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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:25 pm
  • hawker84 wrote:
    You can point to the very small minority who don't like Sherman, but most will continue to not care what he does because he is a great player and a Seahawk
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    never said we all don't like him.. We all love him as a player and the person he truly is.. there is some that does not care for all the talk..

    Far as Carroll is concerned, i can't speak for anyone else, but i could care less what he did in college, it's all about what he's doing for my Seahawks..


    Yes, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you here. Obviously there isn't going to be unanimous love for either Sherman or Kaepernick's personalities. But I think by and large we can both say they're well liked by each fanbase.

    The Carroll point was just to point out that he, like Kaepernick, kind of has that "goober" factor as was pointed out earlier. Doesn't really bother many though as long as he is your goober.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:17 pm
  • I'd much rather have Kaep's antics (if you even wanna call em that) over Sherm's. Kaep is a classy guy that likes to party...so what?
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:39 pm
  • Yeah, Sherman has done so many horrible things since he's come into the league. I can't even begin to catalogue them all...
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:47 pm
  • bubbrubb wrote:I'd much rather have Kaep's antics (if you even wanna call em that) over Sherm's. Kaep is a classy guy that likes to party...so what?


    Yeah, someone setting up charities and pushing youth to realize and achieve their goals is really disappointing.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:54 pm
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    bubbrubb wrote:I'd much rather have Kaep's antics (if you even wanna call em that) over Sherm's. Kaep is a classy guy that likes to party...so what?


    Yeah, someone setting up charities and pushing youth to realize and achieve their goals is really disappointing.



    Im pretty sure most NFL players do that stuff. He looked like a punk on Bayless's show....nota good example when it comes to on the field. Dont be mad.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:02 pm
  • heyu123 wrote:Sure Kaepernick's not Russell Wilson in demeanor, but he's pretty harmless overall. Not like he trashes the Seahawks organization like Sherman trashes Harbaugh.



    Yes but don't forget that Sherman's beef with Harbaugh IS personal, from their Stanford days when Harbaugh screwed him as a WR and dismissed him as a CB. It's bigger than running your mouth about a divisional opponent.

    Both he and Baldwin hate Harbaugh from their Stanford days-grist for the mill in our argument that when your team starts to lose the meltdown will make Singletary's time there look quiet and quaint in comparison.

    But that's a different argument for a different time.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:11 pm
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    heyu123 wrote:Sure Kaepernick's not Russell Wilson in demeanor, but he's pretty harmless overall. Not like he trashes the Seahawks organization like Sherman trashes Harbaugh.



    Yes but don't forget that Sherman's beef with Harbaugh IS personal, from their Stanford days when Harbaugh screwed him as a WR and dismissed him as a CB. It's bigger than running your mouth about a divisional opponent.

    Both he and Baldwin hate Harbaugh from their Stanford days-grist for the mill in our argument that when your team starts to lose the meltdown will make Singletary's time there look quiet and quaint in comparison.

    But that's a different argument for a different time.


    I do get that for Sherman and Baldwin there's some personal stuff there. Though I believe both are quick to forget it was Harbaugh who helped them to begin with. Sherman was not highly regarded coming out of HS, he was only a 3 star prospect by scout.com with offers from Nevada and Mississippi St. Without Harbaugh later moving him to CB, he is not where he is today. I think he's quick to forget that, it's not like he was getting offered by USC, Alabama or Texas. Baldwin had even less interest in him coming out of HS, no major conference team even wanted him or offered.


    It seems kind of over the line to me to be so mad at Harbaugh. It's OK to hold a grudge of some sort, but to be so public is odd.



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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:23 pm
  • I imagine if Kaep was a Seahawk... :pukeface: ....then the comments would go something like this:

    "Kaepernick's swagger is awesome!"

    "He has the confidence of a seasoned vet!"

    "He doesn't care about any negative opinions and does whatever it takes to win!

    "He has the strongest arms of any QB...I would showcase them in the endzone too!"

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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:26 pm
  • bubbrubb wrote:
    JOz56 wrote:
    bubbrubb wrote:I'd much rather have Kaep's antics (if you even wanna call em that) over Sherm's. Kaep is a classy guy that likes to party...so what?


    Yeah, someone setting up charities and pushing youth to realize and achieve their goals is really disappointing.



    Im pretty sure most NFL players do that stuff. He looked like a punk on Bayless's show....nota good example when it comes to on the field. Dont be mad.


    And right before the interview Skip was saying what a punk Sherman was, how he was nothing and that he (being Skip) was going to put him in his place. That obviously couldn't have been the cause to any sort of agitation. Plus it lead to one of the greatest terms ever. And yeah, most NFL players may have charities, but that doesn't somehow diminish what the man does in the community. And I ain't mad, just pointing out the ridiculousness. :th2thumbs:

    NinerLifer, of course that's what it would be. That is fandom in general. You guys would absolutely hate him if he was a Hawk :lol:
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:54 pm
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:03 pm
  • bubbrubb wrote:
    JOz56 wrote:
    bubbrubb wrote:I'd much rather have Kaep's antics (if you even wanna call em that) over Sherm's. Kaep is a classy guy that likes to party...so what?


    Yeah, someone setting up charities and pushing youth to realize and achieve their goals is really disappointing.



    Im pretty sure most NFL players do that stuff. He looked like a punk on Bayless's show....nota good example when it comes to on the field. Dont be mad.

    He flat out owned Kraeper in December.... Don't be mad!
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:09 pm
  • heyu123 wrote:Well, considering everyone here loves Sherman I'm sure they'd love Kaepernick too.

    the only reason he is hated here is obviously because he is a Niner. If he was a Hawk he'd be defended and loved.


    Speak for yourself. He has talent. Nobody is questioning that. But I would clearly be more of a fan of RW than Kaep if Kaep was QB for the hawks. Wearing other teams hats, looking "swagged" out at the ESPY's, posing nude, and having a touchdown celebration in which you kiss your biceps has nothing to do with what team he plays for. He's immature. That's obvious.

    And I love Sherman but I thought it was a big mistake going on First Take. I'm not going to say it was a great idea for him to do that just because he plays for the hawks. That's irrelevant.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:17 pm
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:23 pm
  • I actually like Kaeperstank. I would enjoy him as the QB of the Hawks, his antics are very low level and harmless.

    I can't say I would defend him, but I would be fine with him as the QB. I'm not saying I would take him over RW, not even close, but I think the Hawks would have been close to the same team with Kaeperstank under center.

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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:45 pm
  • heyu123 wrote:
    Trenchbroom wrote:
    heyu123 wrote:Sure Kaepernick's not Russell Wilson in demeanor, but he's pretty harmless overall. Not like he trashes the Seahawks organization like Sherman trashes Harbaugh.



    Yes but don't forget that Sherman's beef with Harbaugh IS personal, from their Stanford days when Harbaugh screwed him as a WR and dismissed him as a CB. It's bigger than running your mouth about a divisional opponent.

    Both he and Baldwin hate Harbaugh from their Stanford days-grist for the mill in our argument that when your team starts to lose the meltdown will make Singletary's time there look quiet and quaint in comparison.

    But that's a different argument for a different time.


    I do get that for Sherman and Baldwin there's some personal stuff there. Though I believe both are quick to forget it was Harbaugh who gave them a great opportunity to begin with. Sherman was not highly regarded coming out of HS, he was only a 3 star prospect by scout.com with offers from Nevada and Mississippi St. Without Harbaugh giving him a scholly and later moving him to CB, he is not where he is today. I think he's quick to forget that, it's not like he was getting offered by USC, Alabama or Texas. Baldwin had even less interest in him coming out of HS, no major conference team other than Harbaugh even wanted him or offered.


    It seems kind of over the line to me to be so mad at Harbaugh. It's OK to hold a grudge of some sort, but to be so public is odd.

    You really are a dumbshit, aren't you? All you really know is there is a grudge. The rest you just wild ass guessed.
    Sherman was recruited to Stanford in 2005, Jim started coaching Stanford in 2007. He didn't "scholly" Baldwin either.
    Also, the Cardinals were thin at Corner, Richard is the one who asked to move to defense. Harbs and him didn't get on so well anyway, Harbs was fine with it.

    You could have had them both with a 4th and a 7th. Same draft you took Taylor Mays.

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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:05 pm
  • Scottemojo wrote:You really are a dumbshit, aren't you? All you really know is there is a grudge. The rest you just wild ass guessed.
    Sherman was recruited to Stanford in 2005, Jim started coaching Stanford in 2007. He didn't "scholly" Baldwin either.
    Also, the Cardinals were thin at Corner, Richard is the one who asked to move to defense. Harbs and him didn't get on so well anyway, Harbs was fine with it.

    You could have had them both with a 4th and a 7th. Same draft you took Taylor Mays.

    Facts Jack. Check your shit.


    Ha, you are correct. I edited my post.

    However, the point still remains. Neither Sherman nor Baldwin were any good coming out of HS. they got offers from NOBODY. I find it hard to believe Harbaugh and his staff didn't do way more good for their careers than bad.

    You think Sherman still makes the NFL with Walt Harris as his coach? No way. Therefore, his public bashing of Harbaugh is completely misplaced. And due to that, like I said, it's way more warranted for Niner fans to hate Sherman than Seahawk fans to hate Kaepernick, whose only fault is maybe he's "annoying."
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:36 pm
  • kearly wrote:IIRC, Kaepernick was the only QB to have consensus approval in Seattle's war room the year he was drafted. Dalton was graded a bit higher by JS, but Dalton had his detractors. It's pretty neat to think about it- if Seattle had succeeded in trading down a few spots and things had fallen a certain way, it's very possible that Kaepernick could be our QB right now, and Wilson would probably be in Philly with Andy Reid who'd probably have kept his job. And we'd all be saying "what ifs."

    If we had Kaepernick I'd be fine with it. That said, I'm not sure Kaepernick would work nearly as well for Pete. Pete's Mr. conservative on offense- he really does need a veteran/smarts type QB to lead his offense. Harbaugh is much more daring and much better at tuning an offense for his QB. Luckily for us, Wilson is an elite talent that happens to fit Carroll's tendencies like a glove. Kaepernick wouldn't. I still think Kaepernick would be decent for us, but he'd probably end up more like Josh Freeman or Tarvaris Jackson than what he's become in SF.


    Interesting. I like the perspective. People think that a player will go anywhere, and be that same player, but I think you're right Kearly. It's possible that Kaepernick wouldn't have developed as well here with Pete.

    Then again, he sat for a year behind Alex Smith, and from all accounts, he's a model team mate and leader. He wasn't douchy at Nevada at all, and yes the bicep kissing thing would be annoying if he were playing for us. I thought he would be good after I watched him at Nevada, and I would've been fine with us drafting him.

    I'm still liking Russell Wilson a ton though. His intangibles are freaking insane.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:40 pm
  • heyu123 wrote:
    Scottemojo wrote:You really are a dumbshit, aren't you? All you really know is there is a grudge. The rest you just wild ass guessed.
    Sherman was recruited to Stanford in 2005, Jim started coaching Stanford in 2007. He didn't "scholly" Baldwin either.
    Also, the Cardinals were thin at Corner, Richard is the one who asked to move to defense. Harbs and him didn't get on so well anyway, Harbs was fine with it.

    You could have had them both with a 4th and a 7th. Same draft you took Taylor Mays.

    Facts Jack. Check your shit.


    Ha, you are correct. I edited my post.

    However, the point still remains. Neither Sherman nor Baldwin were any good coming out of HS. they got offers from NOBODY. I find it hard to believe Harbaugh and his staff didn't do way more good for their careers than bad.

    You think Sherman still makes the NFL with Walt Harris as his coach? No way. Therefore, his public bashing of Harbaugh is completely misplaced. And due to that, like I said, it's way more warranted for Niner fans to hate Sherman than Seahawk fans to hate Kaepernick, whose only fault is maybe he's "annoying."

    He isn't annoying, he is a douchebag. Sherman is annoying. Sherman was not highly recruited, but partly because his goddawful high school nearly lost accredidation.

    Here is what is scary about Sherman: He is still learning to play corner. Sherman's best years are still ahead, and he is going to be a thorn in your side for years. He was awful at the senior bowl, but our staff did what they do and spotted the talent. I think Harbs is a better coach, I think Pete is awesome at spotting talent. So no, there is no guarantee Sherman would have missed the NFL if Harris had stayed. See: Brandon Browner, Sweezy. Looking under rocks and switching positions based on body type and skill set is what the Hawks do best.

    As for Baldwin, he was a priority UDFA for Seattle. He has had his best games vs the Niners, a fact I don't expect to change. It is personal for him, I think he feels Harbs made him some promises that were not kept.

    Lets face facts. Your coach is a great offensive mind, but an A-hole who truly puckers up when he loses without grace. Your quarterback is a smart guy who sounds dumb and acts dumber, while repping the Jersey shore. You have a great team with the marketability of herpes. Your coach thinks californians are all pussies (he basically said so in a post season presser), our coach is a zen mofo and our QB is 2nd coming of joe cool (montana). On the field, evenly matched. Off the field, no contest. Go Hawks.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:56 pm
  • There's no arguing Sherman isn't going to be a pain. However, someone had to teach him in college how to play corner. Harbaugh and his staff should get some props there instead of being trashed by Sherman, but that's just my opinion. I've never heard Sherman say anything positive about his college coaches but I could be mistaken.

    Most of your other points I agree with, especially about the coaches. Yes Harbaugh is a whiner, but a lot of that is trying to work the refs too.

    But...I can't for the life of me understand how you can call Kaep a douche but not Sherman. They either both are or aren't. Kaep doesn't go out of his way to talk about opponents or people in the media, like I said he is harmless.

    But then again you're obviously bias about Kaepernick, just as I am Sherman. So there's nothing that will change your thoughts.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 8:46 pm
  • heyu123 wrote:There's no arguing Sherman isn't going to be a pain. However, someone had to teach him in college how to play corner. Harbaugh and his staff should get some props there instead of being trashed by Sherman, but that's just my opinion. I've never heard Sherman say anything positive about his college coaches but I could be mistaken.

    Most of your other points I agree with, especially about the coaches. Yes Harbaugh is a whiner, but a lot of that is trying to work the refs too.

    But...I can't for the life of me understand how you can call Kaep a douche but not Sherman. They either both are or aren't. Kaep doesn't go out of his way to talk about opponents or people in the media, like I said he is harmless.

    But then again you're obviously bias about Kaepernick, just as I am Sherman. So there's nothing that will change your thoughts.

    Do you know what a douchebag is?

    Sherman is a dick. And he is annoying. However, he is an eloquent and cool sumbitch. He stirs the NFL pot. He also owns Kaepernick so far.
    Kaep is a douche. He shits on his own fan base when they suggest he should show some team loyalty. He trademarked a douche move. He wears sunglasses inside, wears other teams gear, and interviews like a savant after losses. WWJD? definitely not kiss his arm, pose nude, and get skeezers to suck booze out of his navel (Hey baby, you missed a spot of peach schnapps right there by my scriptures). Douchebag. Did I mention celebrate the SB loss with a new Tat? On the field, awesome. Off it, embarrassing.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:07 pm
  • JOz56 wrote:And right before the interview Skip was saying what a punk Sherman was, how he was nothing and that he (being Skip) was going to put him in his place. That obviously couldn't have been the cause to any sort of agitation. Plus it lead to one of the greatest terms ever. And yeah, most NFL players may have charities, but that doesn't somehow diminish what the man does in the community. And I ain't mad, just pointing out the ridiculousness. :th2thumbs:

    NinerLifer, of course that's what it would be. That is fandom in general. You guys would absolutely hate him if he was a Hawk :lol:


    Why would he care what Bayless says? He looked like a 10yr old having a temper tantrum because Bayless thought he was a punk.... Krapperdink's attitude > Sherms attitude. Just my opinion.
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Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:56 pm
  • NinerLifer wrote:I imagine if Kaep was a Seahawk... :pukeface:


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Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:27 am
  • heyu123 wrote:Well, considering everyone here loves Sherman I'm sure they'd love Kaepernick too.

    the only reason he is hated here is obviously because he is a Niner. If he was a Hawk he'd be defended and loved.

    This is true. There is a russell wilson clone on the 49ers. His name is BJ daniels and I'm pretty sure he'll be the 3rd QB. He'll be a big fan favorite there if or when Kaepernick doesnt do well.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:42 am
  • heyu123 wrote:Even if Russell Wilson played for the 49ers? I highly doubt it

    I think Russell is a great talent. If he was with the 49ers, he'd probably be much more advanced than he is with the seahawks. Nothing against Darrell Bevell or Carl Smith. But I think a former NFL QB who's played a the highest level for 14+ years coaching him would make Russell a much better QB than he is right now. But I''m mindful of the fact that he's a hell of a QB already right now.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:59 am
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    heyu123 wrote:Well, considering everyone here loves Sherman I'm sure they'd love Kaepernick too.

    the only reason he is hated here is obviously because he is a Niner. If he was a Hawk he'd be defended and loved.

    This is true. There is a russell wilson clone on the 49ers. His name is BJ daniels and I'm pretty sure he'll be the 3rd QB. He'll be a big fan favorite there if or when Kaepernick doesnt do well.


    I like Daniels and all, but to call him a Russell Wilson clone is a bit much.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:05 am
  • HawksFTW wrote:I like Daniels and all, but to call him a Russell Wilson clone is a bit much.


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Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:20 am
  • Scottemojo wrote:
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    Trenchbroom wrote:Sure Kaepernick's not Russell Wilson in demeanor, but he's pretty harmless overall. Not like he trashes the Seahawks organization like Sherman trashes Harbaugh.


    Yes but don't forget that Sherman's beef with Harbaugh IS personal, from their Stanford days when Harbaugh screwed him as a WR and dismissed him as a CB. It's bigger than running your mouth about a divisional opponent.

    Both he and Baldwin hate Harbaugh from their Stanford days-grist for the mill in our argument that when your team starts to lose the meltdown will make Singletary's time there look quiet and quaint in comparison.

    But that's a different argument for a different time.


    I do get that for Sherman and Baldwin there's some personal stuff there. Though I believe both are quick to forget it was Harbaugh who gave them a great opportunity to begin with. Sherman was not highly regarded coming out of HS, he was only a 3 star prospect by scout.com with offers from Nevada and Mississippi St. Without Harbaugh giving him a scholly and later moving him to CB, he is not where he is today. I think he's quick to forget that, it's not like he was getting offered by USC, Alabama or Texas. Baldwin had even less interest in him coming out of HS, no major conference team other than Harbaugh even wanted him or offered.


    It seems kind of over the line to me to be so mad at Harbaugh. It's OK to hold a grudge of some sort, but to be so public is odd.

    You really are a dumbshit, aren't you? All you really know is there is a grudge. The rest you just wild ass guessed.
    Sherman was recruited to Stanford in 2005, Jim started coaching Stanford in 2007. He didn't "scholly" Baldwin either.
    Also, the Cardinals were thin at Corner, Richard is the one who asked to move to defense. Harbs and him didn't get on so well anyway, Harbs was fine with it.

    You could have had them both with a 4th and a 7th. Same draft you took Taylor Mays.

    Facts Jack. Check your shit.

    That's some ownage right there! :th2thumbs:
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:55 am
  • When Keap was drafted by SF, I thought the Hawks missed an opportunity, until Wilson arrived. No way I would rather have Keap over Wilson now, this season will pan out those reasons why.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:29 pm
  • Giedi wrote:
    heyu123 wrote:Even if Russell Wilson played for the 49ers? I highly doubt it

    I think Russell is a great talent. If he was with the 49ers, he'd probably be much more advanced than he is with the seahawks. Nothing against Darrell Bevell or Carl Smith. But I think a former NFL QB who's played a the highest level for 14+ years coaching him would make Russell a much better QB than he is right now. But I''m mindful of the fact that he's a hell of a QB already right now.


    When did Harbag ever play at the highest level? He was in the NFL alright, but his play was at the most average level the whole time, while his douchebaggery just grew and grew. And if RW would be so much more advanced than he is now, how is it that The Crappernik took a year and a half to be not quite as good or advanced?
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:42 pm
  • GeekHawk wrote:
    Giedi wrote:
    heyu123 wrote:Even if Russell Wilson played for the 49ers? I highly doubt it

    I think Russell is a great talent. If he was with the 49ers, he'd probably be much more advanced than he is with the seahawks. Nothing against Darrell Bevell or Carl Smith. But I think a former NFL QB who's played a the highest level for 14+ years coaching him would make Russell a much better QB than he is right now. But I''m mindful of the fact that he's a hell of a QB already right now.


    When did Harbag ever play at the highest level? He was in the NFL alright, but his play was at the most average level the whole time, while his douchebaggery just grew and grew. And if RW would be so much more advanced than he is now, how is it that The Crappernik took a year and a half to be not quite as good or advanced?


    Well, not that I necessarily agree RW would be more advanced. But, there is no level higher than the NFL so he is technically correct. He didn't say he was elite or anything, just that he played.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:41 pm
  • Giedi wrote:There is a russell wilson clone on the 49ers.

    Thanks for the laugh.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:53 pm
  • GeekHawk wrote:
    Giedi wrote:
    heyu123 wrote:Even if Russell Wilson played for the 49ers? I highly doubt it

    I think Russell is a great talent. If he was with the 49ers, he'd probably be much more advanced than he is with the seahawks. Nothing against Darrell Bevell or Carl Smith. But I think a former NFL QB who's played a the highest level for 14+ years coaching him would make Russell a much better QB than he is right now. But I''m mindful of the fact that he's a hell of a QB already right now.


    When did Harbag ever play at the highest level? He was in the NFL alright, but his play was at the most average level the whole time, while his douchebaggery just grew and grew. And if RW would be so much more advanced than he is now, how is it that The Crappernik took a year and a half to be not quite as good or advanced?


    His NFL accolades as a player include a Pro Bowl nomination, NFL Comeback Player of the Year, runner up in the NFL MVP (1995). He is also in the Colts' Ring of Honor and has the second highest completions for the Bears as well, behind Jay Cutler. 14+ seasons too. Would've played in the Super Bowl too, if not for a dropped Hail Mary pass.

    Maybe not the HIGHEST level, but to say it was at the "most average level" the whole time shows your bias against the Niners and Harbaugh. I would consider his career to be above average when compared against all the other NFL players in the league at the time.

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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:34 pm
  • So what you're saying, Alka, is that Matt Hasselbeck's a better QB than Jim Harbaugh ever was? Hasselbeck went to the Pro Bowl 3x and did play in a Super Bowl, plus he has a better career QB rating, way more passing yards, a better TD-int ratio, and a better completion percentage?

    Just sayin', before you go propping up Harbaugh as a player too much.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:39 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:So what you're saying, Alka, is that Matt Hasselbeck's a better QB than Jim Harbaugh ever was? Hasselbeck went to the Pro Bowl 3x and did play in a Super Bowl, plus he has a better career QB rating, way more passing yards, a better TD-int ratio, and a better completion percentage?

    Just sayin', before you go propping up Harbaugh as a player too much.


    Sure. I always felt Hasselbeck never got the recognition he deserved for how good of a player he was. Consumate professional as well.

    If Luck ever gets injured, Indy has a decent stop gap at QB to continue playing at a high level.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:40 pm
  • Whoa. A reasonable and intelligent response. Alright, I'm impressed; and I admit I wasn't expecting as much.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:47 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:Whoa. A reasonable and intelligent response. Alright, I'm impressed; and I admit I wasn't expecting as much.


    Not all Niner fans are rude and ignorant, contrary to popular belief ;)
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:53 pm
  • Alkasquawlik wrote:Not all Niner fans are rude and ignorant, contrary to popular belief ;)


    I know. :) Just used to that being the norm for 'em around here, haha. You should have seen how many 49ers fans got banned within days of being approved during the season last year around here...It was astronomical.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:56 pm
  • I saw, and I can imagine how irritating it is/was. 5 SUPER BOWLS!!!!! Almost as bad as 42-13!!! that I see on every social media outlet ha.

    I've lurked all year, figuring out who the personalities are and what not, before starting to jump into the fray.

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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:00 pm
  • I freely admit the 42-13 thing is stupid, and I've asked several times for people to stop saying it around here, but it didn't help much at the time. At least it's not mentioned too much, anymore.

    Also, if you find it hard to earn credibility here, don't take it personally. We literally had two 49ers fans on here for years, and that's it. Then, Harbaugh shows up in San Francisco, and now the place is filled with 49ers fans. You can guess what kind of impression that leaves on us, many of which have been here for a long time (this forum predates the oldest registration dates you see by years, but on another URL, by the way) and were sitting here talking about how much things sucked when we went 4-12 in the last year of Holmgren's tenure, and 5-11 the next with Mora, etc.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:17 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:
    Also, if you find it hard to earn credibility here, don't take it personally. We literally had two 49ers fans on here for years, and that's it. Then, Harbaugh shows up in San Francisco, and now the place is filled with 49ers fans. You can guess what kind of impression that leaves on us, many of which have been here for a long time (this forum predates the oldest registration dates you see by years, but on another URL, by the way) and were sitting here talking about how much things sucked when we went 4-12 in the last year of Holmgren's tenure, and 5-11 the next with Mora, etc.


    No worries, I've been on forums enough to know not to take things personally and to have a sense of humor, it's just the internet. Plus, I know I'm in enemy territory, so I've got to tread lightly. I've seen the threads that people have made about Marvin49 and whatnot haha.

    I gotta say that the big upswing for both the Niners and Seahawks in recent years have brought out a bunch of irrational homers on both sides that make certain discussions embarrassing/irritating. Such is the case when the teams are winning, so I'll deal with it. Better than sucking and being the laughingstock of the league.

    I actually venture into this forum more so than the webzone. I know a lot of posters here always berate certain Niner fans, and ask them "why are you here on another team's forum blah blah blah", and the same thing happens over on the WZ. It actually gets tiresome reading the same fan-boy/homeristic posts in the webzone, especially during the awful offseason, and it's nice to get a different perspective on things from another view point. Plus, I'm an NFL fan in general, so I like to know what's going on with other teams, especially a heavyweight in my team's division. Helps my fantasy knowledge as well haha. Although I gotta say, I read some of the posts that some people make here and it makes me rage :lol:
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:22 pm
  • I don't get the automatic hate for enemy fans coming here, either. If you come to hate an enemy poster because of things they've been saying or whatever, that's different; but seeing a non-Seahawks fan here and ragging on them to leave without having seen even one post by them, that's just...I don't get it.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:35 pm
  • Agreed.

    Anyways, thanks for the warm welcome. I'm sure it wasn't what either of us were expecting at first haha.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:29 pm
  • bubbrubb wrote:I'd much rather have Kaep's antics (if you even wanna call em that) over Sherm's. Kaep is a classy guy that likes to party...so what?


    The problem is the position and the importance of the payer. I like Sherman and don't always like his talking but he is a corner back and no matter how good, the team could survive without him. He is also a team leader and backs his mouth up so it is easier to accept but if he were to start to struggle and kept talking, he would lose the fans real quick.

    Kaep is the QB and suppose to be the top level team leader and is constantly doing things that make him look immature. His players are even stepping in and counseling him like you would a young player on the team not like you should expect from the guy who is suppose to be the absolute leader and field general.

    If he were our QB I would love his highlight reel but would be very worried about his future because the guy is giving reasons to question if he is mature enough for the game and if he continues with those antic's he will slowly lose the support of his team mates, especially if he struggles at all.

    Point though is if my QB was doing the things Kaep is it would bug me one hell of alot more than a CB talking some trash.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:26 pm
  • Alkasquawlik wrote:His NFL accolades as a player include a Pro Bowl nomination, NFL Comeback Player of the Year, runner up in the NFL MVP (1995). He is also in the Colts' Ring of Honor and has the second highest completions for the Bears as well, behind Jay Cutler. 14+ seasons too. Would've played in the Super Bowl too, if not for a dropped Hail Mary pass.

    Maybe not the HIGHEST level, but to say it was at the "most average level" the whole time shows your bias against the Niners and Harbaugh. I would consider his career to be above average when compared against all the other NFL players in the league at the time.

    Shrug.


    You misread the emphasis that doesn't come through on the interwebz. Not the "most average level", but "At the most, average..." It's just that a comma wouldn't work in my sentence as written. I don't think I'b brag about being second to Cutler in just about anything, myself. That's like being slightly worse than Romo.
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Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:29 pm
  • RolandDeschain wrote:I don't get the automatic hate for enemy fans coming here, either. If you come to hate an enemy poster because of things they've been saying or whatever, that's different; but seeing a non-Seahawks fan here and ragging on them to leave without having seen even one post by them, that's just...I don't get it.


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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:23 pm
  • HawksFTW wrote:
    Giedi wrote:
    heyu123 wrote:Well, considering everyone here loves Sherman I'm sure they'd love Kaepernick too.

    the only reason he is hated here is obviously because he is a Niner. If he was a Hawk he'd be defended and loved.

    This is true. There is a russell wilson clone on the 49ers. His name is BJ daniels and I'm pretty sure he'll be the 3rd QB. He'll be a big fan favorite there if or when Kaepernick doesnt do well.


    I like Daniels and all, but to call him a Russell Wilson clone is a bit much.

    Height, weight, very good speed (not as good as Russell) and I haven't seen his arm yet, but on paper (i.e. what journalists have said) it's pretty strong. Russell is going to be very productive this year if you guy's keep Harvin healthy and the rest of the young WR's and TE's you have continue to improve.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:29 pm
  • GeekHawk wrote:
    Giedi wrote:
    heyu123 wrote:Even if Russell Wilson played for the 49ers? I highly doubt it

    I think Russell is a great talent. If he was with the 49ers, he'd probably be much more advanced than he is with the seahawks. Nothing against Darrell Bevell or Carl Smith. But I think a former NFL QB who's played a the highest level for 14+ years coaching him would make Russell a much better QB than he is right now. But I''m mindful of the fact that he's a hell of a QB already right now.


    When did Harbag ever play at the highest level? He was in the NFL alright, but his play was at the most average level the whole time, while his douchebaggery just grew and grew. And if RW would be so much more advanced than he is now, how is it that The Crappernik took a year and a half to be not quite as good or advanced?

    Harbs has developed some very good QB's. I think if Harbaugh had Russell as his QB, he'd have given the whole playbook to Russell at the outset instead of waiting till half the season was over before taking off the training wheels.

    As for Harbaugh the QB, 14+ years in the NFL is a ton of experience, plus all the different offensive systems he's been in will help him design a system perfectly tailored for Russell. Again, nothing against Bevell and Smith, but if he can take a journeman QB and turn him into a Conference championship QB, imagine what he could do with somebody like Russell.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:35 pm
  • Decimation wrote:
    Giedi wrote:There is a russell wilson clone on the 49ers.

    Thanks for the laugh.

    I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. Harbaugh has a lifetime winning percentage of .700+ Pete is a d@mn fine Defensive Coach, but it's a quarterback centered league now and while Pete was a pretty good defensive coach for the 49ers under Seifert and learned the ins and outs of the WCO under Seifert, his particular QB heritage isn't as rich (in my opinion) when compared to Harbaugh's pupils.

    Just an opinion. Don't string me up yet! :mrgreen: At least wait till the regular season!
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:11 pm
  • I'd rather not listen to this after a defeat.



    Of course, given the choice of Kaepernick over a bunch of other prospective starters like Matt Flynn or Brandon Weeden - and I'd go for Kaep. But thankfully I/we don't have to consider that. We have a QB who lives, breathes, sleeps Seahawks football and doesn't waste his time chatting up 5/10's and wearing his pants off his arse.
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Re: Krapperdink as the Hawks QB or...
Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:24 pm
  • Giedi wrote:
    Decimation wrote:
    Giedi wrote:There is a russell wilson clone on the 49ers.

    Thanks for the laugh.

    I wouldn't laugh too hard if I were you. Harbaugh has a lifetime winning percentage of .700+ Pete is a d@mn fine Defensive Coach, but it's a quarterback centered league now and while Pete was a pretty good defensive coach for the 49ers under Seifert and learned the ins and outs of the WCO under Seifert, his particular QB heritage isn't as rich (in my opinion) when compared to Harbaugh's pupils.

    Just an opinion. Don't string me up yet! :mrgreen: At least wait till the regular season!


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