Except driving an expensive car. Now I let my wife drive if I need to go to those areas if possible. She NEVER gets pulled over in the ZR.


    Wait... you were pulled over in Bellevue BECAUSE you drove an expensive car? Expensive cars are the norm for the area.

    Seriously. Anywhere on the eastside BMWs/Audis are the Honda Civics of where im from (bremerton).
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
Sat Jun 29, 2013 12:55 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    -The Glove- wrote:
    largenutz wrote:One thing to keep in mind is the majority of gang violence is not something the media reports anymore. I think the police and majority of the public really dont care what happens in the poorer neighborhoods, so you rarerly hear about shootings n such on the news unless someone totally innocent is involved. These kids in gangs are shooting at each other everyday, no one cares unless someone innocent is hurt.

    That's very true


    No it's not!

    *Is listening to radio news in the background, hears about a gang shooting in Tacoma and doesn't bat an eye, then a breaking news report comes on about a young white woman that was allegedly groped while walking along the street in downtown Seattle--OH MY GOD, CALL THE NATIONAL GUARD AND ALERT THE PRESIDENT*


    Back in I think it was 06 they called in the National Guard in Philly because of the the rate and magnitude of the street violence that was happen on a daily basis.
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  • On the bright side,

    Jerramy Stevens seems like less of douche.
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Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:08 am
  • BigBay49 wrote:Hey I stole this from somebody on the 49er forum but thought you might get a chuckle out of it if you haven't already seen it.

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    lol

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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:27 am
  • Thats so frieken funny.....lol....
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  • ...
    "I don't know what you're talking about." GT
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:00 pm
  • No idea on pics.
    Los Angeles Rams' fan who lives in San Diego.
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  • LOL...The new Madden cover:

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Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:02 am
  • lol
    poop
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Re: Aaron Hernandez taken away in cuffs...
Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:41 am
  • The Madden curse continues..lol
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  • "Go in a tight end, come out a wide receiver" / "don't drop the soap" etc. etc. etc.

    I know these are "just jokes" -- but I just wanted to say that it's pretty messed up that we all seem to accept that rape will be a part of someone's punishment in this country. Talk about cruel and unusual...
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  • Well it is cruel and unusual to execute somebody also so I guess it's pretty fair if he is actually convicted.
    43-8...it's all about that action boss....
    next man up.
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